Well rip, don't stress yourself by any means, you already did a lot for the people here, I hope you get successful with whatever you have planned by now, wish you luck and thank you for this amazing tool that helped a lot of people.

Does this mean... In a few months some pro will release an every biped from every halo biped pack for non-os and os halo games?

Honestly can't wait to get Reach animation extraction, I'm assuming there'll be more progress once Reach on PC is out?

the question now begs to be asked since MCC is out, any updates on the reach animation stuff? I do remember a comment being made about needing to look at the flights to get any further

No progress to report currently, I'm trying to figure out how to debug the game via cheatengine or ida pro but I can't figure out how to attach the debugger to the haloreach.dll. The only process I see running is the main MCC-Win64-Shipping.exe which doesn't have the code I need to step through.

this might be a weird suggestion, but have you tried hopping on the Halo Mods server? They've got a lot of people who've gotten things to inject into the game correctly through various means. They might have what you need. This might help: https://discord.gg/halomods

Hey sorry Sniper, I was able to figure out debugging shortly after that post. Thanks though.

I was able to make some progress based on my findings, though it probably doesn't look like much compared to my previous post:


You'll notice reduced jitter on the legs especially, which means I have a more accurate algorithm working for decompressing the new animation codec used in reach.

The more technical explanation is that before I was using a spherical linear interpolation algorithm for interpolating between frames. However, the new codec used in reach actually uses a catmull-rom spline curve algorithm for interpolation.

I still have some work ahead of me though, but the holidays may set that work back a bit.

hey man, if you can get that sorted even by sometime in january i'll be happy. enjoy your holidays my dude

First post updated with version 1.0.0.4 with Reach animation extraction, it's not obfuscated so enjoy. There's still a lot I don't like about the code but I simply don't have the time to refactor it at the moment.

Quick example:


Download the latest version here as well for your convenience: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtvYI8x0KxMRhtMV0r2X2GMqLcAycA?e=okOLhU

Wait so does this mean, I can edit my marine model and just import the CE marine's animation into 3DS MAX? Do you still have to apply weights etc?

The patience was worth it! Thanks so much!

This could have been done for years. There's already tools to do this perfectly for CE things

Don't make the same mistakes I did. Just rename the bones. Don't reskin everything. You will more than likely still have to do some tweaking after importing, but that's simple compared to reskinning everything. Plus the more bones your model has, the bigger the tag size will be.

Goodness... Don't tell me you have to re-rig the models by hand even if they're just minor edits...
Edited by Halo CE Noob Modder117 on Jan 17, 2020 at 02:01 AM

Interesting, I took a look and it's definitely my code. Not really sure where the failure is happening yet.

I'm trying to put these animations onto reach characters but it doesnt seem to work. The script will complain about b_node and b_node2 (which i've never seen in a model before?), and then nothing will animate except for the root bones. Any ideas?

Edit: So i got it half working. Ripping from multiple maps helps as far as i've seen, but there's some crazy errors across the board
Edited by R93_Sniper on Jan 11, 2020 at 01:11 AM

For anyone else having similar problems, when importing a model with the Adjutant's AMF importer uncheck "SetBoneEnable". This fixed most of Snipers issues.

I have an update I'm hoping to release soon that fixes an issue when extracting animations from certain maps and fixes extraction of overlay animations.

As for the issues with first person animations, I'm totally at a loss on what's going on there. It's odd because they're close but not quite right. Also they're using an older compression algorithm that was used in halo 2, 3, and odst so technically they should still work...I'm not really sure what Reach is doing additionally and that may take more time to look into.

Finally think I figured out all the issues. I've updated the first post with a new build.

Version 1.0.0.5:

• Fixed crash when extracting animations from certain Reach maps.


• Fixed issues extracting overlay animations from Reach.


• Fixed issues extracting first person animations from Reach.

Download: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtvYI8x0KxMRhtYj8dcOvujABBnyQw?e=fkkZeG

Quick fp animation example:

Edited by LaikaGlove on Jan 13, 2020 at 08:59 PM

Found something while extracting animations for the banshee, seraph or sabre. Same exact error for all 3.

----14/01/2020 7:59:03 PM----
System.Exception: Error extracting model_animation_graph tag objects\vehicles\human\sabre\sabre:

Animation type not supported ---> System.NotSupportedException: Animation type not supported
   at Blam.Assets.Animations.Animation.GetAnimationExtension(Type type, FrameInfoType frameInfoType, Boolean worldRelative)
   at Blam.Games.HaloReach.Tags.model_animation_graph_group.Extract(CacheReader reader, String path)
   at Blam.Games.Game.ExtractCacheIndexItemSource(CacheIndexItem cacheIndexItem, String path)
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at Bonobo.ViewModel.MainViewModel.ExtractSource(Object parameter)
   at Bonobo.RelayCommand`1.Execute(T parameter)
   at Bonobo.RelayCommand`1.System.Windows.Input.ICommand.Execute(Object parameter)
   at MS.Internal.Commands.CommandHelpers.CriticalExecuteCommandSource(ICommandSource commandSource, Boolean userInitiated)
   at System.Windows.Controls.MenuItem.InvokeClickAfterRender(Object arg)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

It seems to not like the reach vehicle roll/evade animations.

Interesting, looks like those animations have a new type of frame info not in the previous games. I'll take a look tonight.

...So now that this is a thing, can we expect to see someone create a huge tag pack with fully rigged and animated Halo2/3/ODST/REACH bipeds, vehicles and weapons for use in CE?

And no I'm not talking about the already existing ancient buggy knock-offs and OS junk. I'm talking real ported newer Halo game assets fully compatible with stock CE.

I get this error when trying to export the Halo Reach first person magnum animations:
so far I've been able to successfully export the DMR, sniper and shotgun animations, but the magnum fails on all of the .map files I've tried.

Edit:
here's what was in debug.log, if that helps

System.Exception: Error extracting model_animation_graph tag objects\characters\spartans\fp\weapons\pistol\fp_magnum\fp_magnum:

Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index ---> System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
   at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRangeException(ExceptionArgument argument, ExceptionResource resource)
   at Blam.Games.Game.GetStringIDValue(Int32 section, Int32 index)
   at Blam.Tags.StringID.Read(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.FieldCollection.ReadPointerFields(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.FieldCollection.Read(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.Block`1.Read(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.FieldCollection.ReadPointerFields(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.FieldCollection.Read(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.Block`1.Read(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.FieldCollection.ReadPointerFields(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Tags.FieldCollection.Read(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Games.Game.ReadCacheIndexItem(CacheIndexItem cacheIndexItem)
   at Blam.Games.HaloReach.Tags.model_animation_graph_group.GetRenderModel(CacheReader reader, model_flags flag)
   at Blam.Games.HaloReach.Tags.model_animation_graph_group.GetRenderModelNodes(CacheReader reader)
   at Blam.Games.HaloReach.Tags.model_animation_graph_group.Extract(CacheReader reader, String path)
   at Blam.Games.Game.ExtractCacheIndexItemSource(CacheIndexItem cacheIndexItem, String path)
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at Bonobo.ViewModel.MainViewModel.ExtractSource(Object parameter)
   at Bonobo.RelayCommand`1.Execute(T parameter)
   at Bonobo.RelayCommand`1.System.Windows.Input.ICommand.Execute(Object parameter)
   at MS.Internal.Commands.CommandHelpers.CriticalExecuteCommandSource(ICommandSource commandSource, Boolean userInitiated)
   at System.Windows.Controls.MenuItem.InvokeClickAfterRender(Object arg)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

Edited by Wingblast on Jan 15, 2020 at 02:31 PM
Edited by Wingblast on Jan 15, 2020 at 02:59 PM
Edited by Wingblast on Jan 15, 2020 at 03:02 PM

If you're looking to try to get stuff working with Stock CE, you may be sorely dissapointed

Hmm, so this one seems tricky. Most of these extraction issues seem to stem from the fact that in Reach it's no longer necessary to have perfectly matching node graphs between a model and an animation. The issue with the magnum in particular here is that the render_model itself has an extra node named "bullet" that isn't in the first person animation graph.

I'll have to think about how to handle that and it may require some reworking of how I'm getting the related model tag for a given animation...

In other news I think I fixed the previous issue reported with the banshee animations, it looks like Reach has a new frame info type (dx,dy,dz,dyaw,dpitch,droll) where it can track rotational motion of the root node in all 3 axis.
Edited by LaikaGlove on Jan 15, 2020 at 06:22 PM

Wow I wish I still had the time and motivation to port them reach elite animations. Maybe someday.

I know this has been asked a few times, but will the source code ever be released? It'd be incredibly useful to have the methods for reading the animation format so we can extract to formats besides just .jmm/.jmo/etc.

I'm curious if there'll be support for Halo 4 animation extraction sometime this year? Reach animation support is good enough for me but I'm curious about it.

I'm in the middle of a big refactor of the code to clean things up for a code release, but it will take some time. What other formats do you want supported?

Also yes I do plan to eventually support halo 4 animations, which may again take some time to reverse engineer because there's another new codec compression implemented for that game. I haven't looked at it but I have a hunch it won't be as difficult as Reach was, but we'll see.

Specifically, I'm looking for .smd export support. I'm currently working on a little personal project to import Halo viewmodels to the Source Engine, and obviously porting the animations is part of that. I actually have a semi-working Lua script up and running to do so that I wrote up, but official support would be a big plus, needless to say.

Ah, alright. Well, I hope the process won't be too difficult, I can wait for it. I'm also curious about Halo 5 animation extraction, but Adjutant doesn't support browsing through Halo 5 stuff so eh.
Edited by Devarture on Jan 21, 2020 at 07:11 PM

good lord just convert them yourself

there's no way a direct smd export is gonna be compile ready and in the right orientation for view models



Please don't bother, Halo 4 is so ugly.

“Please don’t do halo 4 I don’t like the way it looks and no one else may want to extract animations from it”


Love the tool, thank you for your work on Bonobo LaikaGlove.

Halo 4 easily has some of the best animations around



Incorrect
Edited by R93_Sniper on Jan 24, 2020 at 07:49 PM

Don't feed the trolls, it's useless

You're showing your age