
OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009
I hand-paint bumpmaps! ❤ desaturate is baad
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 12:59 PM
Msg. 4971 of 10646
They really suck when you haven't messed with anything other than a PC for years. So when you finally sit down to play Halo Reach, you find out that you now suck with a controller and can't aim. ^-^
Took a few days of practice to break back into it, embarrassing :o
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Kal825B
Joined: Jan 16, 2012
Last son of Krypt... Oh wait, i'm a clone.
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 01:14 PM
Msg. 4972 of 10646
Yes, what this man said...LOL I've been playing too much PC lately...  Well that, what i was really trying to say about the skirmishers was that. Just about all of Reach was awful canon installment, gameplay, etc.. Thats what i was trying to say through the skrimishers... Just about. This was all when i was used to my controller, before i started playing on my PC more often. Edited by Kal825B on Jul 20, 2013 at 01:24 PM
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Xiao
Joined: Nov 14, 2012
Keiichi-kun o mitsuketa.
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 01:19 PM
Msg. 4973 of 10646
Then stop putting the blame on the skirmisher and AI. The fault is for you not being entirely friendly with an Xbox controller.
As stated, the skirmisher has done it's job being a nuisance for you guys, and therefore it needs no change towards the way it acts. :)
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 01:44 PM
Msg. 4974 of 10646
Yeah I never have a problem with skirmishers in reach
I like cranking up the difficulty to legendary and fighting packs of em in firefight with the assault rifle and grenade launcher. Higher ranking skirmishers will actually try to trick you with the hologram ability from time to time. IMO It'd be cool if they could use holograms in ce to distract friendly ai and fool the player into wasting ammo. Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 01:45 PM
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 01:47 PM
Msg. 4975 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
Yeah I never have a problem with skirmishers in reach
I like cranking up the difficulty to legendary and fighting packs of em in firefight with the assault rifle and grenade launcher. Higher ranking skirmishers will actually try to trick you with the hologram ability from time to time. IMO It'd be cool if they could use holograms in ce to distract friendly ai and fool the player into wasting ammo. Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 01:45 PM That wouldn't work on me. >:D Hologram doesn't seem all that useful. It doesn't last long and AI have infinite ammo.
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 02:45 PM
Msg. 4976 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AIQuote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
Yeah I never have a problem with skirmishers in reach
I like cranking up the difficulty to legendary and fighting packs of em in firefight with the assault rifle and grenade launcher. Higher ranking skirmishers will actually try to trick you with the hologram ability from time to time. IMO It'd be cool if they could use holograms in ce to distract friendly ai and fool the player into wasting ammo. Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 01:45 PM That wouldn't work on me. >:D Hologram doesn't seem all that useful. It doesn't last long and AI have infinite ammo. but the player does, and if the hologram caused the crosshair to flash red and activate motion trackers then I'm sure there are times when it would actually fool players or if it acted like the hologram in halo 2 that actually shot at the player (the heretic leader's hologram), and moved like a real ai, but sported little health and had maybe a ten second countdown timer before it disappeared, I think it would definitely mix up the combat. Dunno if it's possible to give an ai (the hologram) a countdown timer to when they die, or have the ai dynamically spawn a hologram situationally. Maybe if the skirmisher used a weapon, such as a plasma pistol, that had a secondary trigger that spawned the hologram, and the hologram had to move forward while attacking (this way it would move without having any firing positions). Next, so the player couldn't get the weapon that spawned the hologram, the weapon would be destroyed when the skirmisher was killed and instead a destruction effect for the weapon would create a regular plasma pistol on the ground. Then you'd just set up the secondary trigger system for the actual skirmisher so it could send in the hologram to attack the player whenever it was oh, say, retreating? Figure out the timer system, and wellah! You have a hologram system. The idea behind this would be that the hologram doubles as both a personal defense system, as it could be deployed while retreating to distract the player, and a means of flushing out the player as it would run up and fire on them while they're in cover. Better than just trying to fool them into shooting it, yes? Just an idea, one I quite possibly over thought Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 02:59 PM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 03:00 PM
Msg. 4977 of 10646
I've always hated the holograms in the series, there's no plans to include them in SPV3. AFAIK no one on the team is a fan of them.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 03:23 PM
Msg. 4978 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: BobblehobQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
everything from halo 4 sounds so weak
except the incineration cannon Edited by rcghalohell on Jul 20, 2013 at 12:25 AM Are you sure you heard the same sounds as me? Listen to the DMR in 4 compared to Reach, or the AR compared to any of the others from the series, they sound absolutely beastly. God no, h1 ar forever. Halo 4 doesn't deserve comparison to any other halo games
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 03:28 PM
Msg. 4979 of 10646
Beastly? The H4 magnum sounds like a rapid-fire stapler.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 03:31 PM
Msg. 4980 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337The problem I saw with Reach's were that you absolutely had to use a headshot weapon on them, they just had way to much health. No drone plans for CMT. We already have an impressive Covenant lineup. Quote: --- Original message by: Storm .__. I was never keen on the Skirmisher in Halo Reach. If you guys can make it less annoying, then I'll be looking forward to it. If it's just a Reach clone where it's annoying as hell.... god damn :/ What are you keen on? Why did you feel they were annoying? Edited by Masters1337 on Jul 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM I actually like skirmishers, they give a good challenge, just like beam riflers
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 06:02 PM
Msg. 4981 of 10646
The Magnum in H4 is meh, I didn't say all the weapons sounded beastly, but the ones that do really do. The DMR and AR being the best examples. Just for comparisons sake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLAasUgoGYk This video has all the UNSC weapon sounds compared between both games, the AR, DMR, and Sniper received the most obvious sound buffs. Say what you want about H4 (good chance I will agree with you) but the sounds are impressive.
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 09:07 PM
Msg. 4982 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Killer5000 its sunday and what happend to the friday news :( Its saturday for them, and teh lag said yesterday that they would post more news on saturday so... Chill :P
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 09:08 PM
Msg. 4983 of 10646
It's only 8 pm where I am...
on the topic of sounds that doesn't really seem to have a point other than just discussion's sake: I prefer The reach AR sounds. But I will say that the DMR sound is kickass Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:10 PM
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Bobblehob
Joined: Aug 29, 2010
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 09:12 PM
Msg. 4984 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
It's only 8 pm where I am...
on the topic of sounds that doesn't really seem to have a point other than just discussion's sake: I prefer The reach AR sounds. But I will say that the DMR sound is kickass Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:10 PM I agree on the AR sound, I like the Reach sound better, but the H4 sound has more "oomph".
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 09:13 PM
Msg. 4985 of 10646
Is it just me, or did 343 reuse a lot of Reach animations?
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TauSigmaNova
Joined: Jan 31, 2011
If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 09:16 PM
Msg. 4986 of 10646
because they did? e: from memory watching that video the only sounds i think Halo 4 did better were the DMR and S. Laser ones, the rest suck compared to the Reach ones.
Edited by TauSigmaNova on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:18 PM
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 09:27 PM
Msg. 4987 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: TauSigmaNova
because they did? e: from memory watching that video the only sounds i think Halo 4 did better were the DMR and S. Laser ones, the rest suck compared to the Reach ones.
Edited by TauSigmaNova on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:18 PM I thought I was crazy. LOL.
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 09:38 PM
Msg. 4988 of 10646
Don't say halo 4 butchered any halo weapon sounds until you hear the beam rifle sounds
They're so abysmal they'll undoubtedly lower the bar of acceptability for all the other weapons of halo 4 that you think suck. I can't even stand to use the beam rifle in halo 4 because of its firing sound. Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:39 PM
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greg079
Joined: Apr 1, 2013
channeling my inner april fool
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 10:22 PM
Msg. 4989 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
Don't say halo 4 butchered any halo weapon sounds until you hear ALL OF THE COVENANT WEAPON sounds (except maybe the hammer, the concussion rifle, and the FRG, i'll give them the benefit of the doubt since i haven't used them)
They're so abysmal they'll undoubtedly lower the bar of acceptability for all the other weapons of halo 4 that you think suck. 343 IS BAD Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:39 PM ftfy
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 12:25 AM
Msg. 4990 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
Don't say halo 4 butchered any halo weapon sounds until you hear the beam rifle sounds
They're so abysmal they'll undoubtedly lower the bar of acceptability for all the other weapons of halo 4 that you think suck. I can't even stand to use the beam rifle in halo 4 because of its firing sound. Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:39 PM I was actually thinking of halo 3(not odst), and halo 2 for a good challenge against the ai. but the sniper in halo for sounds like the bullet jams, and the beam is ehh, horrid, and the grunts fleeing in terror in halo 4, it looks like they are going "ehh whatever, leader dead, Zzzz"
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 01:06 AM
Msg. 4991 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohellQuote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
Don't say halo 4 butchered any halo weapon sounds until you hear the beam rifle sounds
They're so abysmal they'll undoubtedly lower the bar of acceptability for all the other weapons of halo 4 that you think suck. I can't even stand to use the beam rifle in halo 4 because of its firing sound. Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:39 PM I was actually thinking of halo 3(not odst), and halo 2 for a good challenge against the ai. but the sniper in halo for sounds like the bullet jams, and the beam is ehh, horrid, and the grunts fleeing in terror in halo 4, it looks like they are going "ehh whatever, leader dead, Zzzz" You want a good challenge? Go fight Jackal Snipers on Legendary in Halo 2.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 02:48 AM
Msg. 4992 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AIQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohellQuote: --- Original message by: Delicon20
Don't say halo 4 butchered any halo weapon sounds until you hear the beam rifle sounds
They're so abysmal they'll undoubtedly lower the bar of acceptability for all the other weapons of halo 4 that you think suck. I can't even stand to use the beam rifle in halo 4 because of its firing sound. Edited by Delicon20 on Jul 20, 2013 at 09:39 PM I was actually thinking of halo 3(not odst), and halo 2 for a good challenge against the ai. but the sniper in halo for sounds like the bullet jams, and the beam is ehh, horrid, and the grunts fleeing in terror in halo 4, it looks like they are going "ehh whatever, leader dead, Zzzz" done pc and xbox multiple times, next? lolol I love a good battle :D You want a good challenge? Go fight Jackal Snipers on Legendary in Halo 2.
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miguel_antf
Joined: Jul 23, 2012
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 09:19 AM
Msg. 4993 of 10646
So, the tomorrow's trailer will be just a gameplay like the previous TSE:E trailers or will be like Truth and Reconciliation official trailer, where you show some comparisons and explain some features?
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master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012
343Industries Advocate
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 11:47 AM
Msg. 4994 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell done pc and xbox multiple times, next? lolol I love a good battle :D go through the entire library as arbiter. on legendary. on foot. no vehicles.
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 12:03 PM
Msg. 4995 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: master noobQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell done pc and xbox multiple times, next? lolol I love a good battle :D go through the entire library as arbiter. on legendary. on foot. no vehicles. With a empty energy sword.
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 12:06 PM
Msg. 4996 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AIQuote: --- Original message by: master noobQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell done pc and xbox multiple times, next? lolol I love a good battle :D go through the entire library as arbiter. on legendary. on foot. no vehicles. With a empty energy sword. With black eye skull activated.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 12:40 PM
Msg. 4997 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Danger_zone_98Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AIQuote: --- Original message by: master noobQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell done pc and xbox multiple times, next? lolol I love a good battle :D go through the entire library as arbiter. on legendary. on foot. no vehicles. With a empty energy sword. With black eye skull activated. done, done, anddddd not yet lol
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master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012
343Industries Advocate
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 12:45 PM
Msg. 4998 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell done, done, anddddd not yet lol video or lies
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 01:53 PM
Msg. 4999 of 10646
im pretty sure if I record that on my laptop, it will overheat again, but you do know theres a lot of shortcuts to skip fights right?
jump down ledge at side where the wraith is a distance away, then wait for the fight in the net area to settle a little then sneak by(plus the pelican can kill you) go to the right at first rocket, the rest is common sense
speaking of which, masterz, how many levels have alternate choices? Edited by rcghalohell on Jul 21, 2013 at 01:58 PM
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master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012
343Industries Advocate
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 02:11 PM
Msg. 5000 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
im pretty sure if I record that on my laptop, it will overheat again, but you do know theres a lot of shortcuts to skip fights right?
jump down ledge at side where the wraith is a distance away, then wait for the fight in the net area to settle a little then sneak by(plus the pelican can kill you) go to the right at first rocket, the rest is common sense] so you lied.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 02:38 PM
Msg. 5001 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: master noobQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell
im pretty sure if I record that on my laptop, it will overheat again, but you do know theres a lot of shortcuts to skip fights right?
jump down ledge at side where the wraith is a distance away, then wait for the fight in the net area to settle a little then sneak by(plus the pelican can kill you) go to the right at first rocket, the rest is common sense] so you lied. no I didn't, im not repeating stuff just for a forum post if it takes an hour, especially when I have work in a couple hours and it will be bad frame rate
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master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012
343Industries Advocate
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 02:43 PM
Msg. 5002 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell no I didn't, im not repeating stuff just for a forum post if it takes an hour, especially when I have work in a couple hours and it will be bad frame rate you said you like large battles, yet you claimed that ye avoided them all. lies.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 02:51 PM
Msg. 5003 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: master noobQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell no I didn't, im not repeating stuff just for a forum post if it takes an hour, especially when I have work in a couple hours and it will be bad frame rate you said you like large battles, yet you claimed that ye avoided them all. lies. incorrect, I said I like challenges, and who knows? maybe I was challenging myself to stealth? lol one of my other favs. thank you captain price XD
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master noob
Joined: Aug 10, 2012
343Industries Advocate
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 03:04 PM
Msg. 5004 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell incorrect, I said I like challenges, and who knows? maybe I was challenging myself to stealth? lol one of my other favs. thank you captain price XD then you didn't meet the criteria we set, therefore you lied.
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rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009
I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)
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Posted: Jul 21, 2013 03:07 PM
Msg. 5005 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: master noobQuote: --- Original message by: rcghalohell incorrect, I said I like challenges, and who knows? maybe I was challenging myself to stealth? lol one of my other favs. thank you captain price XD then you didn't meet the criteria we set, therefore you lied. and yet you kept making things worse, and if you think you are so perfect, why don't you do it? Edited by rcghalohell on Jul 21, 2013 at 03:08 PM
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