Well if replacing the Mongeese is all you're going to do, I can't say I'm not disappointed.
There was a guy a while back by the name of grunt_eater (I think he was predominantly a scriptor) that was working on a better version of Valhalla. If you're wanting to improve the map I'd suggest taking inspiration from his list.
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=44227
Last time he logged into the forums was nearly half a year ago so I don't think his version is going to be released.

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6207 - Valhalla
http://www.mediafire.com/download/g5a6ykauwc1788j/mongoose.rar - Mongoose

It'd be cool if the map supported king and oddball and juggernaut and stuff. I feel bad for asking/suggesting but still. It's kind of a big deal.



Yeah I like his ideas. Especially the better fusion coils.
I would like to do the stuff he mentioned, but I can't get sapien to work. >:( I'm mad about that. Hopefully if Zeus comes out, I can do this and not have to ask for help.

Edited by Nanou2 on Feb 12, 2015 at 07:30 PM

Don't rely on Zeus. (Not saying that it's an unreliable program, but this issue itself is minimal.)
And from the looks of things, you still haven't posted your debug.

Hmm yeah I guess.

There is no debug. I can't see it. It's not there.

I tried opening up Danger Canyon's scenario file and the exact same thing happened, so it isn't the map. I'm using Windows 8/8.1 and aero theme isn't disabled because I don't think you can. Would that be the problem?
Edited by Nanou2 on Feb 12, 2015 at 11:21 PM

You don't see this?

run as admin

no it's like completely not there, I even tried searching for it.
I seriously have no idea what happened.

When I run as admin, my .scenario file isn't there

Ah ha.

Ok, did you run hek+ as admin when you extracted tags?

Run sapien as admin. Reach this location on your pc %LocalAppData%\VirtualStore

You should find the scenario there.

For future reference... run everything HEK related as admin. Be it Guerilla, Sapien, CMD, whatever.

Okay. I extracted everything as an admin and it didn't show up again.

So I typed in %LocalAppData%\VirtualStore & it came up. But when I tried to open it it said "You tried to open a non-scenario tag. Bad!"

Any ideas? Keep in mind it was the valhalla.scenario file, so it was in fact a scenario file. I don't know why it is telling me this.


EDIT: It did, however, give me a debug :D



02.08.15 15:25:41 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
02.08.15 15:25:41 reference function: _write_to_error_file
02.08.15 15:25:41 reference address: 401b13
02.08.15 15:25:41 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
02.08.15 15:25:42 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
02.08.15 15:25:42 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
02.08.15 15:25:42 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes


02.08.15 15:27:36 sapien pc 01.00.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
02.08.15 15:27:36 reference function: _write_to_error_file
02.08.15 15:27:36 reference address: 401b13
02.08.15 15:27:36 Couldn't read map file './sapienbeta.map'
02.08.15 15:27:36 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
02.08.15 15:27:37 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
02.08.15 15:27:37 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
02.08.15 15:27:39 WARNING: 8 clusters in structure_bsp levels\valhalla\valhalla have no background sound or sound environment.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.08.15 15:27:39 local player 0, weapon (0x0), deleted unexpectedly
02.08.15 15:27:39 EAX: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EBX: 0x1148C801
02.08.15 15:27:39 ECX: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EDX: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EDI: 0x0018BE08
02.08.15 15:27:39 ESI: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EBP: 0x0018BCE0
02.08.15 15:27:39 ESP: 0x0018BCD4
02.08.15 15:27:39 EIP: 0x776BDF8C, C2 08 00 90 ?????
02.08.15 15:27:39 EXCEPTION halt in \halopc\haloce\source\physics\physics.c,#390: <no reason given>

Edited by Nanou2 on Feb 13, 2015 at 06:12 PM

02.08.15 15:27:39 EAX: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EBX: 0x1148C801
02.08.15 15:27:39 ECX: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EDX: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EDI: 0x0018BE08
02.08.15 15:27:39 ESI: 0x00000000
02.08.15 15:27:39 EBP: 0x0018BCE0
02.08.15 15:27:39 ESP: 0x0018BCD4
02.08.15 15:27:39 EIP: 0x776BDF8C, C2 08 00 90 ?????

I'm pretty sure this is a sign that you have a corrupted tag.

can you open tutorial.scenario?

No I can't. I open Danger Canyon too, but it says the same thing.
What tag could it possibly be if it is happening in default maps?

When ripping maps with hek+, did you have checked extract to folder names or similar. You should have that checked.

And overwrite should not be checked.
Did you maybe overwrite something ?

I don't know.

F**ck it, I'm going to wait for Zeus to be completed.

If you can't even use the original HEK how do you expect to use Zeus?

I recieved the same thing, just never bothered posting it.

I should mention that the BSP uses scripts from kirby according to the read me.



02.13.15 22:47:08 a hobo pc 01.01.00.0609 ----------------------------------------------
02.13.15 22:47:08 reference function: _write_to_error_file
02.13.15 22:47:08 reference address: 401b13
02.13.15 22:47:08 Couldn't read map file './a_hobobeta.map'
02.13.15 22:47:08 CreateDevice succeeded with refresh rate = 0
02.13.15 22:47:08 Sound card doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements. Disabling hardware option.
02.13.15 22:47:09 Increasing sound decompression buffer size to 1048576 bytes
02.13.15 22:47:14 WARNING: 8 clusters in structure_bsp levels\valhalla\valhalla have no background sound or sound environment.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
02.13.15 22:47:14 local player 0, weapon (0x0), deleted unexpectedly
02.13.15 22:47:14 EAX: 0x00000000
02.13.15 22:47:14 EBX: 0x00000001
02.13.15 22:47:14 ECX: 0x00000000
02.13.15 22:47:14 EDX: 0x00000000
02.13.15 22:47:14 EDI: 0x0018F180
02.13.15 22:47:14 ESI: 0x00000000
02.13.15 22:47:14 EBP: 0x0018F058
02.13.15 22:47:14 ESP: 0x0018F04C
02.13.15 22:47:14 EIP: 0x771AB30C, C2 08 00 90 ?????
02.13.15 22:47:14 EXCEPTION halt in \halopc\haloce\source\sound\sound_manager.c,#3304: gain>=0.f && gain<=1.f

Tutorials. And it isn't that I can't use it, the program is just being african.



Ok well that's something, what does that mean for me?
Edited by Nanou2 on Feb 16, 2015 at 02:40 AM

I got that error several times in sapien while opening.. just about any .scenario tag. From what I have learned form Sparky there is a invalid gain value in one of your .sound tags. How did I fix it you may ask? All I did is just restart my computer. If that doesn't work then you may have to check every .sound tag that is attached to the .scenario.