Hmm, that is what I was worried about. I kinda think the same thing, but I was curious to see if others would have the same opinion.

I think I am gonna change the top part back (or at least mostly), what about the stock and forgrip parts? Better as the darker plastic-like material? or better as the lighter metal?

I think that the first one looks better, however if you could add the magazine/clip light grey to the first one, that would look great.

K. I already redid the barrel, and since its so far into the future, ill model a battery pack into the magazine.

Im also thinking that I should replace the second grip that is horizontal right now with a vertical grip, so its less akward to hold. Unless you all think i should just ditch the shoulder thing and kinda build it into the back of the weapon like halo does? (seems like it would feel a little more compact that way, i think i would like it)
Edited by abkarch on May 23, 2012 at 07:30 PM

I understand that you want it like the MA5B, but there is nothing to it. You might as well just give the edges a smooth look so it actually looks like metal and realistic, or you can afew minor changes from other AR's from the Halo games, which still don't change it's shape and overall style at all.

Edit:



Looks a bit better, but a bit too much of the filter "clouds" has been used, and adds bit's of colour, not noticeable colour but paint it over, you won't be able to see it but it will in a way make a difference.

Also, the extruded "chin rest" part on the back of it, I think you should make it a separate object, so it's like screwed to the metal, and it should be made of rubber. I think that will look better.
Edited by anonymous_2009 on May 23, 2012 at 07:42 PM

Liked the first Texture /way/ better.

I didn't use and "filter clouds" but my shading was way to extreme on that one. I agree that the MA5B doesn't have enough to it, I wasn't saying I didn't want to add new detail, I was just saying that I was reluctant to make the top part a lighter metal.

I darkened the metal back a bit, and made the shading less extreme.




I will try what you mentioned about adding bits of color.

Basically my whole point in making this was to see if I could one-up the CEA assault rifle that 343i did. So although I am fine with adding surface details from other weapons, and changing the texturing however I want/need to etc... I am not going to change the overall structure of the weapon. So even though your chin rest idea is definately a better design, I am not going to change it.

That looks better than before, but the shading on the top of the assault rifle where the 3 indented lines are looks somewhat weird and repetitive. Maybe that's just me

I think you should add some detail to the grip and the area just above the magazine. It looks pretty bland there.

totally needs a yellow stripe in my opinion :P

It looks really good!

Needs moar shiny.

Less grimy(I'm a poet.)

Nah bro, he can't bring out the shine,
else people will whine
And compare with MA5C
instead to seeing as MA5B
So I think it looks good
as much as it should. (I'm sort of a rapper)
Edited by Spartan314 on May 24, 2012 at 04:11 AM

Someone said Rail-Gun?

I was slightly going for the look of the mass driver TBQH (It's hand held though)


This was actually more of an exercise then anything else. 2,434 tris.


[raging over what it actually is]
Edited by Skidrow925 on May 24, 2012 at 10:39 AM

that poly is standing out very obvious, and is shouting "fix me plz" :)

I know. I plan to rebake my normals one last time before I finish, and I will fix it then. I am just making a list of things to fix before I rebake that way I only have to do it one more time.

1. Anonymous_2009 and someone else both said to add detail around the magazine, so I am trying to decide what to add there.

2. and I need to do something with the grip

3. and I need to fix that face.

4. and there are one or two sort of random details that I need to add here and there

Anything else? if Anyone sees something else please tell me before I rebake the normals.

Once you get everything finalized, could you possibly consider making a variant that replaces the flashlight with an underbarrel grenade launcher?

I don't guess it would be that hard. Any particular reason? you need one for something?

I don't have anything specific in mind at the moment, but I'd noticed that some maps feature assault rifles with secondary grenade launchers in spite of it not actually having one on the model. Plus a grenade launcher just seems like it would come in handy for someone sooner or later.

Edit: The early incarnation of the assault rifle seems to have had an integral magazine-fed grenade launcher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7C65ogSLXM&feature=player_detailpage#t=114s

And if you for some reason feel compelled to recreate anything in that video, that'd be pretty cool too. P:
Edited by Echo77 on May 24, 2012 at 03:45 PM

Tbh an under barrel grenade launcher doesn't really feel like Halo. Unless done in a unique Halo sorta way instead of just default tube with a nade... lol

Apparently it's a canonical thing:

"The M301 40mm Grenade Launcher, also known as the 'forty mike-mike' among troops was a United Nations Space Command weapon designed to fire explosive grenades. It can be attached to the MA5B and MA5C Assault Rifles and NA4/Defoliant Projector." - Halopedia

how many polies do most CE weapons range in?

I'm still not much for grenade launchers under the barrel lol

Thought i would build a battery into the shoulder thingy. (Idk what its called, stock maybe?) not very happy with the general shape of that-any ideas?

I think im going to remodel the mag and give it a more traditional look, especially since all it is right now is a bunch of extrudes and intrudes.

Anyone have any ideas for the second grip? i cant get anything i like there.
currently at 1643 polies and 2069 verts...is that bad for this level of detail? I would (sadly) get rid of the cable if i had to, was really proud of accomplishing that :D





Edited by abkarch on May 24, 2012 at 08:29 PM

Try using real-world weaponry as a reference. I found a few images of man-portable railguns on the internet, so maybe they'll help some.

http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/aliens_papirove_modely/home/ankety/railgun.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fnHjiW4iJAg/TUJBaifZT3I/AAAAAAAAAXE/L3FoPPMX7ZM/s1600/proper_rail_weapon_03.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/310/d/3/Rail_Gun_Rifle_Final_Render_by_ProlificPen.jpg
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg82/scaled.php?server=82&filename=rifle1lo3.jpg&res=landing
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg293/scaled.php?server=293&filename=railgunriflenb9.png&res=landing

Personally, I'd suggest something along the lines of the second design (the one with "14.2mm Linear Motor" printed along the stock).
Edited by Echo77 on May 24, 2012 at 08:51 PM

ok. Im trying right now to think of a way to fit it into the current design (including remodeling the sides of the weapon) without practically restarting the whole thing.

Edited by abkarch on May 24, 2012 at 08:51 PM

Interesting, actually that does sorta make me want to try some kind of grenade launcher. Although if I do it I will wait until after I finish with my normal version.

EDIT:
I am getting ready to bake my final normals, but before I do that I wanted to show my highpoly model and see if anyone thinks I should add anything.





I feel like I am forgetting something, but I can't figure out what. If anyone has advice/opinions/crit/whatever, please feel free to say something.
Edited by Yoda on May 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM

The holes right before the fire exit are misplaced, they should be aligned with the tube

I have no clue what you are talking about.

What holes before what "fire exit" (what the heck is a "fire exit" on a gun anyway?) and what tube are they supposed to be alighned with?

The vents are not lined up with the barrel.

Really.......




Edited by Yoda on May 25, 2012 at 09:09 PM

http://www.wetanz.com/rayguns/
Someone should make these as a set.

http://www.wetanz.com/assets/Uploads/drgpostercollectionalrg.jpg
If we had them as a complete weapon set, it could open up a whole opportunity for space/steampunk styled maps! or at least some of them.
Edited by olly12345 on May 26, 2012 at 09:01 AM

That would be cool.

I am already working on too many projects to take on another, but maybe once I finish up one or two I will do that weapon set.

Woops. my bad

I really need to get into modeling.
I've been meaning too for a while.
Edited by Machinima on May 26, 2012 at 01:30 PM

Well I am pretty much finished with my MA5B. I will probably play around a little bit with the texture here and there (maybe, maybe not). But for the most part this is the final version.





Anyone know of any good OS tutorials? I need to learn how to implement some OS features so that it looks like this in-game.

Yoda, do you plan on releasing that MA5B? Like as in the 3d model? It looks really good! Just wondering, are the scratches bump maps or actually on the raw model?