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anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 10:45 AM    Msg. 7106 of 12975       


bobz7
Joined: Sep 29, 2010

Were it so easy...


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 12:33 PM    Msg. 7107 of 12975       
^^It'd be really cool to have that in-game. Please do consider making a low poly version :)


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 12:54 PM    Msg. 7108 of 12975       


:)



Edited by anonymous_2009 on Dec 5, 2010 at 12:54 PM


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010

This account is old. Sorry for inappropriate posts


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 12:58 PM    Msg. 7109 of 12975       
lol
how do you get the lighting like that in renders in 3DS max? as compared to my renders on that last page


bobz7
Joined: Sep 29, 2010

Were it so easy...


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 01:02 PM    Msg. 7110 of 12975       
Oh nice release it please. Just out of curiosity, how exactly do you make a low poly model from a hi-poly one? Do you do some sort of "downscaling" to the original one or do you make it from scratch?


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 01:10 PM    Msg. 7111 of 12975       
Delete turbo-smooth from everything then remove un-needed detail. I will release when I find the time to modify afew parts to make a better bake, I would unwrap it quickly now but I need to chamfer afew edges so it bakes correctly.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 01:28 PM    Msg. 7112 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Shockwave
Have you other views?
Example origin:


Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010

Sup.


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 02:29 PM    Msg. 7113 of 12975       
*drools*


G TheFlea
Joined: Sep 19, 2008

CANADIAN


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 05:46 PM    Msg. 7114 of 12975       
generally the low poly model is like... still a WIP and the high poly model is with all the details and everything done..

EDIT:
i'd really like the high poly version of that shotgun for my demo :D

and
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009
Smoothing two faces next to each other tells the rendering engine that the normals should be averaged out using the two angles from the faces.

This means that there is also no seam between these two faces and makes an object look round instead loads of triangles. Objects are also split-up in the game engine based on the smoothing groups, that is why most game models all have ONE smoothing group but textures and normal maps hide this.


...
every face in a model has a "normal" which is the angle perpendicular to the plane in 3 space that the face lies on. normals are used primarily to calculate lighting on faces which is why when you "flip" the normals in 3ds max, the angle is inversed and lighting is calculated from the other side. when you assign two faces the same smooth group, lighting will be calculated the same for all the angle between the face's normals. 3ds max i believe uses the Euclidian smoothing method (might be wrong i cant remember) to smooth the lighting on the faces so that they APPEAR to be seamless.
Edited by G TheFlea on Dec 5, 2010 at 06:01 PM


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 07:22 PM    Msg. 7115 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: G TheFlea

generally the low poly model is like... still a WIP and the high poly model is with all the details and everything done..

EDIT:
i'd really like the high poly version of that shotgun for my demo :D

and
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009
Smoothing two faces next to each other tells the rendering engine that the normals should be averaged out using the two angles from the faces.

This means that there is also no seam between these two faces and makes an object look round instead loads of triangles. Objects are also split-up in the game engine based on the smoothing groups, that is why most game models all have ONE smoothing group but textures and normal maps hide this.


...
every face in a model has a "normal" which is the angle perpendicular to the plane in 3 space that the face lies on. normals are used primarily to calculate lighting on faces which is why when you "flip" the normals in 3ds max, the angle is inversed and lighting is calculated from the other side. when you assign two faces the same smooth group, lighting will be calculated the same for all the angle between the face's normals. 3ds max i believe uses the Euclidian smoothing method (might be wrong i cant remember) to smooth the lighting on the faces so that they APPEAR to be seamless.
Edited by G TheFlea on Dec 5, 2010 at 06:01 PM


http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=33932


eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008

Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 07:44 PM    Msg. 7116 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009
Delete turbo-smooth from everything then remove un-needed detail. I will release when I find the time to modify afew parts to make a better bake, I would unwrap it quickly now but I need to chamfer afew edges so it bakes correctly.


Oh sweet! You're actually going to finish this?! Love those models.


IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

-Minor modeler-


Posted: Dec 5, 2010 09:38 PM    Msg. 7117 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009

@IcePhoenix:

Screenshot?





Edited by anonymous_2009 on Dec 5, 2010 at 08:00 AM

It was on the previous page because of the amount of talk about human weapons.


PX173
Joined: Aug 22, 2009

It was worth it.


Posted: Dec 6, 2010 03:20 AM    Msg. 7118 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009
Quote: --- Original message by: PX173

Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009

@IcePhoenix:

Screenshot?
Edited by anonymous_2009 on Dec 5, 2010 at 08:00 AM

^This. To comment on your PR, it looks good, or at least considerable from what we've seen.

And also, this. Crit for the new model pl0x?

Image was late.
Edited by PX173 on Dec 5, 2010 at 09:08 AM


My issues are similar to what someone else has already outlined, which is the depth of the overall weapon, sometimes you can't help as that's they way the weapon is designed.

But if you can compromise try and give it more depth so when you look down the side of the weapon it looks interesting and appealing and not just flat. here are some examples, using one of my own models because its a good example not trying to show off as people will see it that way.

It is also rather boxy, you got a reference image of the weapon?

Actually I made it up myself, though it should work in real life without making noticeable modifications. No sketches, straight on the canvas. Yeah I know it's improper work etiquette. I'll try to add depth, also, nice model.


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Dec 6, 2010 06:45 AM    Msg. 7119 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: ODX
Quote: --- Original message by: Shockwave
Have you other views?
Example origin:


very nice indeed


Shockwave
Joined: Apr 7, 2010

Animator / Modeler / VFX


Posted: Dec 6, 2010 04:08 PM    Msg. 7120 of 12975       
Yes that's cool !
The model is very awesome ! You do it with only planes ?


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Dec 6, 2010 04:15 PM    Msg. 7121 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Shockwave
Yes that's cool !
The model is very awesome ! You do it with only planes ?


I START all my models with planes, and I posted this ages ago why it seem everyone has only just seen it?


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Dec 6, 2010 04:37 PM    Msg. 7122 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Shockwave
Yes that's cool !
The model is very awesome ! You do it with only planes ?


yes, he's just pro like that :P


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 01:15 AM    Msg. 7123 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: anonymous_2009
Quote: --- Original message by: Shockwave
Yes that's cool !
The model is very awesome ! You do it with only planes ?


I START all my models with planes, and I posted this ages ago why it seem everyone has only just seen it?

Wasn't a low poly model also made and released? I remember someone saying they were working on it and they showed work, but I don't remember if it was ever finished or released.


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 09:58 AM    Msg. 7124 of 12975       
Lowpoly is made, ive put a picture of it on this page, just not unwrapped it yet so ain't bothered to release.


Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009

EPI Creator


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 03:45 PM    Msg. 7125 of 12975       
hi all im back from ym dungeon of models...made this randomly, dunno if it suks or not ill leave that up to yall...about 1.5 tris. silencer and attachment are separate so u can remove em, slide hammer are separate...as well as clip and trigger...and a few floaters.


AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010

- Animator... suck it -


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 04:16 PM    Msg. 7126 of 12975       
I like it. I'd definitely be inclined to animate it,


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 04:18 PM    Msg. 7127 of 12975       
I made a pistol ^^



Hoo-ray for 5min models!


SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009

You are irritating, I'll release nothing


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 05:44 PM    Msg. 7128 of 12975       
Modern pistols are short-barrel. Especially halo's pistols. Other than that, there are smoothing problems... and that it's not very detailed at all.
I personally don't like 5- or 15-min models.


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 05:49 PM    Msg. 7129 of 12975       
Have you ever seen an M1911? Or the Glock 17-20's? They have longer barrels. And I know the smoothing isn't very good.

Also I will be detailing it. Later.


Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009

EPI Creator


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 06:02 PM    Msg. 7130 of 12975       
the m1911 is a pretty old gun buddy, modern yes, but still quite old....


Hydrogen
Joined: Dec 6, 2009

Wort Wort Wort...


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 10:42 PM    Msg. 7131 of 12975       
m1911 was made in ww2 thats like 70 - 60 years ago


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 10:46 PM    Msg. 7132 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Hydrogen
m1911 was made in ww2 thats like 70 - 60 years ago
... Failure there man.

It was made in 1911. Hence the name. Simple math Einstein. 1911-2010=99. WWII was roughly fought in 1940-ish. Around then anyway.


Hydrogen
Joined: Dec 6, 2009

Wort Wort Wort...


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 11:41 PM    Msg. 7133 of 12975       
70 years ago 1940 so

stfu...

also i want proof it wasnt made for ww2


Hydrogen
Joined: Dec 6, 2009

Wort Wort Wort...


Posted: Dec 7, 2010 11:55 PM    Msg. 7134 of 12975       
Quote: 1911


World war 1 was at that time if i remember correct so i was close


Geared
Joined: Mar 6, 2009

EPI Creator


Posted: Dec 8, 2010 01:58 AM    Msg. 7135 of 12975       
skidrow congrats on making urself look like a jackars. next time, think b4 u type, adn research wat the hell ur talking about. some gun are named after the year(the 47 in ak 47 i think is 1947) but not all are.


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: Dec 8, 2010 09:47 AM    Msg. 7136 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Geared
skidrow congrats on making urself look like a jackars. next time, think b4 u type, adn research wat the hell ur talking about. some gun are named after the year(the 47 in ak 47 i think is 1947) but not all are.
Guess what? The M1911 was made in designed and made and issued in 1911. It said that on the Wiki page. Also I did think before I typed and I do know about the 1911 because I have asked several people who know about it and have found out various things about it.

So Yes I know what I am talking about.


UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008

its been fun yall, i'll never forget this site :')


Posted: Dec 8, 2010 10:04 AM    Msg. 7137 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Hydrogen
Quote: 1911


World war 1 was at that time if i remember correct so i was close

World War 1:
28 July 1914 – 11 November 1918


PenGuin1362
Joined: Feb 4, 2008


Posted: Dec 8, 2010 12:56 PM    Msg. 7138 of 12975       
The colt pistol was actually developed prior to 1911, and had been in production since the late 1800's. It was officially named the M1911 in the year 1911 when it was officially adopted by the United States Army as the new standard issue side arm....in 1911. The 1911's design began in the late 1800's as an attempt to create a self loading pistol. It went through a series of trials and tests in the years leading up to 1911 to prove it could be the new standard issue side arm. tl;dr 1911 originated before 1911. 1911 does not equal World War 2 or one for that matter.

Also did you even try when you made that? Gather some references and give it another go


Skidrow925
Joined: Mar 19, 2010

"ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"


Posted: Dec 8, 2010 01:04 PM    Msg. 7139 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
The colt pistol was actually developed prior to 1911, and had been in production since the late 1800's. It was officially named the M1911 in the year 1911 when it was officially adopted by the United States Army as the new standard issue side arm....in 1911. The 1911's design began in the late 1800's as an attempt to create a self loading pistol. It went through a series of trials and tests in the years leading up to 1911 to prove it could be the new standard issue side arm. tl;dr 1911 originated before 1911. 1911 does not equal World War 2 or one for that matter.

Also did you even try when you made that? Gather some references and give it another go

"tl;dr"? What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Quote: Designer John Browning
Designed 1911[1] & 1927 (A1)
Number built Over 2 million
Variants M1911A1,[1] RIA Officers


Amazingcuziam
Joined: Apr 16, 2010

Sup.


Posted: Dec 8, 2010 01:27 PM    Msg. 7140 of 12975       
Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925
Quote: --- Original message by: PenGuin1362
The colt pistol was actually developed prior to 1911, and had been in production since the late 1800's. It was officially named the M1911 in the year 1911 when it was officially adopted by the United States Army as the new standard issue side arm....in 1911. The 1911's design began in the late 1800's as an attempt to create a self loading pistol. It went through a series of trials and tests in the years leading up to 1911 to prove it could be the new standard issue side arm. tl;dr 1911 originated before 1911. 1911 does not equal World War 2 or one for that matter.

Also did you even try when you made that? Gather some references and give it another go

"tl;dr"? What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Quote: Designer John Browning
Designed 1911[1] & 1927 (A1)
Number built Over 2 million
Variants M1911A1,[1] RIA Officers
To Long; Didn't Read

 
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