What happened?
Oh, and while im here, i'll show my current version of my magnum.

Edited by Amazingcuziam on Dec 4, 2010 at 08:18 PM

whats an average poly count for a weapon?

Malware accidentally downloaded from Facebook embedded itself in my RAID controller driver, iaStor.sys. Now I cannot log on without encountering a BSOD, and now I have to bust my ass trying to fix it.

IDK why the hell I have a RAID controller anyway, much less a RAID Driver; I only have one hard drive.

As for the pistol, it still feels kinda off. Compared to the last one, it is vastly better. You should work on using references and imagining your model in a 3d sense to make your model more into proportion. From the first looks of it, it looks cumbersome and akward to hold.

However, I really like the front end of it. From the angle of it, it looks like it's actually 3d instead of a flat plane, and looks nicer compared to the rest of it. I would definitely keep the front end of the pistol.

He got a Virus and I am attempting to fix it so he can get his stuff back.

FYI Dennis was that you up there? That looks funny.

-.-

No it wasn't. I don't look that good. But whoever it was, posting people's pictures in the forum is not acceptable. Just as re-posting a picture after it has been removed by the admin can get you banned.
Edited by Dennis on Dec 4, 2010 at 08:48 PM

im confused, what just happened?

I meant helping...

im modeling a weapon, how do i divide one plane on the top into several equal parts?

Great, my post got ignored because someone else posted their AR.
Need some feedback and answers please.

Select two edges on the face which are opposite each other and click "Connect", then do the same for the other edges opposite each other but also select the new edge in the middle of the two an click "Connect" again.

Tessellate is the best way I have found as long as the number thingie is set to 0.

Is this at me or the guy above me?
And if it is me I don't understand.

prob for me. thanks skidrow, tessalate worked ok for what i wanted to do

I know i suck at modeling. no need to tell me that. this is the first model ive ever finished. instead of telling me i suck, tell me what i should do better on my next one. yes, i am aware i hav not done a trigger yet.






Edited by abkarch on Dec 4, 2010 at 09:26 PM

lol np

As for that PR it looks kinda strange with those smoothing groups.

I think that your models suffer from something that a majority of both new and experienced modelers from. The model overall lacks depth and '3dness'.

What I mean is, that your model needs to have more featured of it which makes it look like that it is not just a flat plane. Using circular objects and curvy and intricate surfaces null that negative effect.

I understand that it's not entirely possible to add depth to a rifle, considering that on first impression, the rifle is just a flat object, but pay attention to features on the rifle. I find the AR-15 rifle to be a really nice example of this.

The AR-15 in it's basic form is a flat, standard rifle. When you take the time to model it, however, you need to pay attention to the major details of it. The forward assist is a circular device that goes on the right side of the rifle. The handguard is circular, with indents and rails on the top and sides. The sighting system and carrying handle is an integration with the receiver, and you need to make it look like it.

All of these tiny, almost insignificant details on the gun will immediately add depth and that '3dness' to your model. It'll no longer look like a flat, ugly model. But how does this apply to your model? I can immediately see areas where detail will greatly improve your model both fundamentally and aesthetically. Look at other guns and models where detail is added in good amounts.

Don't get too carried away though, a lot of the detail can be added in textures and normal maps. Insignificant triangles or circles indented into the rifle are usually not necessary.

Note that I'm an animator, and not a modeler, so I don't exactly know what modelers have to go through to create models like these. My only concern is how the model will look in a first person animation, and how I can work with it to create an animation. My criticism is purely built off of my own knowledge of animation and my impressions as a normal person looking at it.

what's a smoothing group?

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It is what makes the model not look like a bunch of flat triangles pieced together.
That is about the best way I can summarize it... You can switch them under editable mesh near hte bottom of the list thing... anyone wanna help me out here?

Smoothing two faces next to each other tells the rendering engine that the normals should be averaged out using the two angles from the faces.

This means that there is also no seam between these two faces and makes an object look round instead loads of triangles. Objects are also split-up in the game engine based on the smoothing groups, that is why most game models all have ONE smoothing group but textures and normal maps hide this.

What he said.

anyone wanna provide some criticism...?

On what? I forgot what you did.

the giant, four picture post i made last page

This wasn't directed at your model, but I think it mostly sums up your model as well.

The handle doesn't look like someoen would want to hold it. See if you can round the back of the gun. Have you ever seen a real pistol? the back is rounded and the hammer takes up about 1/3 to 1/2 of the back not the whole thing.

Where the handle connects to the gun I think should be bigger. Also the clip should either be straight or curved more.

Over all not to shabby for a first.

Ami rly gun hav 2 say dis agan? (English translation, Am i really going to have to say this again?) I said it before, and i'll say it again, I can't use "References" on that model, (other than my sketches) because it is NOT a remake, i am making it purely off a sketch of mine. So, sorry but using refs is kinda out of the question lol... I actually find it funny that you like the front part, i find it to be somewhat awkward looking...

Then imagine your model in 3d sense. Paint a picture in your mind of how you want the model to look, then repaint that picture onto your model (figuratively). That's what I do with my animations.

lol, i do, but i don't do particularly well with detail, (hence why i'm practicing)

So... is there any way to make the notch seem more pronounced without changing the round parts?
Or should I just not care about it since the textures will hide the wierd shading?

This reply's a little late...

That was really my problem. I wanted it to be like the XM8 - simple. No extra grooves or extrusions, just what you need to have and making it better. I also made it ambidextrous, so it's completely symmetric. So far I'm content with the butt stock, the barrel, and the magazine, but the latter two is because there's not really more to add. If you're asking me it looks like the usual models with just some boxes and cylinders.

As for the other guy, sorry 'bout that, but pretty much it's the smoothing groups, as I and everybody else says.

@IcePhoenix:

Screenshot?





Edited by anonymous_2009 on Dec 5, 2010 at 08:00 AM

^This. To comment on your PR, it looks good, or at least considerable from what we've seen.

And also, this. Crit for the new model pl0x?

Image was late.
Edited by PX173 on Dec 5, 2010 at 09:08 AM

My issues are similar to what someone else has already outlined, which is the depth of the overall weapon, sometimes you can't help as that's they way the weapon is designed.

But if you can compromise try and give it more depth so when you look down the side of the weapon it looks interesting and appealing and not just flat. here are some examples, using one of my own models because its a good example not trying to show off as people will see it that way:

You see that this is rather flat:

not very interesting to look at in a first person shooter.

Although the following has depth and looks interesting in first person:


It is also rather boxy, you got a reference image of the weapon?

not seen as showing off not when your good at what you do so...yeah nice model.
just wish there was more of your models put ingame.
Edited by ally on Dec 5, 2010 at 09:52 AM

Have you other views ?