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Z T Requiem
Joined: Jul 10, 2014

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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 12:02 PM    Msg. 1 of 23       
Hello, everyone
What is the "Regular tool" and where is it?
Is the "Regular tool" really can break building cache file size limit?
Thanks all :)


Maniac1000
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Joined: Feb 24, 2007


Posted: Sep 7, 2014 12:22 PM    Msg. 2 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: Z T Requiem
Hello, everyone
What is the "Regular tool" and where is it?
Is the "Regular tool" really can break building cache file size limit?
Thanks all :)


tool is installed with the HEK to your halo ce root directory


Z T Requiem
Joined: Jul 10, 2014

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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 12:29 PM    Msg. 3 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000
Quote: --- Original message by: Z T Requiem
Hello, everyone
What is the "Regular tool" and where is it?
Is the "Regular tool" really can break building cache file size limit?
Thanks all :)


tool is installed with the HEK to your halo ce root directory
Err... You mean it is "tool.exe"?


ZOBI3KING
Joined: Dec 25, 2012

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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 12:35 PM    Msg. 4 of 23       
Yes it is.


Z T Requiem
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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 12:40 PM    Msg. 5 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: ZOBI3KING
Yes it is.
Okay... Do you know how to use the tool that it can break size limit?


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 01:21 PM    Msg. 6 of 23       
The only viable way to do that is to install open sauce and create .yelo files with it.


Z T Requiem
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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 01:36 PM    Msg. 7 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
The only viable way to do that is to install open sauce and create .yelo files with it.
Oh! Dratt!
I want to build map cache file not yelo cache file so I can input
"tool.exe build-cache-file-ex 0 0 1 levels\XXX\XXX" right?


altis94
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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 03:56 PM    Msg. 8 of 23       
Tool pro works just fine if you know what you are doing.


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 08:53 PM    Msg. 9 of 23       
os_tool build-cache-file-ex "" 0 0 1 levels\whatever\


Z T Requiem
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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 09:50 PM    Msg. 10 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
os_tool build-cache-file-ex "" 0 0 1 levels\whatever\
Okay, I know that. So how can you do that Takedown Series map large? If there is an other way, is it work at multiplayer map?


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Sep 7, 2014 10:04 PM    Msg. 11 of 23       
takedown is a sp map which makes the tags slightly bigger
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Sep 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM


Z T Requiem
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Posted: Sep 7, 2014 10:17 PM    Msg. 12 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812

takedown is a sp map which makes the tags slightly bigger
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Sep 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM
So only sp map can make that? Cause building multiplayer file but too large because I replaced item collection?
By the way, how to create item collection when editing map?


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: Sep 10, 2014 07:47 AM    Msg. 13 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: Z T Requiem
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812

takedown is a sp map which makes the tags slightly bigger
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Sep 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM
So only sp map can make that? Cause building multiplayer file but too large because I replaced item collection?
By the way, how to create item collection when editing map?


Sorta confused about what you need, but I'll try and bump you in the right direction.

Essentially there are 3 compilers.

(I don't call them tool's because there name doesn't really give much indication to there function)

The first: tool.exe > This is that standard engine compiler used to convert and compile files in and out of the engine.

*Note this compiler has a set limit size of content it is allowed to export in a map.

The second: toolpro.exe > Pretty much the exact same thing as the above, accept it allows you to break through cache file size limits.

The third: OStool.exe > As well as a bunch of other nifty things, this program can also break through cache file size limits, it's downside however I believe is you require OS to play the map. Therefore anyone who wants to play your OStool compiled map will require OS.

If you just want to break through cache size limits, use toolpro, the syntax is only slightly different to what you enter when you would usually compile a map.

I.E regular syntax map compile command (without quotes) :

"tool build-cache-file levels\test\testingrange\testingrange"

Cache file limit break syntax command thingy with toolpro

"toolpro build-cache-file levels\test\testingrange\testingrange"

It's not to difficult to get the hang of, just makes sure that toolpro.exe is located inside your
Halo Custom Edition Root directory.

As for creating item collection tags, there are two ways you can make them.

1. Open up guerilla

2. Hit "New" then hit "I" on your keyboard then scroll down the new file type creation parameters until you find "item collection.tag"

Or.....you can edit a pre-existing collection tag by....

1. Opening up guerilla

2. Hit "Open"

3. Navigate to your tagset, open up the "item collections" folder > then open up the single weapons sub folder.

4. Open any item collection tag you see fit, then immediately save it as something else, before you make your adjustments to it. This way you won't be saving over the pre-existing collection.tag which may give you problems in the future.
Edited by SS Flanker on Sep 10, 2014 at 07:48 AM


Z T Requiem
Joined: Jul 10, 2014

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Posted: Sep 11, 2014 01:31 AM    Msg. 14 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: SS Flanker

Quote: --- Original message by: Z T Requiem
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812

takedown is a sp map which makes the tags slightly bigger
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Sep 7, 2014 at 10:04 PM
So only sp map can make that? Cause building multiplayer file but too large because I replaced item collection?
By the way, how to create item collection when editing map?


Sorta confused about what you need, but I'll try and bump you in the right direction.

Essentially there are 3 compilers.

(I don't call them tool's because there name doesn't really give much indication to there function)

The first: tool.exe > This is that standard engine compiler used to convert and compile files in and out of the engine.

*Note this compiler has a set limit size of content it is allowed to export in a map.

The second: toolpro.exe > Pretty much the exact same thing as the above, accept it allows you to break through cache file size limits.

The third: OStool.exe > As well as a bunch of other nifty things, this program can also break through cache file size limits, it's downside however I believe is you require OS to play the map. Therefore anyone who wants to play your OStool compiled map will require OS.

If you just want to break through cache size limits, use toolpro, the syntax is only slightly different to what you enter when you would usually compile a map.

I.E regular syntax map compile command (without quotes) :

"tool build-cache-file levels\test\testingrange\testingrange"

Cache file limit break syntax command thingy with toolpro

"toolpro build-cache-file levels\test\testingrange\testingrange"

It's not to difficult to get the hang of, just makes sure that toolpro.exe is located inside your
Halo Custom Edition Root directory.

As for creating item collection tags, there are two ways you can make them.

1. Open up guerilla

2. Hit "New" then hit "I" on your keyboard then scroll down the new file type creation parameters until you find "item collection.tag"

Or.....you can edit a pre-existing collection tag by....

1. Opening up guerilla

2. Hit "Open"

3. Navigate to your tagset, open up the "item collections" folder > then open up the single weapons sub folder.

4. Open any item collection tag you see fit, then immediately save it as something else, before you make your adjustments to it. This way you won't be saving over the pre-existing collection.tag which may give you problems in the future.
Edited by SS Flanker on Sep 10, 2014 at 07:48 AM

Oh god... thanks for your help, I will try it


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: Sep 12, 2014 10:00 AM    Msg. 15 of 23       
I can't post a link for tool_pro.

Dennis h8tes it. So pm or....just moogle search it.


Z T Requiem
Joined: Jul 10, 2014

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Posted: Sep 13, 2014 01:53 AM    Msg. 16 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: SS Flanker
I can't post a link for tool_pro.

Dennis h8tes it. So pm or....just moogle search it.

I found tool pro but link was crashed
You forgot the tool pro link or Dennis didn't allow it?
Edited by Z T Requiem on Sep 13, 2014 at 02:00 AM
Edited by Z T Requiem on Sep 13, 2014 at 02:17 AM


Super Flanker
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Posted: Sep 14, 2014 06:50 AM    Msg. 17 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: Z T Requiem

Quote: --- Original message by: SS Flanker
I can't post a link for tool_pro.

Dennis h8tes it. So pm or....just moogle search it.

I found tool pro but link was crashed
You forgot the tool pro link or Dennis didn't allow it?
Edited by Z T Requiem on Sep 13, 2014 at 02:00 AM
Edited by Z T Requiem on Sep 13, 2014 at 02:17 AM


I saw a previous thread with a tool_pro comment or link. And immediately after I saw another long winded message from dennis as to why you shouldn't use tool_pro and why he won't allow any links to the app on his site.

If you want it PM me.


Z T Requiem
Joined: Jul 10, 2014

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Posted: Sep 17, 2014 08:10 AM    Msg. 18 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: SS Flanker
Quote: --- Original message by: Z T Requiem

Quote: --- Original message by: SS Flanker
I can't post a link for tool_pro.

Dennis h8tes it. So pm or....just moogle search it.

I found tool pro but link was crashed
You forgot the tool pro link or Dennis didn't allow it?
Edited by Z T Requiem on Sep 13, 2014 at 02:00 AM
Edited by Z T Requiem on Sep 13, 2014 at 02:17 AM


I saw a previous thread with a tool_pro comment or link. And immediately after I saw another long winded message from dennis as to why you shouldn't use tool_pro and why he won't allow any links to the app on his site.

If you want it PM me.

OK, I found why can't we use tool pro on other post, It may cause exception when we play a map created by tool pro. So thanks all, I'll try to create good maps and make it smaller than 128MB.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Nov 16, 2014 06:27 AM    Msg. 19 of 23       
I actually got my tool_pro from sparkies first incarnation of his starter kit I must say although the file size is huge it has a lot of content invaluable to the boobies and the pro's of this community.

thnx sparky btw.

I would give you a hug but I have run out of halo meemes.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: Nov 18, 2014 06:55 AM    Msg. 20 of 23       




Jobalisk
Joined: Feb 8, 2014

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Posted: Nov 20, 2014 01:42 PM    Msg. 21 of 23       
If you want tool pro you will find it on the halo demo mods website. that's where I got it. the version I got also appears to be bug free.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: Nov 21, 2014 10:11 AM    Msg. 22 of 23       
Sparkies site.


thellt
Joined: Feb 14, 2009

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Posted: Nov 24, 2014 05:23 PM    Msg. 23 of 23       
well... at least were not talking about somethning like "regular show."...

 

 
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