hey has someone a needle rifle as the one in this video http://www.youtube.com/user/isaaclmt#p/u/4/Rf4urRLg_jk
who can i ask for it

Nice model, could use better texturing, and definitely could use better animations. Who is the map by?

Eww.

That's what I was thinking the whole time.

i meant to the last needle rifle on the video and its of a friend

http://www.youtube.com/user/isaaclmt#p/u/8/QSNi4XG_uoE

this is the one lmt heretic meant

Still eww.

It could use some love, but i'd love to get my hands on it and see what i could do

that is horrible oh my lord who thought of this

Looks ok from 3P point of view. But the animations are...how can I put it?

yeah, yucky needle rifle.

I hope someone is making an awesome one

With some fixing, it would turn out pretty cool. ;)

I would cook up some animations for it if I had the weapon.

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=6049
I think there was one here..

you can't even replicate a needle rifle's functionality with halo 1's tagging system anyway

Could you be more specific about why it "CANT" be replicated?

As far as I know you can.

seven needle shots cause a supercombine in ce. not three.

the seventh shot does not cause the supercombine instantaneously.

therefore, you cannot replicate the functionality of the needle rifle
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Nov 6, 2011 at 04:01 PM

An Idea I have is maybe make it a burst weapon (3 projectiles in each) on the third burst you get a supercombine explosive, then make the projectiles so close together that it looks like one, only problem is the needle sticking out of there body might look weird.

Though there might be a way to fix that to.

Just an idea.

needle rifle spreads. you do that and add spread and three shots will spray all over.

still won't fix the instantaneous supercombine problem
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Nov 6, 2011 at 04:36 PM

key words

Are you sure? Because I have a needle rifle like weapon called the impaler in my zombies map dead_halls. However I never released the tags for it because it was poorly made, so it couldn't be the same one. Are you sure that's where you saw it, or did we really come up with the same name for two semi-similar weapons?

The Impaler in Ifafudafi's campaign uses a Covenant Carbine model. You just happened to come up with the same name for two similar weapons.

That's actually kind of funny. Anyway, I may have an idea to get the needle rifle to work, but I'm not sure yet. I'll get back to you if it works.

EDIT: It worked, sort of.

http://www.xfire.com/video/4feb67/

It fires three projectiles at once to simulate the 7 needed to super combine. It also allows for projectile error without separating the three fired at once.

I didn't really fine-tune anything in the video, so with enough time put into it, I'm sure that something very close to the needle rifle could work.
Edited by rerout343 on Nov 7, 2011 at 03:54 PM

I had a feeling that there was some way to get that to work. The only other thing you have to do at this point is to change the damage they do to shields as well as make them detonate immediately on contact with shields, and that should have it.

I've acquired a better model... but it's sketchup, so it's pretty messy. I'm cleaning it up right now.

There is a flag called "projectiles have identical error" which would make all the projectiles fired in that shot have the same error. I can confirm that this works and the above poster is right, make each pull of the trigger have 3 projectiles each for a total of 9 to create super combine, or 2 projectiles for 4.

Superdetonate would still function differently, though it should work reasonably well in that case

In the tests I've done it worked perfect, but that was a while back and I could be wrong.

the first two needles should stick around for a long time. It should detonate the very moment the third shot lands on an unshielded enemy. There should be zero delay. This is what cannot be reproduced on ce
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Nov 8, 2011 at 02:48 PM

Meh. We're going for something as close as it can get. Reach and CE are completely different games, so obviously it'd be surprising if we could get it to work.

E: Better model I found

Edited by Spartan314 on Nov 9, 2011 at 04:59 PM

Cheating time.

What about adding a permutation to all the bipeds that can only be hurt by needles. A single needle's explosion will heal the permutation by the same number of damage it has inflicted on it restoring it's health. However, when the permutation is destroyed, it would explode killing all the projectiles replicating a super combine.
-Zekilk

Wire frame?
Edited by grunt_eater on Nov 11, 2011 at 10:26 AM

you're saying have a permutation that takes damage from needles, three causing it to explode, but having the regular needle explosion heal it, so it will only explode when three needles have all landed?

...

might work.. though it sounds extremely hacky and probably unreliable.

Yea What he said ^^^, but if you want to spend time editing every biped just to get it to work go right ahead.

Meanwhile I'd rather work on the "almost perfect" method, I don't need an exact replica.

You can have damage that heals? I don't think so or we would have regenerators already.