You mean take advantage of the poor netcode and physics calculations to fly?

Done it before plenty of times by pure luck. I've never had time to take screenshots though. :(

Would be an interesting challenge to do it deliberately. Find out why it actually happens.

Dude, Mator, I know you're feeling proud of reaching the tricking achievement, but you're ignoring the point that the forum members are making.
These modders know about the game, and it's behavior. You've done tricks and some 3dsmax okay, but the members here definitely know what they're talking about. For you to just say that you're right, right, and always right just isn't that justifiable.

And how is making a map and every other asset from scratch modding? There are actual mapmakers here too ya know?

Mator, are you just spoiled kid who has a hissy fit when you can't get your own way lol. Golden comedy this thread is .

(Corrected for additional impact)

I agree that the term "modders" is used a bit too loosely here sometimes. It has a negative ring to it, one that level designer does not have.

And still you don't get it, wow. How blind and arrogant can you be ?



That's exactly the same thing as saying a car is fast. This is all common knowledge, it's easy to tell what's happening from one glance of the physics model. As to why though, you still haven't explained anything.

Physics major or not, all you did was glitched a ghost through the BSP... oooh, soo cool. Not really.

You also came in here, ignorant about many of the member's experience & knowledge in making assets for this game, and you have no experience with the engine. Enough said.

I recommend you bring this topic to a forum where stunters appreciate it, because no one is enjoying your ignorance of this forum, and halo itself.
Edited by ODST_Nick on May 23, 2012 at 07:39 PM

Wait, he stated he was a physics major ? (i'm not reading most of his crap his wall's of txt just looks like kiddy rage).

Wtf has that got to do with a video game!? He has just lowered himself down the lowest you can go! AHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

Right there.

Your bandwagon posting is just as low :)

To be honest I'd think that hunter would be more mature rather than yelling out "AHAHAHAHA" to prove his rightness.

You wouldn't happen to know anyone who thinks they're pretty great after spending time alone in a 10 year old game, would you?

Right?



tldr mator is a microcosm of this broken community

It has nothing to do with the game. I brought it up because another member brought up he was doing "physics calculations as to the nature of the universe", and that "this thread wasn't worth his time" because of this fact. In response to this I pointed out that I was studying physics too, and I asked him to share some of his work.

You guys are really good at twisting things to fit your own arguments, should consider being politicians.

ALSO: When I actually prove your argument wrong, you start calling me ignorant and unable to listen to what these "super experienced" modding folk have to say.

Anyways, I'm done here. I'm not ignorant or foolish, and I've made clear, to the best of my ability, my knowledge in the game and how I know the things I do. Those of you who still doubt will always doubt because you're too self-righteous to admit that you were proved wrong by a halo stunter.

You may twist my words to no end and you may insult me until there's nothing left of my character in your eyes. However, in the end it won't change a few things:


1. I'm thankful for your input, be it positive or negative, regarding the trick. An understanding of how the halo community, including those people who are modders/map-makers, view tricks/tricking is important to me.

2. The trick functions roughly how I've described it. Some minor details such as the nature of de-rendering and phantoming may not be exactly right, but overall what I have said is correct. You may talk about barriers, ceilings, and physics calculations all you like, it won't change the fact that experimental evidence overwhelmingly supports certain explanations while ruling out others.

3. This project, from beginning to end, has taught me some valuable things which I will take with me for the rest of my life. It has taught me about people, video games, video editing, and project management.

4. I do not regret posting it here, even for all the posts I have made and all the posts others have made.

5. People, here and elsewhere, have appreciated this trick.


If you would like to engage in mature and open discussion regarding the physics of this trick please PM me.

Until further notice I'm done arguing in this thread. From here on out I will be ignoring any argumentative/non-constructive posts, as further discussion is unlikely to accomplish anything more at this point. The entirety of my views can be accessed throughout the last 100 posts.

-Mator
Edited by Mator on May 23, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I said "AHAHAHAAH" because i'm laughing at him.

And what bandwagon would this be?

And I have no care for what you say Mator, from the posts I have read your really idiotic, aside from the last few pages which seems to be a bit more of a valid argument, but still.

However there is one final question. How would you yourself know that you're the one proven to be right?

Experimental evidence shows certain things to be true. E.g. If the Ghost was past a barrier I would have noticed it.
Edited by Mator on May 24, 2012 at 12:05 AM

I haven't seen anyone here lol.
Edited by TM_updates on May 24, 2012 at 12:48 AM

Am I invisible?

Double post!!

This seems to be a lot of defensiveness just about finding an exploit in halo. Its not rely going to get you into the " cool" crowd by posting this here due to the fact that this forum is mostly focused on creating custom content as compared to finding exploits that Many people couldve cared less about. And judging by your quote for your profile you are only looking for attention from someone here because in your actual life you dont have any friends. I Mostly agree with evereyone here in that it was time wasted. It might have been neat when the game was new but now nobody really cares.

Mator, you don't seem to understand. No offence to your 'fans', but this community is filled with real modders who actually know what they're talking about. They tried being nice and just pointed some information out to you. Then YOU decided to argue.
Your 'fan' communities are filled with players who know nothing at all about modding. Of course they can have an opinion, but there is a difference between 'being nice' and an 'informed opinion'. ;)

You made the situation worse by being an ass and arguing about totally off topic situations.

Most of us were trying to put our points across nicely and informatively at first. But now, you're just being an ass and arguing about topics you've had little experience with against experienced modders who have spent YEARS studying each topic in-depth. The combination of Anonymous, a modellor, Sparkle, a coder/scripter, and other specialised modders have put their points across and you've just ignored them and insulted them.

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Edited by Jaz on May 24, 2012 at 02:29 PM

I like that even if he's wrong (I honestly have no idea, I dunno much about physics), he can present his argument in a concise way, without caps or swearing, and without completely atrocious grammar.

And some of those who proved him wrong presented their arguments in a concise manner, without caps or swearing, and without completely atrocious grammar. Your point is? ;)

I don't guess there is a point, it's just refreshing to see in comparison to... uh... other people.

People, you have a choice here: continue the argument or not. If you even debated continuing the argument, don't even think about it, just don't post.

And who are you to say that? lol

Hypocrite.

OH GOD WHY BUMP THE THREAD

Mator, you really are a tough cookie aren't you? At first I started to like you and the more I have read the more I have to simply laugh and scratch my head in disbelief.

I do have to say up front, that I do admire your dedicated to a project, and carried it through and produced a product and met your goals (I'm assuming), to hats off to that.

The problem is the content of that product and your 'labeling' and marketing and non-stop babbling about how amazing and marvelous it is. At the end of the day, the only stunt in the video, was when you got launched from the ground onto the ghost in midair - that was the only part of the video that I nodded and thought, 'nice'.

I've heard people throw around the words 2 years spent making this, to be honest I have no quarrels with how long it took, if it took you 5 years, then meh 5 years. Who cares? People here need to realise you didnt work on it 24/7, it was one of the hobbies that you do on rainy days, or when you have a spare 30 minutes or so. That said, I am thankful that I didnt run into you within those 2 years.

Also, Tiel - do you really know much about game design? It seems everyone and their Grandmother seem to 'know about game design' in this day in age. How many people here actually know how to properly structure a GDD? And how many here will need to Google that acronym before knowing what that actually means (anyone with knowledge will know instantly). Heres a hint, CDD also plays a role but is shorter.

Using acronyms just because YOU know what they mean does NOT mean others here don't have a good grasp on decent game design. I could say that you should do some more investigation into the SAE domain, before blabbering on and acting like you're the man here, but I'd just look stupid because only a few people here know what that means.

In conclusion, one could say your abilities to judge other people their knowledge, talents and capabilties are in fact quite...Limited.

You clearly missed the whole point of that part of my post. Knowing the acronym means nothing, particularly when my post pretty much (read between the lines) gave what it means away.

'Good grasp', is not what I said. I'd say theres a very small minority of people in the community that actually know game design, what it involves. Everyone else simply doesnt understand what the definition is - from an industry standpoint I mean. Hence why I referenced GDD and CDD.

My abilities to judge is only based upon what people post :)

As far as I can tell all you're doing here is trying to be the "big man". Putting down other members needlessly. Bravo to you.

Limited, Lodex is right.

For example, I could say your ability to write correctly is poor because you don't know the acronyms: PEE* and AFOREST*.

So obviously your grammar is atrocious.

Knowledge of a subject isn't determined by knowing the fine details. A lot of people know a lot about game design. Whether they know the acronyms for Game Design Document or for Point, Evidence, Explanation doesn't matter. Most of us here know what we're talking about, even me. We're already explained everything to Mator and nicely put him down. Your appearance was needless and rude.

P.S. This thread should just be locked in my opinion.

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* - Fine, school acronyms are dumb. I don't need them, and I don't care. Get over it.

Game design? No. Gameplay design? Yes