It's not a staff dude. It's a wand. You'll have to admit it eventually. :p
-Zekilk

Unlike what Yoda implies, I'm just gonna say that Universe is also highly recommended viewing imo. It was building up to some very interesting things before it tragically got cut.

I hated star gate universe, until the very last episodes (Like the last 8, haha). One of the writers must have noticed how dumb the plot was and turned it around. Sadly it was already to late. :(

Agreed, sucks that it ended so early.
Edited by Wolf_ on Dec 12, 2011 at 02:03 PM

UPDATE 03

Progress was really slow this week. (in fact it was almost non-existant). We did manage to finish modeling the ruins scenery object for the area around the gate. And I made some progress on the P90, but not really enough to show.



On the bright side though.... we survived finals and will now have enough time to get some real work done on the map.

Hopefully we will have some more interesting updates and then a release in the next couple of weeks.






Oh, and btw...... Stargate univierse was a disgrace to the franchise, sorry TM_updates

i love this. stargate is my fav show.

universe:
http://kevinclchung.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/why-did-stargate-universe-fail/

ill just leave this here insted of typing a convuluted post.

No need to apologise, I don't really care how it affects others éh. I feel more sorry that you didn't enjoy it.

Nice to read about such project. Really, if you intend to make a new Stargate map however you should take the time to check out the original Gate map as Dennis Suggested and try and do better. They had nice effects but their BSP was at best modest. You should put more time and effort in yours instead of releasing ''two maps'' try and make one good.

UPDATE 04

Sorry for not updating monday we got busy and forgot. Progress is slower than we expected and our Christmas break from college is far busier than we anticipated. But I did manage to finish modelling the p90.



I have almost finished unwrapping it and will (hopefully) begin texturing it this week.

The textures for the ruins are off to a good start, but still have a long way to come before we can show finished version.

After I finish the P90 I will just have to make the secret weapon for the map






I am not exactly sure what you are talking about. I responded to Dennis's post and specifically stated that I had played that map before. Also, if you would take the time to try out that map and then simply take a look at the assets that we have shown then I am sure that you would see that there is a significant difference, and that ours are far closer to what was shown in the stargate TV series. As we have stated before, we have incredibly busy schedules and a lot of ideas for maps, this particular one is a remake of a map that we made quite some time ago that we played with friends and had fun with, but never released. We want to remake it so that we can play the improved version (and release this time) and then we plan to continue with other new ideas, some of which are more complicated and have better BSPs.

looks good :)

This was what i wanted to make when i first joined halomaps but no-one was interested :(

An sp would be really cool, on a Goauld ship maybe?

If you do make an sp it would be cool if you got the actual sound track into halo.

And do you have any plans for the Wraith or the Ori?
Edited by Muscl3r on Jan 19, 2012 at 11:59 PM

We havn't put much thought into Ori, but we do plan on doing some more Stargate maps. Some will be SG-1 and others will be Atlantis. We want to make some of the wraith weapons and we have considered a map with wraith darts and puddle jumpers.

As for single player. We have thought about it, and we would like to do it at some point. But we have never made a single player mission, and we still have a few multiplayer ideas that we want to do first.

Thanks for the interest in our map, always a pleasure to find another Stargate fan :D


Also,
THE DOWNLOADES ARE UP! Not on Halomaps, but on the other website. So here are the download links, hopefully soon I will be able to add download links for Halomaps.

Map:
http://www.moddb.com/members/ncc-1701/downloads/sg-highground-map

Tagset:
http://www.moddb.com/members/ncc-1701/downloads/sg-highground-tagset

Our xfire names are in the Tagset readme, feel free to contact us with any questions.
Edited by Yoda on Jan 20, 2012 at 09:19 AM
Edited by Yoda on Jan 20, 2012 at 05:39 PM
Edited by Yoda on Jan 21, 2012 at 10:43 AM

:) Thanks you for the map and tagset

I downloaded the files through the map link but no Map. :(

OH DANGIT. Sry... that was a really stupid mistake on my part.

I have deleted the download, I should have a new download link in a few hours when the new upload is approved.

Thanks for letting us know.

EDIT:

New download is up

Map:
http://www.moddb.com/members/ncc-1701/downloads/sg-highground-map

Tagset:
http://www.moddb.com/members/ncc-1701/downloads/sg-highground-tagset

sry about the mixup.
Edited by Yoda on Jan 21, 2012 at 09:33 AM
Edited by Yoda on Jan 21, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Now that the new download for the map is up any thoughts or criticism on it would be appreciated.

Just downloaded the map and have some feedback


The p90 needs better sound tags and the zoom bitmap is a bit taccy

The zat gun and staff weapon need better firing animations (more recoil)

The set up of the map is pretty cool, exactly like a classic sg1 shootout. Having the humans come through the stargate into the heat of battle could be cool too

Perhaps some more cover for the goauld when you come down the hill

Zat and staff sound tags are pretty good

A handgun for the humans aswell as the p90?

Frag and goauld stun grenades?
Edited by Muscl3r on Jan 22, 2012 at 03:10 PM

I don't suppose you can activate stargate? :|

Yea, my sound FX skill really suck tbh but I have been trying to get better.

How would you have done the zoom bitmap? I couldn't think of a better way considering the limitations on zoom bitmaps in Halo.

The staffweapon and zatgun have almost non-existant firing animations because in the series the do not have any recoil. I considered adding some anyway, but decided to try and make it as true to the series as possible.

We decided against a handgun for the humans because the p90 is significantly more effective than the staffweapon and zatgun so we felt that this was the best way to balance it.

I don't like grenades, and so on this map we decided not to have them, but we will probably use them in future maps.

THANK YOU FOR LEAVING FEEDBACK! I wish more people took the time to do that.

P.S. Have you found the secret weapon yet?

@Spartan314: Sry, not in this map.
Edited by Yoda on Jan 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM

I think the zoom bitmap could have a bit more detail to it and atleast have the same shape

The staffgun atleast would look way better with a tad more recoil

Another idea for weapon variety, perhaps you could have wraith and ori weapons scattered throughout the ruins. It may take time to make them and it might not be in context but maybe you could do it in a v2 of the final?


I will go hunting for the secret weapon now...

Not much detail could have been put into the scope bitmap because of the way Halo does those, but after looking at it again I agree that I could have made the shape a bit better.

I agree with you about the staffweapon and next time I use it in a map I think I will add some recoil. It might not be technically correct to the series that way, but I agree that it would look better.

The weapon variety in this map was pretty limited, but we kinda wanted that. It is just meant as a very straightforward team slayer map. The map is pretty small, the BSP isn't very complicated, there isn't much weapon variety, etc... but in this particular situation we wanted it that way.

Our first two maps (CO_Challenge01, and SG_Highground) were both remakes of maps that Jawa and I made a long time ago but never released because we didn't think we were good enough at mapping to release anything. But we don't have any more old crappy maps to remake, so we are trying to decide what to do next.

BTW, Our map and tagset are now up on halomaps.org

Map:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6248

Tagset:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6243

and PLEASE people, try to be more like Muscl3r , leave feedback. ANYTHING is appreciated. Comments, advice, criticism, compliments, insults, etc....
Edited by Yoda on Jan 24, 2012 at 02:36 PM

Really nice job, bsp is maybe not complex but staragte themed map for halo is a really good idea thanks for it :)

Thanks for the comment.

Have you played the map and/or used/tested the tagset at all?
If so, any feedback?



AND... has anyone found the secret weapon yet?

forgot about it

Another thing about the map is that the lack of cover on the hill and at the goauld spawn point could result in spawn camping :0

Possibly, although the goauld team has an advantage in that its spawn point cannot be seen from the Human base, while the human teams spawn point is wide open. We are actually more concerned about spawn camping against the humans. It is a bit to easy for one or two well placed goauld player with staffweapons to simply rain down explosions on the human spawn.

That maps design does have some flaws, although we had a blast playing the original version with friends. Which is why we decided not to alter it much (the design that is, we remade the bsp itselft.)

I'm going to be a bit brutally honest here: the reason not much people are checking out this map is because you guys aren't showing it off right. The screenshots I've seen of the map itself make it look simply like a wide open, quite flat map with boring cliffs and bad textures.

I'd love it if you guys put as much attention and effort into your map's BSP AND showing it off as you did with your weapons.

Have you tried the map?

Since we are done remaking old ideas, our BSPs will probably be getting better now. But tbh, that isn't really my department.

Basically the way that it works is that we decide on a map idea, then I do weapons (modelling, unwrapping, texturing, animating, tagging) and jawa does the BSP (designing, modelling, unwrapping, texturing, compiling) and then whichever one of us has time works on scenery objects.

I appreciate your "brutal honesty," it is way to difficult to get any kind if criticism lately. We will work on our BSP designs and hopefully improve as we release more maps. Any pointers for better "showing off" our maps?

Since the map is mostly about the gameplay and weapons take screenshots highlighting them and upload to the screenshot archive for the map.

Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to actually try the map due to lack of time, I just wanted to throw in my two cents because I noticed this project wasn't getting as much attention as you guys probably had hoped for.

As for showing off maps better: show the prettiest areas while a small, yet epic battle is going on. Really beautiful areas could be shown off without action going on, just as nice natural vistas.

For example, I noticed you have added in some cool ruins, however you didn't take any ingame pics of them! You should have a small screenshot for example of some humans being pinned down in a typical stargate battle :)

I will do that later today (probably) after classes. Thanks for the suggestion.



Yea, life kinda caught us by surprise over the winter break and we got almost no work done till the very end. Then we just finished everything up real quick, zipped it up, and uploaded. We probably should have taken the time to get some nice views of the ruins.

btw, if you get a chance to try it, I would love to hear your opinion on the weapons.

I'll probably get around to it on saturday sometime, will post my feedback when it's done :)

I don't have a lot of time right now (or anyone else to pose for screenshots at the moment), but a made a couple of screenshots showing the weapon a bit more.







Are these at least a little cooler?

I will try to get some better ones and then upload a few when I have some more time.

Those are cooler yeah, but they do illustrate how blurry the ground texture is. I'd recommend you guys put some more effort into making the environment look pretty and more diverse, cause the assets and ruins scenery show some fun potential imo, but the eye also wants something :)

Maybe I'll download the scenery and assets and play around with them, cause I think they do have potential if used in an interesting way.

That makes sense really. Most of our work went into the tags (both weapon and scenery), and I guess the BSP kinda suffered for it.

We have been trying to decide what we want to do next. Maybe we will do another stargate map, but this time to somthing more interesting and creative with the BSP. Jawa has been working on some theories about how to make a functioning gate, so.... that might be fun.