It was made by a guy who mostly writes/speaks in Spanish, so that would be appropriate.

could be a lot of help with OS... (just sayin)


so can i request a private link on the marine's animation tag???

the sauce would be about the only way to have a good remake. more polies, bumpmapping, bloom, better lighting, post-processing, yeah... there should be an OS version.

Sadly, a great majority of the Halo CE community doesn't know how/can't use OpenSauce. OpenSauce is like the good movie that suffers from bad sales.

Ok, Killer, here's a suggestion. If you're going to be showing stuff off, do it in the other threads. Continually showing off HR or H4 stuff in this thread will confuse people and will make them not even want to care about it

I think he's an dummy who failed to complete basic training.

If he fires his weapon, he won't have a hand anymore.

So, you are being sent in with one guy (Cpt. Keyes) to rescue a bunch of dummies?

Interesting.

Your sad attempt of a pun is not amusing (intentional or not)

your argument is invalid

Yeah... well, uhm... Are you going to use equipment in this mod? I think it alredy have been mentioned but yeah well, I'm so [REDACTED] lazy so...

Oh, and if so, will it use the weapon method?

Wooooww... awesome!

I doubt that your maps will look this good.

For once, I actually agree. @Killer5000, Isn't this running on generic sauce? There's no way that this would be able to run if it is. You need OpenSauce.. I wouldn't suggest getting it though. Like 50% of the community can't use it/don't know how to install it.

'bout time, killer, if u want any map to look like that visually, you're gonna need bumps, good shaders, and excellent post-processing. those are all things that the sauce can provide if u work with it.

You might wanna improve your non-OS shaders first before jumping into OS.

The H3 Flood Elite could be rerigged to the H1 Flood Elite bones, which would allow it to use the H1 animations. Might not look too good, depending on how well it was rerigged.

Well, just put the reach hull shader and let h3 tires and gun.

If you want to learn something technical, try obsessing over it for a while until you get how things work!

oh and tuts help
Edited by OrangeJuice on Jun 13, 2013 at 03:07 AM

I can give you some suggestions on how to improve your non-OS shaders, before working with OpenSauce.

After looking your models, I have seen that you just have applied the diffuse map, without using reflection/cubemaps and detail maps. Here is a short list of things that you need to do in order to obtain a decent shader_model:

1) First of all, you need a multipurpose map, or multi-map. It is a sort of control bitmap, that defines where the detail, the color change and the reflection must be visible. All you need is a photo editing software like Photoshop or Gimp.
Open your diffuse map, and colorize the regions you need to edit (sometimes it's enough the whole bitmap). Remeber: if you fill a region with pink, that region will be used for the reflection map; if you fill it with green, that region will be self illuminated (good for lights); if you fill it with black, that region will be ignored. You have also to define the alpha channel, that is important for the color change. The alpha channel uses just two colours, black and white, and the black parts are ignored, as always. Once you have finished, save it as a separated bitmap.
A little example:

2) Once you imported the multi in your shader tag, you need to set it up correctly. For self illuminated regions, find the "self illumination" caption, and set both the animation colour bounds with the desired colour (white usually)

3) For colour change, select your change colour source (it depends from the function in your biped tag. Open your biped tag and scroll down until you find a section called "change colours")

4) Now you need a detail map. It's not really necessary, since it is visible only if you look close to the model, but it's important for better looks. Guerrilla allows you to chose which detail mask use, like the reflection mask (read above) or the alpha channel. You can use the stock detail maps, or make a new one. Remeber that detail maps must be tiled and in grayscale. Once you got a detail map, set the detail map scale: it is the number of times the map is repeated. The detail function defines how strong the map is visible, I usually keep the default "double/biased multiply"

5) Texture scrolling animation is not necessary, unless you want to make your map scroll through the model (not the best for shader_models, so ignore it)

6) Now comes the most important part: reflection maps! First of all, you need a rflection cube map, I recommend using the default ones, that you can paste from every shader_model. They are really important, because they give a shiny look, perfect for metal surfaces.
Once you got your cube map, you need set these parameters:

reflection fallout and cutoff distance=0, unless you want to have your cubemap scale depending from the distance

perpendicular brightness= from 0.5 to 1 (it's your choise)

parallel brightness= 1-perpendicular brightness

perpendicular colour and parallel colour are up to your choise, but remember that the first must be brighter

If you have followed my suggestions correctly, you should have a decent shader_model!

You can also use gray in the color change. This makes the color lighter.

As for the perpendicular color, it does not need to be lighter/brighter. It can be if you wish but it will change depending on what you're trying to do.


Edited by Dumb AI on Jun 13, 2013 at 03:39 PM

Fix ther smoothing groups

adjust the textures for use in Halo CE's engine.

Select your mesh, go in face selection mode, select all your faces, scroll down until you find the Smoothing groups caption, and click on a number (usually 1 is enough)

Just a note: maybe this is foregone, but don't use reflections on clothes or skins, use them just on metal surfaces, armours and vehicles
Edited by SOI_7 on Jun 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Yep, I had this type of problems when I made my revamped Keyes -_-
Bad memories...

Use some punctuation, please, it's hard to understand what you wrote :'(

For the smoothing groups, this is what Waffles was talking about: you need to weld your vertices. Select your desired vertices in vertex mode, scroll down until you find the "Weld" caption, in the first box write a small number (like 0,001) and then click on "Selected". This will make your faces smoother, but remember that some vertices will need to be rerigged again.

To rig just some vertices, in the skin modifier list, select "Paint weights", and set the size of the brush in the "radius" caption

Vertices won't need to be rerigged in most cases for these ripped models. You can then apply the smoothing groups after welding, or like me, I prefer to apply the smoothing groups before welding because it's much easier to select by element.

If I'm not wrong, you said that your marines use Cyborg animations, am I right?
In this case, the problem is that your model doesn't have the talking animation, and so you need to make it by your hand (I don't recommend it, though).
If, on the other hand, your marines are using the Halo CE marines animations, probably you rigged the whole head with the "head" bone, while you need to rig the mandible with a different bone (it should be "ponytail" or "jaw"). You have just to use the Paint Weights tool, and click on the desired vertices, so you don't have to rig a complete component.

P.S. Thanks to God, he's gone (you know who...)

amen to that, maybe I should get in to the map making game, of course I need to know what is what

If it looks squished, probably something is wrong with one or more vertices. Just for curiosity, when you export the JMS, does it display an error like "Some vertices are rigged by more than two bones"? It should explain the problem... unless there is something else

Crazy shaders=lots of different colors

I like terrible shaders more than crazy shaders...

I think it sounds just like b40 (Assault on the Control Room), except for the crashing part in the beginning.

And I'm guessing a50 will take place at sunset!
Edited by Dumb AI on Jun 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM

I'm starting to think that your shaders for bipeds are better than what you have for Blood Gulch.

yes.. I'll be waiting..

You should put the Spirit just in a50 and in c10, remember that this is a H3 mod, and Spirits in H3 have been replaced by Phantoms. Moreover, I don't like that texture you used for the ground in a30. It looks like a floor, instead of rock... Same thing for the sky, I prefered the old one you showed. And I've not finished yet... :/
I can understand your desire to change the original campaign, but you shouldn't upset the original levels so much, IMO. Still waiting for the demo, though, I'll put what I've found wrong, just like I always do

Might just need UVing from a pro... not me.

Waffles' H3 Elites are great.

(please try to spell your words correctly)
Edited by Dumb AI on Jun 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM