For extra security to your maps, it should have some sort of firewall which will block tag extraction if it detects that you are in Mexico.

All right, not really, but what's with all these poorly made H2/H3/HR/H4 maps?
They are always broken with OP weapons and CMT tags (what are they doing in H3/HR/H4 maps?).
They just get a good map, spam it with tags they didn't make, protect and upload.

And why do all these HR maps have Halo 3 tags?
I want to see something fresh and new in these mods, not choppy DMRs, or ugly textures, I don't want to see old tags.

These maps are ruining Custom Edition.

It's because people think they are super pro if their maps are filled with tags from a recent Halo game. Even if those tags suck monkey dingleberries.

And unfortunately, uninformed downloaders think so too.

It is indeed a hassle.

I think people think it's cool to add tags which they believe to be from newer Halo games. Most people mod already made maps because it's hard to find a 3ds max version that is directly compatible with CE now. Unlike 2004-2006 there are now all these tools people can use to get whatever content they want from other peoples maps and smash it all together. There is no work involved. These people know very little about the HEK, and if they have fun doing it that way, thats good for them. But in my opinion (and I'm sure many others) it's just cluttering the site up with garbage.

I don't recall last seeing a map i downloaded from the front page of Halomaps.

You should see all the videos on youtube of people sayin their cruddy map is the best, even when the HUD is all messed up, tags are ugly and outdated, and uses bloodgulch...

I'm pretty sure everybody here has already read Dennis's response to such a suggestion.

So I don't see any valid reason to restart this ridiculous opinion-heavy argument. -.-

I would like to point out that this problem has to do with people not understanding what makes a good map, NOT with ripped assets.

Sigh...They are not your maps. You have no copyright protection for them so you have no legal way to enforce your will on those who acquire them. Any "protection scheme" you come up with is moot because ultimately the game has to be able to read them so therefore the map can be extracted. Grow up and get over this notion. User made content for just about any game is still covered under the copyright of the original game so therefore you have no legal rights to them to enforce.

To put it another way: These are not your toys, Microsoft just lets you play with them. So Play nice.


Edited by Dennis on Mar 16, 2013 at 03:07 PM

... I smell a tad of racism in the air (or just this post).

It's not racist, but just look at who made all those garbage H3 maps.

Terrible mods surpass national boundaries.

Better yet I should do that for anyone under the age of thirty.

What about us Japanese people? We gave you cherry trees in DC... and Mario.. and Toyota...

-but in all honesty, if you want to ban bad maps, blame those mapmakers, not their nationality.

The stereotype is that it is the mexicans who make bad maps.

In a perfect world, somebody would be testing each map to see if works and if it's nothing more than a mod of an old map with a bunch of new weapons
Edited by Dumb AI on Mar 17, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Yeah I know, I'm just saying.

All Halo CE maps are tested before they are placed in the archive. We don't pass judgment on the content or else we would only host about two dozen or so maps.

Sheese, everyone wants me to censor maps unless it's their map.

Just saying, that would happen in a perfect world.

But this world isn't perfect.
Edited by Dumb AI on Mar 17, 2013 at 12:51 AM

So in your perfect world censorship of other's ideas is to be aspired too ? Doesn't sound to perfect to me.

Perfect for him. I understand what Dennis means about not being choosy (where would we draw the line, who's opinion is used when selecting maps?) but the amount of blood gulch maps here is ridiculous. Maybe delete the v1s and any variant that has a 'fixed' or 'final' version out there.

I do not see how the race or nationality matter.

But seriously all of these bloodgulch and modified maps are annoying MAKE YOUR OWN and you can make maps using 3dsmax 2010 which you can download for free from autodesks education website so make your own BSP its hard but if you have any problems there a entire forum full of people who will help you its a much better way to get started in halo CE rather than useing one of the original or someone else BSP.
Edited by ELVEVERX on Mar 17, 2013 at 04:10 AM

It doesn't. It's statistics.

So... To not be choosy... Aannd... Censor bad maps?

I smell the way to resolve this is a "Dennis's Favourite maps" section... For all the GREAT maps that mr. Sir. Dennis likes.

I also have this strange feeling that (if this is made) Bloodgulch mods won't be put in this section... Unless You, Mr Sir Dennis, likes that sort of thang.

You really don't want that... What I like is no where near what most of you like. It is better if you all vote on the maps you like and decide for yourself.

In a truly perfect world, there would be no need to do so.
Everything would be perfect. No flaws of any sort. Censorship of any kind would be nonexistent.

Edited by Dumb AI on Mar 17, 2013 at 04:25 PM

You have no right to decide what is perfect and what is not.

Some like burnt toast, some do not. Some like their meat rare, some like it nicely singed.
This isn't confirming that an apple is an apple and an orange is an orange. This is a matter of opinion and nothing else. If you have any misconception that your beliefs are correct, you are very wrong.

The only way for the world to be perfect is for it not to exist. In such a case, there would be no flaws possible.

It does not and will not, which is why I say "in a perfect world".

It's entirely up to you to decide what you think is a perfect world.

No one has ever seen or been in one so it's always just an idea that is simply what you think of as a perfect world.

In my view, an opinion can not be wrong because it can't be true either.
If it was, it would be fact.


Edited by Dumb AI on Mar 17, 2013 at 04:43 PM

With this I agree. But keep in mind that it is your world and no one else's so it will be very lonely or filled with only the people and things you desire acting how you think and become very boring.

However in this world, I leave it up to each individual user to determine what maps they like and only exert a very small editorial influence by my selections on the home page. Just like the price of free speech, you have to also allow the things you don't like as well.

Adjutant allows you to get almost all of those things (no H4 support, though).
Edited by Dumb AI on Mar 17, 2013 at 04:57 PM

And this is why Dennis (and his website) are AWESOME. (if only our government was more like that)

Who cares about all the bloodgulch mods? Sure they are stupid, but how does it affect anything, just don't download them.

As for the problem of all the same weapons being thrown into every stinking map... I think the problem is a lack of good complete tutorials. Most people don't know how to make their own custom weapons (it took me a long time and a bunch of tutorials to learn), which is why I started making my own (more complete) tutorials :D

Anniversary uses the Saber3D engine (which is totally different than the Halo engine).

The problem isn't the crap maps, the problem is being able to find the decent ones with the content you want.

...just as a thought. Dennis, why not make a Seperate section of halomaps dedicated to just bloodgulch mods?

And maybe a section filter in the search options, or an advanced search for maps?

"Bloodgulch mod bucket", right underneath "Modified Halo CE Maps"

Here's an idea that I've had for a while...

Why not have one section for Custom Multiplayer Maps and one section for Modified Multiplayer Maps?
It would basically be divided in the same way that Singleplayer maps already are.