So, pretty simple, we contact Microsoft and Negotiate for the release of the Source Code for CE's -Blam- engine.

what we need

-convince MS to release the -Blam- Engine
-convince Gamespy to continue the multiplayer service once it is made open source
-have a project in mind, so that they can see that we are doing something with the new information

so far, the mods at 343i are dubious, but supportive, so lets get going.






Edited by SilentJacket on Oct 18, 2012 at 02:41 PM

I believe Kornman already wrote a letter to Gearbox to get the original code.

Good luck, but they really don't care.

i was just about to mention that gearbox have the source code for the PC, though Microsoft may also have it, the thing is would they still have it after 10 years

the amazing things that could be done with that source code...
Edited by killzone64 on Oct 18, 2012 at 02:53 PM

then back to the plan of the OP

Do you realize how many times that this has been tried in the past?

Time and effort.

However, if you planned to do this wouldn't it be a good idea to show a list of things that could be done with the source code? Perhaps you want to accentuate what is possible when combined with the use of Open Sauce...

I'm not a programmer, so if anyone cares to explain to me what you could do with the source code, it would make for an argument with teeth.

I'd say it's a little late to release the source now, unfortunately the community has shrunk considerably the past few years. Don't think a source release would change that too much as most people have moved on to more modern engines and games.

You have as much to lose as you have to gain. Nothing.

Microsoft will never "open source" the code for the Blam! engine because first it is against their policy to open source anything and second they would never give away the keys to their most profitable video game franchise.

Probably get it in the next ten years when microsoft stops trying to assert into making more halo games.

Microsoft probably will never end Halo.They will make new trilogies and spin-offs and other stuff to make more profits from it.

What's the point of Final Fantasy?

that

and also, you need to realize that this game is 10 YEARS OLD, there is not profit in this "project" for them at all ( i believe), besides, 343 industries already gave to us Halo Anniversary, and i'm sure as hell that we cannot make something better than that even with OS implemented with the engine.

Believe me, i can't see this happening, and the fact that there's still ppl playing this game is surprising, sorry man
Edited by ChBgt909 on Oct 18, 2012 at 11:57 PM

It was just a graphical update, OS can (to some degree) replicate that and add more stuff into the mix.

Halo: 13-2

Not necessarily true.

Microsoft gains some community support from supporting modders. Though only a little bit of support in the short term, in the long term, it will gain them a lot of reputation for actually caring about their customers.

They lose nothing.

I agree with Jaz, support your userbase, and you will be respected and repayed through loyalty.

Well said...

Just a thought guys - isn't the modern version of the engine from Halo 4, a modified, upgraded version from Halo Reach, which is from Halo 3, which is from Halo 2, which is, hilariously, from Halo 1. I am sure the current iteration of it is far removed from the Blam! engine used for Halo CE, but I imagine that chain of logic is enough of an argument for them to say no.

especially considering how bungie released some of their methods to the public, ie gradient bitmaps, explosions, etc

How about go and make your own game engine or use the already great ones released by developers like Crytek or Epic?

Higuy,please magically find the reason why some of us wants the Blam engine source.

To make memory hacks that feature "faster development times!" and "more bugs!"

To fix assemblies responsible for making plasma and transparent shaders work again.

So that some fool can try to make a new and improved halo, who will either disappear or pull the "hard drive failure" card.

EDIT>
So that people can compress maps for xbox map packs

So that people can quiver at lawsuits for a game engine that microsoft doesn't and WONT care that you have the source code to, people had reverse engineered this game engine long ago from assembly, they don't care, sheesh.

So that people can find out how memories are randomized within halo for the more ambitious memory hacks.

So that you can make more reterded dedis with cliche - unneeded greetings and host your bloodgulch-only mapcycle.

So that mod makers can get into a proprietary format war.

So that cheaters can make a profit off of sellable, fully-compatible hacks.

So that people can add functionality to the game.

So that people can carelessly compile unoptimized maps that are oversized, low-poly, and take up half a gig(potentially).

So that people can learn to make their own game engines that aren't some silly rasterizer tutorial.

So that people can learn to share source code and collab on huge projects that turn out amazing.

So that people can make lasers that don't chop when you move them around.

So that people can make fun of XDK owners who dare not compile things NOT made with the openXDK.
Edited by OrangeJuice on Oct 20, 2012 at 01:20 AM

Since you asked nicely:
Vince Perriello the author of the software Binkley term and then hired and employed by Microsoft for ten years in their Exchange products. And in more recent years Randy Pitchford and Roger Wolfson. I'll let you Goggle them yourself of you don't recognize the names.




There are legal ramifications in open sourcing the base structure of active commercial software. Numerous copyright issues arise involved with enforcing your rights over a code base, the Blam! engine, that you are currently selling as a commercial product but are offering as open source. But beyond that Microsoft does not open source anything and their "free" software like XNA for example is tightly licensed and not "open sourced" by any definition.

The only way you're gonna get the code for this game is if it is reversed-engineered buy one of the community members. Which would be nearly impossible.

not to mention illegal...

Quote "800,000+ lines of assembly"

Halo Reach is to Halo 3 as Halo 2 is to Halo 1
Halo 4 uses the timeless COD engine.