I only made the untextured wall pieces, the rest are stock amnesia assets.
Edited by SeL on Dec 2, 2011 at 07:24 PM

Everyday im shufflin.

http://www.xfire.com/video/510326/
How's this for a newbie?

^One of the best songs in all existence. I would play a map with these bipeds and the song playing any day.

XSI is everything max should have been.
It can snap your edge cuts to 15 degree increments. Easy forerunner architecture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zkugyGWBiw

Those are some cool toys.

Max can snap to grids and or verts, edges,primatives and any angle you specify.

Max can snap to edges or the middle of edges and to grids. That still isn't an arbitrary 15 degree increment snap. I can even set the increments I want it to snap at. I can do this on any mesh topology as well.
I can have it test a range of input values for any modifier and it will even show me little thumbnails.

The entire software is just a dream to me.
I can program GLSL shaders. Make my own procedural meshes. Unwrap like a god.
It animates with a larger toolset than maya.
Tabbed base workflow and full modularization of tools. Proper mesh optimization. Customizable tools.
I can go on. This is just the perfect 3d modeling software.

And best of all


Try getting chamfers/bevels like this in max.
Edited by DEEhunter on Dec 5, 2011 at 01:16 AM

Challenge accepted anyone?

If only it exported to halo.

That is an extremely awesome chamfer. Y U NO DO THIS 3DS MAX?
What you can do is model in XSI then export to 3ds max as collada or fbx format, and then fix any export errors.
Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Dec 5, 2011 at 03:29 PM

Looks cool but put it as a link please. I can barely type right now it's so laggy. -.-

If blue streak was open source it would be super easy.
XSI supports C# C++ javascript and python as scripting languages.

Maybe ask bobbysoon? He edited the bluestreak exporter... Don't know if that helps or makes a difference at all...

.. you've never opened a max script in notepad before, have you? The bluestreak JMS exporter is laid out pretty darn nice... serious, open it in notepad, read all about the copywrite at the top, and see the easy to read layout just below.

Last time I opened bluestreak in notepad it was garbage due to it being encrypted.
Oh well.

I don't intend to port this to XSI anyways.
I haven't messed with max scripts in ages.

aw

Too bad that isn't what xsi was doing in my pic.
XSI was snapping the edge cut by 15 degree increments. Not snapping to a grid so you can have any length or topology and it will do it properly.
And S just enables snapping. Doesn't exactly snap to grid unless you tell it to in the snap options.
(right click the icon with the 3 and the magnet)


Also, was trying to mess with max scripts again. Found this in my tools folder. Not sure where I got it from.
It lets you do quad connects around corners and such. Requires 3ds max 2010 and up.

macroScript QuadConnect
category:"BTK Scripts"
Tooltip:"QuadConnect"
ButtonText:"QuadConnect"
(
    if (selection.count == 1 and classOf selection[1].baseobject  == Editable_Poly) then
    (
        local curObj = $.baseobject
        
        case subobjectlevel of
        (
            2:    --    EdgeMode ?
            (
        local edgeSel = (polyop.getEdgeSelection curObj)as array
                case edgeSel.count of
                (
                    1: --    1 edge selected=split edge
                    (
                        $.EditablePoly.divideEdge edgeSel[1] 0.5 select:on
                        subobjectLevel = 1

                    )
                    default: --else it's quad connect
                    (
                    $.connectEdgeSegments = 1        --    change the value will chagne the default Connect Edge Segments value
                            $.EditablePoly.ConnectEdges ()
                        PolyToolsModeling.BuildCorner()
                                        )
                )    
            )
        )
    )
)

Edited by DEEhunter on Dec 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Looking nice Sel, but you need to make the light less intrusive. I doubt it'd be that bright and intense at night.

Well it's more that the skybox is currently set to black, and the beams look extra bright since they're in front of a white wall, you can see this effect on the lights too.

But yeah you're right the beams do look silly as they are.

Finally, a video on correctly making cliff geometry as opposed to the usual tri-mess that I have been seeing a lot of you guys do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FBCTI4MLMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4zjkvxUQnY

Dont go claiming it is too high poly.
It is only as high poly as you make it. This person was clearly making it for next-gen purposes and he needed the extra geometry seeing that it uses vertex colors as opposed to halo CE's splat maps.
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81800

There is no "correct" way on making any geometry, (yes, there is better modeling techniques than others though), in the end it souly matters on what the end product looks like and if it works good ingame.

Your technique looks good but some of the geometry looks pretty unnatural (End product ingame looked alright though??). I'll give it a try sometime.
Edited by Higuy on Dec 8, 2011 at 08:23 PM

That wasn't created by Dee. It was created by a guy over at Polycount, who is pretty much a god at modeling. :)

EDIT: This is the guy:
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81800&page=10

And yes, it looks amazing ingame. haha:




Go through the thread to see more. Fact is, what dee posted, is a very good learning source.
Edited by Joshflighter on Dec 8, 2011 at 08:29 PM

oh, well my points still kinda stand :o

The ingame result does look pretty good but that geometry in max looked really wierd, especially on that one curve/buldge thing.

Those bulges and such are intended to be rock chunks shoved in or resurfaced from erosion and such. The way he uses it though is a tiling texture with vertex colors blending between materials. Would be nicer if the texture complimented the large details the model conveys but it works either way.

I saw this stuff a few days ago while browsing youtube. It's a great technique that I will try to incorporate into my next project. Although Higuy is right, there is no right or wrong technique. It is hard to weld all of those verts when nothing can be opened edged in Halo. But never the less, a good technique for cryengine and UDK.

What?
You mean like how he welded the top of the cliff to the rest of the level?
3Ds max has xview for a reason. Unless you are using 3ds max 8 or 9 for what ever reason...

nvm
Edited by Delicon20 on Dec 8, 2011 at 09:24 PM

Umm, no? I'm talking about the detailed cliff model that he created and how you will run into open edge errors if you attach such a thing to your BSP. Unless you know a solution??? I'm dying to hear it.

Edit: Apparently I learn something everyday.
Edited by KingFisher on Dec 8, 2011 at 09:45 PM

wish mc had bagpipe tags that shoot from the chanter lol.



couldn't resist it...

Edited by ally on Dec 12, 2011 at 04:21 AM

Ooh, fancy *gawk*... Now wait, what am I doing commenting at 1:00 AM?! I really should sleep... It is nice looking, though.