Is the same procedure going to be done with the Maw? In terms of the ship shaking/going out of control when the player blows up the fusion reactors.

How about something where if you break a window, all movable objects fly out in the direction of said window into the vacuum of space (I imagine this could be achieved through damage effects unless gravity can be made to act horizontally as well).

Like this?

(Please?)

Set the velocity via OS.

While that would be an interesting feature, I would imagine starship windows to be rather resilient to small arms. If one were to be broken, however, that section of the ship would have to be locked down in order to prevent depressurization of the entire ship; you would be unable to complete the mission.

or it could deploy emergency bulkheads, like in Deadspace3

Or force fields, like the boarding craft the covenant use in Halo 4 for the firstish encounter.

I don't see any good way to do whats being described with the current functions in OS. Even if we could, all the scenery objects would still stay stationary. Which is lame.

Give the scenery object names, set their velocity via an OS script. If I'm not mistaken, that works on scenery too.

It would still look pretty bad and unrealistic. plus we're out of object names in A10.

You could always do it in a room with pretty much just warthogs, like a vehicle bay or something.

I could do it without OS. How about a cinematic? First person cutscene? Make the cutscene animations like they did in c20 where they're animated to the BSP. Add the letterbox and no player control like they did in the beginning of b30. Make sure all the scenery, the player, ect is in the animation. Now say that the covenant are opening fire on the ship, they hit a window, cutscene enabled.

Total result: When you enter a trigger volume, it activates the cutscene. The covenant open fire on the ship, like they opened fire on the escape pods, and manages to break a window. The depressurization causes objects to go flying out the window, the player can't move as his body is controlled during the cutscene. Say an object hits you on it's way out and takes out your shields, and almost takes you out with it. The hatch closes, and the cutscene ends.

PS: animating now, as a demonstration.

Just finished setting up the scene, animations in progress :)

If you can actually pull this off well, then this should be a really epic cutscene! :D
Looking forward to your demo, Grunt Eater!

Isn't that a bit overused for sci-fi media?

Oh, don't worry, it'll be new. And different then most.

Instead of having others bust up your ship and causing stuff to get dragged into space,maybe the player should do it to the enemy.

But covies have energy windows...And if your on the ship i don't see how you could blow a huge hole in it, and then it wouldn't be sealable. Idk, i just like this idea better.

I'm not in cmt :/ which now brings to sight that i feel like i'm thread jacking...I'll just shut up now, and post the video later...
Edited by grunt_eater on Dec 30, 2012 at 01:38 AM

lol it's fine, I don't think you need to worry about that...
You're making this suggestion for CMT's use... I think that justifies your thread-jacking :P

Damage effects, weapons, bipeds, crates as vehicles. No OS necessary :3
Edited by WWLinkMasterX on Dec 30, 2012 at 02:55 AM

If I'm not mistaken, OS 3.1 now supports video cinematics. Couldn't you prerender a cinematic and show Masterchief attempting to navigate a corridor through flying scenery?

I wonder why people never think of the halo one cutscenes when they ask for stuff like this... I mean, if mastershief can be lifted into a covenant ship, catch a dead marines body and drag it across the floor, and be teleported by guilty spark, how hard would it be to make an animation? Lol.

Why would you ever do something like this. It's like teasing the player during the middle of a game with something that he can't interact with but can only see. A game's immersion is about interacting with the world, not about watching a movie.

Which is why i'd pre-decided that the player would play a part in the custcene. You'll have a job to do when this happens, trust me.

Which probably involves mashing the action key to prevent being sucked into space...
Not a problem for a Spartan,as long as he/she doesn't go too far.
Edited by Dumb AI on Dec 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Mashing 'E' or another key during a cutscene doesn't count as being interactive.

Is that even a possible/acceptable command in HCE to begin with?

Yep. Bind 'E' to flashlight, check if flashlight is turning on and off.

Wrong again, you guys are bad at this. You'll have to use your shooting skills, under pressure. The only "button mashing" you'll do is to dislodge something by pressing melee, two whole times, and hold "W" for 3 seconds.

Agreed. I would not make this sequence even a scripted cinematic. It could all be done via animated scenery/damage effects/effects. That'd be the best bet. However I do support the BIK cut scenes, although I don't support them if someone is gonna render it in max or something. Would just take to much work to perfect and would probably look bad.

As far as pre-rendered cut-scenes, a lot of games do that. However, rather then turn gravity sideways, why not just rotate everything else? I would think that would have basically the same effect.

On cinematics, button mashing sucks.

However, as to what grunt_eater said, sounds kind of short. Could be made interesting if you use a custom melee for that. I haven't used OS pretty much at all but what I would think is like a weapon switch, with a special melee then switch-back to other gun. Assuming Halo/OS can track your current weapon (I think this can already be done anyway) and ammo (not so sure). And I am guessing there are other ways to do this as well.

As to how to put a hole in a ship, why not have a RL? Then when glass breaks some blast doors automagically close over the window.

The beginning will be a cinematic. Heck i'll just give the basic idea here and now. First, the custscene will be first person. I've already tested it and it works. The window gets blasted, objects\particles go flying into the opened space. The player is pulled too but catches themselves on a barricade that is bolted to the floor. An object hits you and takes out your shields, but you still hold on. You are then loaded into a vehicle seat, much like the passenger seat of the warthog, that you can aim with your weapon. There is a switch that you have to shoot, while damage effects are shaking your screen rapidly to simulate the power of the vacuum of space. Once shot, the hatch starts to close. But it gets jammed by an object that you have to go and dislodge, this is where you melee to break it free, and the animation is you kicking it out. Once you do that you almost get sucked out, this is when you hold "W" key to climb back in. The hatch closes, cutscene over.



Using a script to check if the melee key has been struck, you tell the game to play the kicking animation, and the animation that moves the object you're kicking when it is. The wait till it is again and finish kicking the object out, tah dah...
Edited by grunt_eater on Dec 30, 2012 at 02:51 PM

Could be even more interesting if you do get sucked out and you have find a way back in.

Meh, i think that would be too distracting from the actual level. But whatever. I'm just doing the first plan for now, maybe something else later.