On the second heretic level.
Edited by spiral on Mar 31, 2014 at 10:21 PM

@P3 it was an original xbox game.
anyways, loving this stuff, are all these tags all actually being used in da mod?
Also, how do you get the normals working? i am pulling my hair trying to get them to show up ingame! I am doing the heightmap thing so idk. >.<
Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Mar 31, 2014 at 10:29 PM

Oh, I get it. Flood Sea Monkey. I think I still have an old box of sea monkeys in my closet. Wonder if they'd still come back to life if I threw em in a tank of water... but I digress.

Oh bungie, your creature names never disappoint
Edited by Delicon20 on Mar 31, 2014 at 11:09 PM

ive got a lovely bunch of coconuts,.ugh!

Ah, the Jackal.

My worst enemy since the Flood.

hunters need to be darker and bluer, not a word but idc, drones need to be as green as a fly's eye and jackal needs sharper detail, grunt is good though

Some of them look like they have glitter all over them... XD

Your specular is way off, jackals shield is off, I suppose the bipeds are using there halo 2 bone set by the looks of it.

The problem with the hunters is that the textures are too detailed. Needs moar texture filter/blur. Basically, dumb dumb the graphics until it's crap and it will look exactly like Halo 2.


I've always had something against Halo 2's half-a**ed graphics.

I can't help but get excited and misty eyed over this. I tried to dig out my copy of Halo 2, but then I remembered that someone stood on my limited edition case and scratched the disc whilst I was still at school… sadface.

Maybe jumping the gun a bit here, but have you guys had any thoughts as to how the Scarab encounter is going to work?
Edited by Diaboy on Apr 1, 2014 at 06:46 PM

IIRC, not too long ago, Kirby or someone, did a Halo: Reach multiplayer-capable stand-on-able Scarab, so the only issue I can see is the AI having trouble.
Edited by 1bobsam1 on Apr 1, 2014 at 07:11 PM

Is it possible to set it up as a device? Like a giant piece of animated scenery?

Edit
Hah, again, I am perhaps jumping ahead a bit much.
Edited by Diaboy on Apr 1, 2014 at 07:04 PM

AI can walk on anything, they just cant pathfind on non-bsp, and hence will avoid moving on non-bsp objects if they can so help it since they are as good as blind while standing on them.

Anyways, ill deal with that in a few weeks, but I has to deal with school stuff (rawr, this mornings class was canceled, all that wasted travel time, and now to head back home... rawrrrrr)

Mootjuh u have PC now?

If this project actually makes it, will we see any Scarab battles like we had on Halo 3?

And (if) failing that... will there be any new hype coming to the existing scarab portion of the game?

Not even remotely possible, as we discussed up above, a Halo 2 Scarab encounter will even be challenging.

Exactly. Plus if you have dynamic Scarab AI trying to go after while the other AI standing on top of a VEHICLE and trying to path find on a veichle isn't even possible.

I think the scarab can still be made as a device machine with a clever placement of the AI's and their positions synced with time. And the head could be an attached actor variant

So the device_machine would have to be one whole massive animation to accommodate the Scarab's entire path each time the player encounters it?

What about the "Scarab Gun"?
Edited by 1bobsam1 on Apr 21, 2014 at 03:55 PM

Well a good thing to keep in mind is that the, "The Great Journey", Scarab will be easy since you guys will not have to worry about AI walking on the Scarab.
Edited by 1bobsam1 on Apr 21, 2014 at 05:24 PM

So, kirby went to deal with that, but then he remembered something very important; hes taught his buggers to ignore such dangers and illogicalness. Hence, kirby just unleashed a swarm of buggers on the scarab, and let them do whatever it is they wanted to do (such as having sexual relations with corners, and jumping overboard)

Probably should of done it properly, but whatever. Laziness is quicker.

What about while it is moving...?

They act the same as in the video; they love their corners, and will jump off the sides for lawlz. Turning animation seems to be slightly broken at the moment; scarab will freak out for a second just before turning.

Haha, that sounds really funny while being a pain in the arse.

So, seeing as how I can conquer a scarab unarmed, by driving the elites to jump off the sides... I decided those ranger elites would be better.. If they get too far away (they've jumped off the side), have them start flying after the scarab





And I really hate how the H2 scarab looks lol; would look so much nicer with a H3 scarab...

This is a pretty good idea actually. It would sure make gamplay more interesting. As the elite's shields are running low, it can jump off and appear to commit suicide, just to disappear long enough for the shields to recharge and melee you from the back.

Is there anyway to add an invisible collision attached to the Scarab's edges that only affects AI based entities? (Don't kill me if this is a retarded question, lol)

I do like the Ranger idea, yet you have to be worried about how they may get stuck the catwalks within the Scarab's final path. Also (if use even use the Ranger) I would edit its model before the final version of this map with a non-space-based helmet head.

Edited by 1bobsam1 on Apr 24, 2014 at 08:00 AM

It is fully possible to do this with a Halo 3 Scarab in Halo Custom Edition, isn't it?

If anything I would really like to see you guys increase the model's detail on the Halo 2 Scarab.

Not to tell the team what to do, but I think it would be better if the Halo 3 Scarab were used instead, mainly for the sake of making this feel "new" and not practically the same Halo 2 campaign ported over to Halo Custom Edition. That is one of the points after all, correct? To renew the experience?
Edited by Megatron on May 1, 2014 at 08:07 PM

I really like the Halo 3 Scarab idea as well. It would give a neat twist to it... to see it climbing over the streets and buildings of Mombasa.