
LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 11:50 AM
Msg. 1 of 31
Question about the Universal Interface- Coluseum II is included in the UI but the original Coluseum isn't? Why?
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StormUndBlackbird
Joined: Oct 27, 2011
https://youtube.com/StormUndBlackbird
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 11:58 AM
Msg. 2 of 31
Coluseum II is basically a remake of it... for the better. Coluseum was 10 times as short and sucked.
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 12:03 PM
Msg. 3 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: StormUndBlackbird Coluseum II is basically a remake of it... for the better. Coluseum was 10 times as short and sucked. Well, I think a lot of the maps in the UI suck- but if the intention is "Universal" then the first should be included anyway. Just my opinion.
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altis94
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 12:30 PM
Msg. 4 of 31
I'm guessing the UI had a bit of quality control, there probably were too many maps so he had to choose the best maybe? Idk.
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 12:37 PM
Msg. 5 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: altis94 I'm guessing the UI had a bit of quality control, there probably were too many maps so he had to choose the best maybe? Idk. The quality control wasn't up to par if such a glitchy mess as RPSP got in then, which has massive input lag. Or, it was simply inconsistent and biased.
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StormUndBlackbird
Joined: Oct 27, 2011
https://youtube.com/StormUndBlackbird
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 01:05 PM
Msg. 6 of 31
I'm pretty sure the author wouldn't wanna have anyone knowing the existance of Coluseum.
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 01:11 PM
Msg. 7 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: StormUndBlackbird I'm pretty sure the author wouldn't wanna have anyone knowing the existance of Coluseum. Well, that's silly considering the only way to get it is by searching Coluseum II on this site and the original appears regardless. Why not rename it Coluseum Revision or just Coluseum and take down the old one if that's the case?
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BipolarAurora
Joined: Aug 16, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 01:41 PM
Msg. 8 of 31
Maybe because the original just sucked and the author wanted to improve on it? That's why the idea of remakes even exist.
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 01:47 PM
Msg. 9 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: BipolarAurora Maybe because the original just sucked and the author wanted to improve on it? That's why the idea of remakes even exist. I get that but- The Thing 1982 isn't called The Thing From Another World II. If it was that would be stupid, just like the name Coluseum II is stupid if the author intends to ignore the original's existence then why would it be called Coluseum II- which suggests there is a Coluseum I? Edited by LuciTheAlien on Aug 25, 2016 at 08:26 PM
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Pepzee
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
Retired Halo Modder
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 01:59 PM
Msg. 10 of 31
I know what you are trying to argue here...
As somebody who worked with the creator of UUI, I know MoooseGuy cherrypicked what maps he wanted to appear that he thought were good enough.
Don't like it, don't use it. Nobody is going to change it.
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EtchyaSketch
Joined: Apr 11, 2014
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 02:38 PM
Msg. 11 of 31
Dude you need to chill.
Again these are maps, made by people for fun. You can cherry pick all you want but whats done is done. The author wanted it his way and he did it as he wants to. Thats that.
We get it you think 90% of the maps on the UUI is bad. No need to parrot yourself every time you post.
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DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014
Ho ho hooooly doodle!
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 03:01 PM
Msg. 12 of 31
Etchya, did you just assume Luci's gender?
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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
The length of your life depends on my aim.
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 03:48 PM
Msg. 13 of 31
This is like the second thread on the UUI by the same guy......
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Halonimator
Joined: Dec 15, 2014
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 04:30 PM
Msg. 14 of 31
just play some tsce with unfinished assets from spv3.
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Alex
Joined: Apr 22, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 04:39 PM
Msg. 15 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker This is like the second thread on the UUI by the same guy...... It's Dsalimander trolling
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Halonimator
Joined: Dec 15, 2014
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 04:49 PM
Msg. 16 of 31
play some planet flood a-b and you will never play HPC again
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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
The length of your life depends on my aim.
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 04:52 PM
Msg. 17 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: HyperAlexQuote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker This is like the second thread on the UUI by the same guy...... It's Dsalimander trolling I don't think it is.
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 08:23 PM
Msg. 18 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: Pepzee
As somebody who worked with the creator of UUI, I know MoooseGuy cherrypicked what maps he wanted to appear that he thought were good enough.
So basically. Quote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlienQuote: --- Original message by: altis94 I'm guessing the UI had a bit of quality control, there probably were too many maps so he had to choose the best maybe? Idk. The quality control wasn't up to par if such a glitchy mess as RPSP got in then, which has massive input lag. Or, it was simply inconsistent and biased. The UI is a mess and needs fixing.
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EtchyaSketch
Joined: Apr 11, 2014
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 09:33 PM
Msg. 19 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlien The UI is a mess and needs fixing. Use the default UI and do this. http://hce.halomaps.org/?nid=386 Have fun. Stop posting
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 09:52 PM
Msg. 20 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketchQuote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlien The UI is a mess and needs fixing. Use the default UI and do this. http://hce.halomaps.org/?nid=386 Have fun. Stop posting No. (:
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Halonimator
Joined: Dec 15, 2014
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 11:16 PM
Msg. 21 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlienQuote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketchQuote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlien The UI is a mess and needs fixing. Use the default UI and do this. http://hce.halomaps.org/?nid=386 Have fun. Stop posting No. (: do it type game_difficulty_set impossible then type map_name "the map file" Edited by Halonimator on Aug 25, 2016 at 11:18 PM
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 25, 2016 11:34 PM
Msg. 22 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: HalonimatorQuote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlienQuote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketchQuote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlien The UI is a mess and needs fixing. Use the default UI and do this. http://hce.halomaps.org/?nid=386 Have fun. Stop posting No. (: do it type game_difficulty_set impossible then type map_name "the map file" Edited by Halonimator on Aug 25, 2016 at 11:18 PM I'm aware of this option. Thank you for your comment.
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Tech
Joined: May 9, 2015
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 02:02 AM
Msg. 23 of 31
RPSP doesn't have input lag, It's just because you have marine animations. You flinch.
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tanju77
Joined: Mar 12, 2016
Doing moderator's job
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 04:52 AM
Msg. 24 of 31
Moooseguy forgot to add many good and kool Sp maps- covenant's canyon by wolfgrave, project subterfuge by gamma927 and someone else, Takeback by spartan717, etc.
Can someone add these? Plz? <3
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 06:20 AM
Msg. 25 of 31
Project Subterfuge was never released as a final product.
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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012
The length of your life depends on my aim.
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 10:52 AM
Msg. 26 of 31
Ugh.
Alright kiddies.
Let's make an observation here.
The UUI for all intensive purposes is designed to bring together the best of the communities creations (according to moosey) all into one interface.
This happens (usually) once every year in which moosey updates the UUI with edited features and more content.
For the past 2 years? This has been the daily norm.
So as you can probably imagine requesting patches and certain features to be culled or augmented isn't going to be successful given that:
A) Moosey may or may not agree with your opinions.
B) The UUI is updated ONCE a year and not incrementally.
Now let's take a moment to absorb this and move on with our lives.
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 12:14 PM
Msg. 27 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: Tech RPSP doesn't have input lag, It's just because you have marine animations. You flinch. It still feels terrible. Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Project Subterfuge was never released as a final product. A lot of maps in the Universal Interface still hold "beta" to their name regardless. Quote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker
So as you can probably imagine requesting patches and certain features to be culled or augmented isn't going to be successful given that:
A) Moosey may or may not agree with your opinions.
B) The UUI is updated ONCE a year and not incrementally.
Then the answer seems simple, I'll contact the creator if I can.
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 08:56 PM
Msg. 28 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: LuciTheAlienQuote: --- Original message by: Tech RPSP doesn't have input lag, It's just because you have marine animations. You flinch. It still feels terrible. Off topic a lil bit, but I've always considered a remake of this campaign. For what it's worth, it's enjoyable enough. Could be made so much better though.
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Pepzee
Joined: Sep 9, 2010
Retired Halo Modder
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 10:17 PM
Msg. 29 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Off topic a lil bit, but I've always considered a remake of this campaign. For what it's worth, it's enjoyable enough. Could be made so much better though. Practically everything would need to be redone, BSPs, encounters, tags. It would be a massive task. How on earth would you do it? Heck, the same thing could be said about the Coluseum series. Edited by Pepzee on Aug 26, 2016 at 10:17 PM
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Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010
Former biped rigger & FP animator
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 11:00 PM
Msg. 30 of 31
Quote: --- Original message by: PepzeeQuote: --- Original message by: Spartan314 Off topic a lil bit, but I've always considered a remake of this campaign. For what it's worth, it's enjoyable enough. Could be made so much better though. Practically everything would need to be redone, BSPs, encounters, tags. It would be a massive task. How on earth would you do it? Therein lies the problem 
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LuciTheAlien
Joined: Aug 20, 2016
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Posted: Aug 26, 2016 11:04 PM
Msg. 31 of 31
Nothing ventured, nothing gained though. I'd support a remake, the idea is solid- execution is a little lacking.
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