https://youtu.be/Wp5dOJQSnkE?t=6m43s The date of that speech from Halsey is from July 7th, 2589. Halo 4 takes place in 2557, and i mean, the way Halsey is in 343's halo, (Missing an arm, helping covenant, being charged with crimes, etc) theres no way that speech is happening. Nice job 343. Made that pretty important speech meaningless.
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 1, 2015 at 05:20 PM

You don't know where they're going to take the story. Nobody does but 343. I'm sure they haven't forgotten that part of Halo: Reach.

Chief is about to become a public enemy to the UNSC as well. Wherever it goes from there, I'm sure Halsey will be involved in some way. They are most definitely not likely to kill her off anytime soon.

Considering that's an interior monologue, I can see that being feasible since Reach was Terraformed in 2582 iirc. So long as Halsey herself doesn't die until then its 100% workable. Hell it'd be interesting to see if in a future halo game (halo 6 could even take place during that time frame), Halsey finds Noble 6's helmet, recognizes it, and then gives that speech.

I give it until Halo 12.

of the countless examples, you choose this? WP

halo 1 only grunts speak english
halo 2 elites, brutes, grunts, and prophets speak english, even when no humans are around

where is your god now bungie

I'm sure a certain Halo 1 legendary ending explains the change.

an elite bangs johnson?

it's active translation technology that's developed through each new iteration of MJOLNIR armor. Cortana played a major role in deciphering all of it

In CEA, Johnson seduces the Elite.

Halo Reach isn't even canon doe
Edited by Oskarmandude on Apr 4, 2015 at 06:59 AM

Speak for your self.

So I wonder what the next phantasmal update will bring.

(Apart from the crushing sense of your childhood being ripped apart tag by tag.)


Think I should join a union or sutin. Gotta channel all dis 343 h8.

nevermind.
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 2, 2015 at 09:46 PM

343 Overall is making Halo better.
I think i have had a change of heart mainly with 343i because the changes are the kinds of changes Halo 2 made the difference is i grew up with Halos 1, 2 and 3 but now i just have to move on...

I was never competitive about Halo in fact its my least favorite part of Halo 5 is its Hm...
MLG N0 SC0PE 360 MLG!!!!!11111 hm... that and if they remove that and all the focus on the HM!
HOLY C**P POWER WEPONS!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 HM! that would make the multiplayer the best in the series.

M8. 343i is only good for re-hashing pre-made games with lens flares.

>the only people who actually believe 343 is making halo better is reddit trash

this brings me much relief

This.

http://www.halopedia.org/Category:Canon
TL:DR: The canon category is full of books.

fixed that for you

also thank you echo for using the superior halo wikia :)
Edited by Bungie LLC on Apr 19, 2015 at 04:02 PM

You mean the one true Halo wiki.

halopedia GOAT

halopedia > every other inferior wikia

also milkman, how on earth do you reason that. you know that the games purposely sacrifice accuracy and complexity in order to remain comfortable and ambiguous to the normal market audience, right? books are a glimpse into what the "real" universe is like

The books are official and all the plot points remain as part of the universe. Unfortunately, Bungie didn't care what prior games or books declared for the universe and went around retconning them at every possible turn. 343 has been far more consistent with cannon than Bungie.

343 guilty spark was brought back to life by oni, and also he is the digitized version of the reincarnation of forthencho who was the human rival of the master chief's prior incarnation's evil twin 100,000 years ago. the new covenant is led by a man who realized one day that there was a star map on his belt that he happened to be wearing, which told him how to get to a bigger star map, which told him how to get to a planet where he waited for 3 years until halo 4 could advance the plot. the odsts from odst are dead for some reason, and the ones that weren't dead are spartans now. halo canon is a glorious nightmare

I forgot to mention, everything post-h3 is hot garbage. that includes karen travis's pants-on-head stupid "le dank kilo-five ONI CIA" series and the even more ridiculous forerunner primordium junk.

also, as far as canonical handling: Bungie > 343i

refer to this: http://halostory.bungie.org/staten102204.html

second section. everything up to the point of microsoft shekeling bungie into making ODST and Reach and the 343 takeover was ok. of course now, it is a nightmare

RIP Staten and Nylund
Edited by Bungie LLC on Apr 19, 2015 at 05:31 PM

Personally I was one to actually like ODST's story and setup. I liked the whole Film Noir setup that it had going for itself and I think in that respect it played up pretty well. Maybe not worth that initial pricetag but hey its pretty cheap now anyways.

If that's your argument, then your argument is null because the people who help to write the books are those who write the in-game storyline.

Bungie had a piece on this. The TLDR of it was that Books are canon, games are canon, newest game overwrites the canon of anything prior.

Put down the thesaurus.
And the bible.


I thought my take was more comedic :p
Edited by EtchyaSketch on Apr 20, 2015 at 02:14 AM

"Stop using big words," probably isn't quite as persuasive as something like, "You can give straightforward answers to things like this instead of trying to overcomplicate the issue with philosophical musings."
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 20, 2015 at 01:26 AM

Screw grammar university.

I'll just keep reading sparkies posts from now on. :P

Note that I never said "Give an answer without an explanation," just "Be straightforward." You can give a direct response to the subject without rambling from slavery to suicide to religion to culinary affairs and only then remembering that we're talking about Halo canon and making a comment that seems to have any connection to that topic. If you ask me why having a multi-barreled tank doesn't improve your odds of penetrating a tank's hull, I would tell you that penetration isn't cumulative (because a round that can't penetrate is a round that can't penetrate and trying again isn't going to change the outcome), I wouldn't lead you through some spiel about the media, the origins of armor, Spongebob, unstoppable forces and immovable objects, and then make an offhanded comment about why multi-barrel tanks are bad.

When I say "Be straightforward" I'm not saying "Give a stupidly simple response and make no effort to justify it," I'm saying "If you cut the fat, it's easier to get to the meat of the conversation."
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In regards to changing the storyline after the book is published and nullifying what was, HA10 put MA5Cs on the Autumn. Halo 4 brought back the Forerunners that had been declared extinct in all previous media and introduced the Infinity and a whole branch of new Spartans with improved armor so soon after the Human-Covenant War that it's like the struggle to fend off an inexorably sweeping alien juggernaut for a couple of decades didn't even manage to dent the UNSC's wallet. Things like that kinda seem to contradict what's been previously established.
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 20, 2015 at 11:50 AM

This is one of the most stupid examples that one could give about 343i ruining the canon.

I wasn't listing canon-ruiners (like Forerunner predestination of all of humanity's supposed achievements, turning the story from one of underdogs prevailing against impossible odds to one of a chosen people succeeding because they were destined to succeed), I was pointing out the first two apparent contradictions that came to mind.
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM

The game came first, and though the book writer had close a connection with Microsoft and bungie, a lot of development teams shared Microsoft personnel back when the first few launch title games were still being made on various alpha xdks.

Nylund's name pops up in a few other launch title games. Simple simple simple

But since bungie BS'd the halo story for their first game, the games ultimately get to decide where the story goes
Edited by OrangeJuice on Apr 20, 2015 at 01:11 PM

My comment was not directed to you, but to Megasean and his Halsey example.