Can this stop now? I PM'ed Skidrow to help him, if you guys wanna help do the same! I come to this thread to see cool things like trains!

And WTF critique my low poly stuff I put on the previous page! haha

The parking meter is absolutely perfect for a simple scenery model (from what I can see). Assuming that you can get it in game, no modifications are necessary IMHO.

The AK, is alright. The magazine looks very disproportional to the gun (should be closer to the magazine release and wider). I could see it being used with LOD for 3rd person characters.

No, Sel is right, and so are you.

Basically what were trying to tell you is that you can do it your way, which is extremely inefficient, or you can do it a different way, and do it faster and better. The methods aren't right or wrong, ones just superior to the other.

Also, your obviously doing something wrong if your just getting a "basic shape" and you have over 5,000 polys.

Seriously, create verts and faces. Make the most basic shapes that you can (straight up and down cliffs, very little detailed ground, etc.) Once you know FOR SURE your gameplay is good, then detail it all you want. It's going to cost you less, and make your map better in gameplay and graphics.

Please excuse your ignorance for at least looking into the method that a lot of use.

http://vimeo.com/11781231

You may also want to consider that we have been doing this a tad longer then you have, and we might actually be right about things. Just a suggestion!

like stated above, your DOING IT WRONG BOY! :P

Take the crit, it's there to help you.! Dammit.

Hey guys which style looks better.

This one...





or this one...

style? idk what you mean by style but i think the second one would fit the map better

Seconded.

yep, second one looks a lot more realistic.

Yeah that's what I was figuring.
The second one was an attempt at making one to budget polies. No smoothing groups that define the doors on that one :/

that 1 is the best of the 2.btw that map is looking awesome slasher.

the Legend of Spyro
Dawn of the Dragon HUD

http://www.xfire.com/video/4279a5/

its not the best HUD,
Some of you will like it
Some of you will Hate it
Haters gonna Hate
And if your too lazy to watch the HUD in action:


Though still a WIP, its working better then i started..
when i started both shield and health was behind background
then it was just the shield, now its fixed :3

what i am Planing to do:

Swap Player icon (spyro icon) with a simalar styled Weapon icon (Assalt Rifle for example, pionting up/right direction)
and the powerup icon as the type of ammo the weapon uses
The combo meter will probably be the total remaining ammo/plasma

the Furry meter, i dont know yet, static maybe, or video overlay for an awesome overcharge effect,

Cynder...
as for her health/mana meters well static i'm guessing, or Grenade Details,

player icon = active grenade
powerup icon = inactive grenade
combo meters = total active grenades
meters... well... Anyone have an idea for these? More Grenade info? More Weapon info? More ???? Info?

Take Note: If it looks Right and Feals Right, Ill put it in...
So ideas would be Nice!

Some scenery updates.
Open in new tab for full sizes.

I like the second one leetslshr.
Also those thingie's are pretty cool. Can't wait to wee it finished.




Ok so I decided to combine methods just because. So far it's taking longer. A lot longer. But it does work for sealing stuff.
Now that I have a basic shape I am gonna start sealing it up and get it textured and see if tool approves.

Our methods may take more time up front but when you hit tool if you did it right you should only have 1 or 2 errors as opposed to your method.

@ Eliteslasher

The colors of everything don't really match to well. (scenery to bsp, scenery to scenery, etc) Might be the lighting, but I dunno.

@Higuy

Yeah. I been thinking the same thing and have come to one conclusion. I think it is because I have started using a little less grunge on some things because, well, at least IMO, too many people think that everything has to be dirty or rusted to hell for some reason. Most of the textures of the map have a few layers of grime and general wear. I am thinking that may change for the release though because not EVERYTHING in a game has to look dirty. That's probably why they look so different right now mainly because I am trying this a bit.

@Everybody

NEWS FLASH

Some people like to keep up their stuff in reality and don't just own 10 year old rusted stuff. Sort of the reason I liked the textures in halo reach I think they too came to that realization that not everything in the world has to be this way.

You should put in a masterchief face instead of spyro

There is a difference between offering advice and forcing it on to someone, something that many people here can not understand.

You should read the entire post before quoting;
i said: "Swap Player icon (spyro icon) with a similar styled Weapon icon"

NEWS FLASH

Things are made rusted because metal rust's over time. And assuming your map hasn't been "used" in a while it's gonna look a little rusty.

I like quoting. and I did read the whole post. And it said weapon icon. I was suggesting a master chief. :)

Well that's my point at least for this map.
Power on should in most cases equate to recent activity meaning it should be cleaner. That's why I am thinking of changing the grime layers to be less prominent in the map.

I can see for some maps such as maps where something is used for storage or something has obviously been abandoned that having grime and rust makes sense, but I have looked at some maps for CoD mainly as well as some other games where their usage of rust and grime makes little sense. Just saying that people seem to evaluate a games bitmap quality by how much detail is put into making things look used when sometimes a texture that is kept up and cleaner looking is what is really needed to make sense but they still won't use it.

First attemtpt at modeling a small cliff:




Edited by Sergeant 1337 on Mar 8, 2011 at 05:34 PM

Indeed, some metal does rust over time, but it also depends on a considerable amount of variables as to why. Could range from anything to the weather, people there, if its painted, etc. Your map kinda shows that things should only be a little dirty, but not totally grungy. Imo, the lockers need to be less brown, and more a whitish/brown almost (beige?), and a bit shiny, to give a painted feeling.



Looks alright for your first try, but I suggest just googling some pictures of cliffs and trying to copy them the best you can. The cliffs you have now look a bit unnaturally weathered, and I think you could do a bit better. Try not to have so much noise on all the vertices, but to rather show more detailed cracks and etc by using the cut tool and moving the vertices. Don't make it smooth, but don't make it unnaturally jagged.

Well yes, but from his pictures he isn't trying to take that route.

Oh wow, that cut tool is actually really useful. Thanks Higuy, I'll make some improvements and post pics.

This is what happens when you listen to more experienced members. :D

Also, I've been bored lately and I've done some small things for myself.



I know the errors on the biped (they've since been fixed) so don't point them out.
And I know it takes no skill whatsoever to do this stuff.

what err- o,icwatthayr :)

so anyways, for the cliffs, I should try to model deeper spaces where cracks are in the textures?
Edited by Sergeant 1337 on Mar 8, 2011 at 10:42 PM

No, use a bump map to handle that. Only model in large details.
Edited by SeL on Mar 8, 2011 at 10:57 PM

ok, ya thats what i was thinking. So just keep doing what I'm doing, but better.

UPDATE ON DAWN OF THE DRAGON HUD

Assault Rifle:

Or Video in action: http://www.xfire.com/video/4295f8/

As a WIP it is still way off my designated target.

Need to fix:

• Color of Loaded ammo Number to Blue


• Add Total ammo remaining somewhere (Combo Position??)


• (IF BOTHERED) like 1px around the Assault rifle icon and the Background

Need to do:

• Create DOTD GRENADE HUD (poor cynder)


• Furry meter (used for Special video overlay effect i will use)


• Reticule?


• Various weapon HUD


• Various Vehicle HUD


• Dawn of the Dragon HUD Numbers


• ((POSSIBLE)) CynderSide version


• HUD Globals


• And much More...

I may work on a reversed version of my DOTD HUD for Cynder fans
i will call this the CynderSide DOTD HUD

For now i will work on the DOTD Grenade HUD...
If you can help me in acquiring the HUD Numbers for DOTD, Please Help, this will not be Completely finished without them!

XFire: Volteer55

Find out the name of the font used in the game, google the font name on Google Images, find the appropriate image, save it to your desktop, get it in-game.

ITC Conduit (Halo 2, 3, reach font)


Eurostile (Reach HUD numbers)


All you gotta do is invert the colors, size the numbers appropriately, and turn them into sprites. It's what I did for my Halo 3 HUD.
Edited by jesse on Mar 9, 2011 at 01:59 AM

Download Conduit? :o http://www.mediafire.com/?bisl9o8upwdvo8b

Yeah. I agree with ya there. about the lockers, I've been trying to get a decent texture and shader for those and they are giving me a hell of a time. Wish I knew more about texturing. Not even exactly sure how to acquire exactly what I want, but I guess I can only keep trying and keep looking for ways to improve my texturing.

Also. Just another small update on scenery I am working on for Gen Fac.
Still needs to be reworked with accountance for the chipped paint that should be near the fake ridges I put in, but should be no biggie to rework that.

Plus, what was that thing we were talking about too much grime?
That might apply here. May have to tone that down a little.

Thanks for accurly noticing my HUD,
but finding the appropriate font will be HARD cause almost no one that plays it, knows anything in this area, thus i am really working alone on this, and i dont want to "mod" the game just to get a bunch of numbers... on the downside, i have not got a clue on where to begin with sprites, all i know is a blue box arround the target sprite within the bitmap, ...i was gonna say more, but i forgot at the start... so ill leave it as this...