Tag Loading in Bonobo is already driven by code I generated from tag definitions extracted from the h1 and 2 HEK tools. That's how the tag viewer reads the tags for those games (ie. double click a tag in the treeview to view its contents).

Thanks though, I may take a look at your stuff later.

These definitions contain a lot of hidden fields that the HEK tools don't have included in their definitions. If we went just by what if in the definitions, many extracted tags would be broken.

It's great to see someone finally making some great tools for animation extraction, especially for Halo 3. The problem I'm having and had to fix manually was the turning attack/turning animations. Anything that involved rotational data seemed to be really finicky. I'm assuming you're inheriting the rotation data from the pelvic bone, rather than creating any kind of "root" or "master" bone. There's a few problems with doing it this way, since you're subtracting or adding any kind of root motion or core rotation data with the already adjusted bone rotation. For example, if you were to load any kind of attack right animation and forcefully turned the model by the pelvis bone to the right (by 90 degrees), the animation would look "almost" proper. So it seems like the model itself could be interpreting the rotational data incorrectly based off its local position (in this sense, it faces left instead of forward so maybe the offset is just not agreeing with it.)

If I might suggest, I'd like see what happens if you were to export with a bone containing all the root locomotion data in it, rather than having the pelvis inherit it. Just so the pelvis ins't inheriting everything locomotion/rotation wise (this should stop the jittering too, theoretically speaking). Then again the hunter model had some seriously awful weights, so I wouldn't put it past Bungie to have some faults in their animations too.

If i'm not mistaken, all halos before reach use the pelvis bone as the main parent. The animations have already been made using the pelvis so they will have to be re imported and edited to use the other bone. If i'm correct then that sounds like a major pain to do for each animation. The h3 marine animation graph for example, has a total of 1,041 different animations.

Indeed and the previous halos also have that problem. If anything, maybe some kind of option to export with that bone would be nice.

Someone pointed out an issue where the obfuscator I used injected code to stop the app from working after the trial period.

This wasn't intentional and I wasn't aware the obfuscation did that, so I'll try and get a fix out later.

Everybody gangsta 'til the Halo 3 anim extractor stops working.

First post updated with a new download, sorry about that people.

Is it written in C#?

Thanks for the good laugh.

Dude, what is your deal?

Edit: I might have been a bit out of line.
Edited by SBB_Michelle on Jun 12, 2019 at 12:02 PM

I am just strongly against obfuscation being used in cases like this as I find it very hypocritical. You are more than happy to read information from other more open tools and are also more than happy to reverse engineer the original game, but how DARE anyone even think of touching your stuff, even if only to help them like other sources helped you.

So yes, when the obfuscation backfired on you I find that funny. Other than that I have no issue here, and unlike what someone else may have claimed I'd have nothing bad to say at all.

The source code to read animations like this has been available for almost two years now right here:
https://github.com/HaloMods/HaloContentToolScripts/blob/master/Halo2/h2_anim_extractor_batch2_9.ms

If you think you can do better, then by all means go for it.
Edited by LaikaGlove on Jun 10, 2019 at 08:45 AM
Edited by LaikaGlove on Jun 10, 2019 at 08:45 AM

Giving credit to Gravemind for passing on the news that a animation extraction tool had been released. Something Adjutant had been lacking for a very very long time and while it still is, it's so great to hear that a alternative has been released for the community to use and figure out.

Does this still export to file formats that can be imported into 3ds max? Since I still use it as my primary modeling program, would be really great to know if this will work with it.

Thanks!

@videoman

Been kinda busy lately so I haven't had much time to work on this. But last night I made a little progress on Reach animations:



Still some stuff I need to figure out, but much closer than I was before.

No promises but Halo 4 extraction may not be far behind since it uses a revised version of this codec from reach, I'm not sure how much has changed though.

Its incredible how useful this will be beyond Halo Custom Edition.

I feel... blessed. I never thought something like this would ever be possible.

That Reach animation is looking good. Great work so far!

Honestly can't wait. Here's hoping there's no real issues moving forward!

How is that hypocritical? LaikaGlove spent time researching and reverse engineering the file structures himself, which you even highlighted. He also then spent time coding the tool, so why do you feel entitled to get the source code?

My question to you is, other types of mods such as SPV3 and other popular CE mods/maps, they don't release the source assets for the tags, they don't release bitmaps, models, animations etc. and no one expects them to. Yet there seems to be a common thread around here that source code is a right rather than a privilege. People releasing these tools to the public should be good enough.

I'll admit I chuckled at the obfuscator locking down the tool when the trial ran out but that was more out of the sneakiness of the obfuscator - I didn't even consider it might do that, it could easily happen to anyone.

Trust me I do know the benefits of source code being open for all, but there is also valid reasons for it to be closed off. Its really a developer's choice and should be case by case.

I agree with Limited on this, damn I haven't posted in here in ages.

As a dev at project cartographer we have 90% of our code open sourced, however sometimes obfuscating code or project files is a necessity.

Vaporeon, you should not expect a developer to always show everything they do.

EDIT : Btw, Laika do you have any interest in Halo 2 PC?
EDIT : omg it's actually the 12 anniversary of my sign in date. Talk about coincidences.
Edited by supersniper on Jul 28, 2019 at 11:11 AM
Edited by supersniper on Jul 28, 2019 at 11:13 AM

Amazing work as always

Don't even bother with Halo 4 lol

Like I said a few pages back, I was going to look into compilation for h2v as well. However it looks like the H2Codez guys have that pretty close to working.

Also regardless of what you think of Halo 4 as a game, those animations are no doubt pretty dope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIPG3T3fUhU&t=0m56s
Edited by LaikaGlove on Aug 2, 2019 at 03:51 PM

I'd say go for it! If I ever get access to the Mantis animations I'm 100% going to make a fully functioning gmod addon out of it.

Awesome work by the way, keep up the good stuff.

Edited by Wingblast on Aug 2, 2019 at 05:10 PM

Incredible, It's so amazing to see this after so long. If MCC Halo PC actually ends up cross compatible with custom edition, I might have to hop back into modding and mess around even if just out of curiosity.

I'm resuming some work from a few months ago and I remember coming across this issue. I was trying to get the Sentinel Enforcer from Halo 2 with some animations, and the animations runs, but it does this really weird thing where one of the arms is super stretched out.

https://i.imgur.com/lc7ZdAr.png

I remember reading another post in this thread somewhere to try using the frame edition AMF exporter instead, but it just results in this error.

https://i.imgur.com/vZJPxVB.png

Is there some additional stuff that I should be doing? Sorry, still new to all of this.

@SgtFlex unless you specifically want the bones to be spheres instead of diamonds then the standard AMF script should be fine. There's an option called "SetBoneEnable" - if you untick this the bones will be unlocked from their parent which will make it work better with the animation imports.
If that still doesn't work then check the envelopes and make sure all the skin weights look correct. If that doesn't work then I'm not sure what the issue could be.

Ah, that worked! Thank you!

despite whatever hate halo 4 gets, i would very much like getting H4's animations, especially the assasinations and cutscene animations. There's a lot of good stuff on it

It's been a while. Any updates on Halo Reach animations?

Sorry, I've been kind of busy lately.

Progress has kind of stagnated, I've kind of hit the limit of what I can do with the disassembled game without actually debugging. So I've just been waiting to get into one of the Reach flights on PC to do so.

Unfortunately I haven't been invited to one yet...

Oh man. So are you going to be releasing the full source code for Bonobo? No-one would want a program like this to be lost to time.