I like this guy.

I liked it because it was just so overpowered. You could mow down dozens of enemies before it takes any serious damage.
Edited by Dumb AI on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:31 PM

I'd much rather have something like a Grizzly tank (perhaps with a single cannon, as opposed to two) for that, having never been a big fan of mechs in the Halo universe (with the exception of the Cyclops, as it's more of an exoskeleton than a mech) although I suppose that, since the level will be modifiable, someone could create a variant of it in which the Mantis is either removed or replaced by something else.

aww, well u see i prefer i nice even fight, man to... well, bast^rd in this case, but the point is, i like to fight in ways that show skill through use of tactics and skill, not excessive firepower. i personally hated the mantis cause it was a hulking brute of a machine, there was no skill, and they enemy had no chance to put up an enjoyable fight. plus mechs don't belong in halo.



a bit much, but i'll take it.


Edited by greg079 on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:47 PM
Edited by greg079 on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:47 PM

I used to believe in fair fights until I tried out that thing 343 calls Spartan Ops. AI placement is a mess and it always turns into a one-sided skirmish, with dozens of merciless enemies wielding all sorts of weaponry hunting that one lone player.

If my opponents don't play by the rules, I won't play by them either. Or play at all, for that matter.

A overpowered weapon is a great way to even the odds, in case you didn't know.
Edited by Dumb AI on Jul 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM

I thought the mantis was a nice break from halo 4's heavy straightforward non-guerilla combat. The whole campaign's combat up to that point (and past that point, even til the ending cutscene) was one slugging match after another, and it got a bit boring/frustrating, making the Mantis' supreme firepower a nice change of pace (like the initial scorpion encounter in vanilla halo 1). If cmt incorporates it into the campaign in a similar fashion that makes the game more fun, then I'm all for it.



Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM

The mantis reminds me of when you get to drive the Brumack in Gears 2. You've spent so long grinding past all these enemies and encounters, fighting against things way more powerful than you, then suddenly you get on something huge and turn the tables on them.

The mantis is going to be used in a50 to secure the gravlift in some new waves after the hunters, and will be an alternative to the Grizzly in AOTCR, those are the only place's you'll find it in the first half of campaign.

Exactly how I feel whenever I come across a weapon/tool of great power.

you guys complain about every little thing put in halo one the company wasn't bungie so why didn't you expect them to put in something new to halo two its funny how higuy thinks hes some pro campaign maker when in reality lumoria was pretty terrible in terms of balance three complain some more about halo don't play it if you don't like it 4 if dont play this mod when and if it comes out if you have such a problem with it

oh I see how it is... I say 343 is bs, I get angry responses, he says something similar, he gets total love....

The Mantis is great new thing in Halo Universe and I'm all for it. After all, it's year 2552 , If a suit like MJOLNIR was possible, I see no problem for Mantis to exist.

and yet the project was limited, and suddenly everyone is a Spartan so soon

You don't wanna live on this planet because of something Higuy said? You need to get your prioritys straight

jk

I think its good to add as much new areas as possible as long as it fits, it keeps us more busy, even on replays

Much better :D

yay! now everyone, I have something to say...

This is explained in universe. Spartans up until the Spartan IV program were done in secret and often unethically. Last Spartan I died as Johnson, Cheif is the last active Spartan II, and the remaining IIs and IIIs are either dead or on Onyx. The IIs were expensive and gave a low success rate. IIIs were less expensive, had a higher success rate, but had terrible gear and more often than not were sent to die. IVs on the other hand are cheap, have a minimal augmentation failure rate, and is effective in terms of gear due to the end of the human covenant war reaping new benefits. Plus, Spartans are now public and treated more or less like roman/greek rulers: descendants of god.

THATS why there were more Spartans in H4

I disagree. Aotcr was quite a long level. Any longer and I don't think it would work out too well. I think it would be better if they just upgraded and spiced up the existing encounters.

You do realize this is a horrible design choice, right?

Hey, if you guys use the flashlight key for the sprint,camo,etc. Why not use the grenade system to implement new equipment. Like the Bubble shield. You just change the grenade type and throw a bubble shield on the ground.

How much time left to see the new trailer?

Doesn't explain why there is so few personnel on the Infinity levels in Spartan Ops.
Edited by Dumb AI on Jul 23, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Actually I think it's pretty awesome that after struggling through all those waves on foot you get a crazy vehicle to blow away infantry, banshees and phantoms desperately trying to stop you from entering the ship. Why do you think it's so terrible.




It be much better to just use the grenade system for grenades, and use our Flashlight replacement system for any type of equipment. There's no reason to sacrifice a grenade slot for equipment when we have a system in place for equipment or AA's anyway. We're going to avoid single use equipment though, AA's are just more interesting and have greater effects on the gameplay.


As far as AOTCR goes... I agree it's a pretty long and repetitive level. I've actually shortened it a bit near the end, so if you don't get to the banshees you can scale the cliff wall and get down. While I don't normally like the idea of replacing bungies encounters or removing them... we also do have the ability to replace some of those copy and pasted rooms with custom ones. Right now B40 suffers from serious effect popping, so that needs to be addressed before we start adding in new areas and the like.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jul 23, 2013 at 10:47 AM

maybe they could just add rally points AND NO MANTIS. while i definitely think it was a long level, i think rally points would make it much more bearable. although one of the things i would love, would be in the odst spv3 version, would be a firefight/repel all boarders type thing in the reactor room in a10, like what happened in halo the flood. have the odst start in the reactor with his team (or her, i'm not discriminatin') fight off some waves of covies, then the captain would request to see him on the bridge. he could either fight with his squad until the boarders were all dead, or just go up to the bridge immediately. if you'd like even more uniqueness in his story, he could show up just as chief is leaving with cortana, and be given uncle spot's core. while they wouldn't interface each other, spot could still access his suits comms to communicate. just a few thoughts guys.

I do like the idea of the anonymous ODST getting to the hanger just as Chief leaves with the others.

Actually, we've cut the playable ODST character. With the inclusion of 4 grenade types and AA's, there became so much less of a difference between the two, and it made managing our script files all the more complex.

Wait what? Odst spv3? new playable character?

PLEASE EXPLAIN!

 

I honestly think the levels should be longer, time consumption so you don't finish up so soon

We were going to release an ODST version of each map, where the player would be an ODST with different grenade types, slower speed, weaker melee, and sprint instead of VISR, along with 2 new power ups. But now all the cool things we needed another character and map for, are no longer necessary given advances in OS.

I see. Well, after Spv3, it would be awesome to work on a custom Odst campaign with the events from Halo - The flood. But the voice acting would suck.

actually, if the book Fall of Reach is taken out of canon(as bungie had done) then Ghosts of Onyx would not exist, as the spartan IIIs were created and destroyed on reach rather than the spartan IIs. subsequently, Halsey would not have been able to be on onyx since she was on reach in the game canon, and was evactuated into UNSC custody. good ol' bungie.

NOOOO!!!! I was so excited about the ODST version. :(

That can easily be fixed by retcon-ing select parts of the game and book.