Nvm I'm dum
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 26, 2015 at 03:39 AM

Seconded.
They're all the same person probably so banning a few IPs would be nice.

Few things

1. In any current public builds, it doesn't. Will it and/or can it? Sure, but that's not the point I was making. Also I did say that the whole unlocking part was due to it not being inherent to the base game, However I also stated that in a point that I wasn't 100% on that. You can prove me wrong on that and I could literally just go about it as "oh ok" and be on with my life. On that note, I'm also referring more to the retail game, not Dewrito/ElDorito
2. The point I was making was by him saying that elites are/can be put into the game, I was also pointing out that its unsure as to how they'll be operating in the base game. Considering the fact that the Spartan armors actually add stats, I wouldn't be surprised if they did some noticeable stat editing with the elites too.
3. I haven't seen or heard of firefight being in the actual game. Plus as I recall there's a LOT of unused assets tossed into halo online, including things like the Ark holograms. Is that enough for me to say "The Ark campaign mission: Confirmed"? Nope, not at all. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of stuff gets scrapped or removed anyhow.
4. Its also not supposed to be out anywhere except Russia. From what I've understood, the whole transferring for those outside of Russia goes against the NDA that comes with the acceptance into the closed alpha, and was followed by Microsoft's whole damage control piece. So by that, yes that entire setup is still illegal. Your "more than the public eye" point is rather irrelevant because that's just about as justified as SS' remarks of extraction, except he's proven he's gotten everything set up. For the rest of that statement its worded in a way that I don't quite understand, so you'll need to clear up what you're saying.



Third'd



Our 40+GB of data would tell you to shut the hell up.
Edited by R93_Sniper on Apr 26, 2015 at 04:02 AM

Yes let me clarify, we aren't stealing anything from them technically it is a free game afterall so I don't know how you'd be able to pirate something free.

But nobody wants to combat that so everyone will follow M$'s DCMA claims and all that.

I'd also like to add _emoose_ is definitely not a troll, the other emoose is definitely a troll.

Edited by no1dead on Apr 26, 2015 at 04:57 AM
Edited by no1dead on Apr 26, 2015 at 04:58 AM

can confirm

Where is it. Oh wait nobody other than the people working on it can see it. Add to that Installation 01, and Glassed from my quick search are not released either. Seriously games which aren't even out yet in any forum are not by a long shot valid points on why Halo Online we should argue about the quality of Halo Online.

That's like me saying GTA V is crap because of the 3 fan made games are better.

Adding to my first point the post portrays Halo Online as a hacky car, and the 3 indie games as a concept car are literally what it is, no amount of videos or "gameplay" will are going to prove to me that is how the game will be when it comes out.

Look at Watch_Dogs that was not the same as its gameplay footage from E3 or Destiny same with that. You could have made those (meaning the gameplay videos for the 3 Halo Games) videos as CGI not saying you did, but it is definitely possible.

Halo Online is in our hands Project Contingency, Installation 01, and Glassed I can't play them right now, and neither can alot of other people so they don't matter to this conversation, you could have the high-res assets to Halo 3/4/5 and if I can't see or download them then I can't believe you.

What you say is off of your word, there's actual downloadable files for Halo Online that anyone can access.
Edited by no1dead on Apr 26, 2015 at 05:01 AM

I wasn't making a reference to halo online in that specific quote (which I guess makes it a bit offtopic but eh?), but at the same point realistically, Halo online isn't released either. There's a leaked version of it out, yes, as well as the closed alpha, but it isn't released.

As for the hacky car, look at the content that's actually in the game as is right now. Its a amalgamation of content from a bunch of different halo games tossed into the halo 3 engine, and quite frankly it looks really out of place. That analogy is pretty spot on if you ask me. However you're right about the concept car, because until gameplay is shown, you don't even have anything past concept.

I'll probably concede to the whole watch_dogs/destiny bit, as I wasn't really paying attention to either during their dev cycle.

To the last two segments, the difference I was continually making is that I refer to the retail version. Also, in my example, ShadowSpartan still to this day hasn't released his tools and/or results of the tools. He has, however, shown off that he can do these things (along with CAD). I01 is being worked on and showing content being made, Contingency is doing the same, though im not sure what glassed is doing. You're also pulling a point that im bringing to somebody else and trying to input it as if it was correlated to your own argument, which its not. Following your logic, that entire line of conversation is completely irrelevant.

You are all super autistic! Cept you mega!

You don't get your point across by calling someone a d******.

Say all you want but Halo: Online is a hack job. In all areas.

How can they be hacking halo online?
Edited by r3poser on Apr 26, 2015 at 07:06 AM

I said "hack" as in its just a bunch things put together to make a "Halo" game.

Halo online tag editor is improving.

Dark Code just released something that allows forge saving.

Darkc0de where can we see WIP?
Edited by Caesar on Apr 26, 2015 at 10:09 AM

I'm sorry I just can't stand idiotic posts about creating tags from scratch and this so super awesome "editing kit" Darkcode is "supposedly" gonna create. As it is, this tag editor is nothing more than Entity or Assembly with a different UI and about 1/8 of the features.

But please do tell me....how is Darkcode going to create a command or UI compiler tool to create new tags? Is he going to replicate Guerilla to spit out new headers, padding, chunk fields etc from just pure will power? The community as a whole including Kornman has tried to get custom assets from scratch for Halo 2 for us, but gave up cause the work behind it was not simple nor did everything work.

Unless there is code laying around from the Alpha that includes segments of the format interchange for tags, you will not be seeing compiling assets from scratch. As it is, all I can compile from scratch is a render_model, collision model, physics_model as well as the base assets supported for Halo 2 PC. If Darkcode is so great and can pull off from scratch compiled tags...let's see him do it for Halo 2 PC. Surely an older engine should be simple since the engine is well documented much more than a new variant used in Halo Online.

You are introducing a red herring. The fact that GFWL ruined Halo 2 Vista has nothing to do with TwinReaper's argument.

Halo 2 was completely locked down I think it was impossible for kornman and others to make their own kit from scratch.

I wish there was.

It's the first time I see Moot getting mad at someone... I guess you surpassed the limit

I never thought you would return.

History has shown these things never work, convince me, CONVINCE US that these things are happening rather then pulling out a "tag editor" that is just a GUI every time someone says something

Mootjuh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEFk42sejRQ

I used this in a halo online video...
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 26, 2015 at 02:32 PM

your entire argument is "Eldorito this" and "Darkcode that", wherein you fail to realize the entire basis of the argument is coming from the official version, not this illegal hacked (or as no1dead said, modded) version of it. Seriously, learn to read the arguments you're trying to post yourself against.

Unity 5 is best plebs.

seems that there are a lot of little kids on the irc that are content on ruining reputations.

http://agil.crdnl.me/

seems i have an imposter XD

their community seems to be even more toxic than ours? (if thats even possible)

the only thing i managed to get our of the last hour spent on the irc chat as randomperson is that they are definately not a freindly community, and that the eldewrito devs are working on a plugin system. which is intruiging

They announced that eldewrido will have halo 3 campaign!

wha

Where do I begin..... You obviously have no understanding of the GFWL platform to make such a silly comment. The GFWL service was used as an "Activation" platform for the game. The service processed your product key then linked it directly to you XBL account. Live is also present in the code and is what offers the online functionality for friends, hosting and serverlists.

Also, the game being locked down has nothing to do with creating an editing kit from scratch. Do you even know how to theorize a programming model to emulate/interchange raw data into a propriotary format such as the ones we find with the Blam! Engine?

Kornman, myself, Xerax, Xbox 7887 and countless others couldnt extend H2V simply because there was too much missing in terms of base code. Animations for example....we have no idea where to obtain the codec for compiling the key frame animations, or exporting them into a base format that Tool would be able to use. yes all base files are normally a jms variant, but there is more to it than that.

Halo 2 wasnt locked to Vista. What it was locked to, was a fully functioning DX10 environment, which XP couldnt support fully. Had a team successfully gotten a port of DX10 running fully on XP, H2V would have worked 100%.

In the end, all these things didn't kill H2V. It was time that killed it. Not enough players wanted to.stick it out long enough to see what could be done with it. Over the last 5 yeats, I and the H2MT have done massive work on Halo and pumped out fantastic content. Sadly noone seems interested, and even 5 years ago people didnt have interest.

Halo CE survived as long as it did thanks to OS and a tight knit group of a community that it had 15 years ago. Halo 2 wasn't really welcomed with opened arms, and the community wasnt even an 1/8th the size CE has/had.

Yes halo 2 did had the time but everyone hate working on it because it had a bad port.


With halo online everyone is working on it because it's going to be our future halo.



The question is what if darkcode made the editor closer to halo custom edition. Would you happy what the community did?
Edited by Caesar on Apr 26, 2015 at 06:36 PM

Halo online is not bad port it just needs optimising, moving on to editor. What if it did worked out well that you wanted?

Thank You!

@Caesar if it did happen I would make the immediate switch. But it isn't happening yet.

@karmapro you idiot he said it isn't being made right now!
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Apr 26, 2015 at 06:48 PM

its better of you guys focus on fixing halo online before making editor......

A car that exists and is in your possession is better than looking at pictures of a glorified 3d render of a car, regardless of how good it looks.

"One in my hand is worth two in the bush"