Get a mic; commentary it

Do you honestly think when your setting up an encounter at all? Timelapse was pretty horrible, learn to place your firing positions correctly and set up the entire thing in a decent and interesting manor. I have a tutorial on how to set up encounters efficiently and better, if you'd like to see it.

I watched that one like twice. I'm also a Vidoc junkie. I've seen all of those bungie vidocs several times. I just don't get bored of them.

There's no thought to the encounters at all still. Learn from this kid, he's got a better Idea at it than you:

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5774

Well, though I can't map yet, it is sooo important that the bsp enhances your encounters (bungie of course designs theirs for a specific style of gameplay). They need to complement each other, and so should the AI difficulty, your weapons, the scenery placement, the ai movement, the sound. It all has to complement each other to make an experience that a) doesn't get boring b) isn't repetitive c) is interesting to watch and participate in d) is fun (big one) e) if you can get all of that, then it should just feel right. and feel smooth. It should make the player get a rush each and every time by making him solve problems and make decisions. That's incredible hard to pull off because you have to nailevery detail, is this assault rifle fun to use. Grr, that grunt keeps going over there, I don't like that. That elite is too cheap. These weapons don't make me feel like a bad**s. Fix it people. Don't let it slip and release a bunch of marines running at an army of grunts. Fix everything in your power to fix to as best as you can make it with your current skills. These are the kinds of mappers we need.
Edited by Xoronatus on Apr 6, 2011 at 08:44 PM

Quality is kind of bad, but may prove usefull.

BTW, the title should be Un sur Deux if its french.

We gave you useful crit the first time around. Excuses are not acceptable.



Okay so that's an ok basis I _guess_ but still not acceptable for just randomly spamming firing positions.



So? We're trying to make you get better, we don't usually slander until after we try to get you to improve and you say "N U I DUN HAFTA"


You're using ai bots. It is expected that you do not mean to make it for multiple players. therefore it is single ie "one" player... Even if that is what you mean to do, put more thought into it...
Edited by Dwood on Apr 7, 2011 at 08:10 PM
Edited by Dwood on Apr 7, 2011 at 08:11 PM

LOL NO, you are an idiot if you actually think that. "fight each other as players"... ok, well even if you set it up like the way you had done, the AI will basically be mindless and lots of random things will happen. e.g; if the AI wanted too, he could move to a position on the opposite side of the map or a random area. Not to mention you probably have at least a dozen firing positions overlapping and essentially no control over the AI what so ever.

Anyway, I've explained time and again how to create a decent encounter (not in the editor; actually designing one), and I've also explained how to make it in the editor.

Here:

"Higuys Tutorial on SP Design"
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5361

"Higuys AI scripting and placement"
http://vimeo.com/12915248
Edited by Higuy on Apr 7, 2011 at 08:36 PM

Spam != Super Fast.

Spam as in Placing a lot, randomly, no matter the speed, wherever you feel like, using one type of fpos for placement all the way through, resulting in bland encounters.

Higuy has given you tips to get better. Now take it, and become better at it or stay at your current skill level.

There is obviously a skill level where one person spams firing positions and another takes the liberty to plan them out. You don't have to agree with me, but the least you could do is try harder then what your doing now.

Those two were awesome. Most thoughtful things on the site.

Yeah, well I think it leans more towards the design of the encounters in Sapien than it does to the actor and actor variants. Those are important too, but it's the way that the AI interact with the surrounding environment and characters that counts most. Alhtough of course Guerilla still matters.

For my AI trainer project, to make human-like AI that flow in a multiplayer map will be very very complicated. But if the actors work with the design, that's caleld pro right there. It'll make you seem like a mod-god if you can make stuff that is interesting, fun, and doesn't suck. Lumoria is a good example. It doesn't suck. :D

P.S.
I remember reading a bungie technical discussion about AI. It said that programming and design need to work together perfectly to make a perfect encounter. But in my opinion, I think that design is a bit more important than programming.
Edited by Xoronatus on Apr 8, 2011 at 11:52 PM

We aren't telling you to quit. We're telling you to think more before you just place firing positions without any thought.

You're misunderstanding. It's not that the videos are bad, but that you're using bad processes. Use better processes, then post more videos.

The Sidewinder one was pretty good. Now they actually have more prominent defense areas and attack areas. :D
Edited by Xoronatus on Apr 9, 2011 at 06:51 PM

The point of having AI is to provide a challenge or make the game interesting for the player. AI only need character to look cool and fight each other well enough. Each type of AI unit (Elite, Grunt, Marine, etc.) has their own set of personality and characteristics that make them interesting, one reason why Halo was such a rave back in the day when it came out. The Time Lapse/Player-like AI aren't interesting if they don't have personality. They just seem like robotic, well, AI designed to be AI.

Who cares if you tagged the AI yourself, it dosen't matter. AI is AI, and they all have a similar way of working correctly or not.

You completely overshot my point. The way you set up your AI and how they correspond to each other is going to be way too robotic and bland.

And Higuy is right. Tagging is only a third of the battle. It's very easy to do and is also why i have not generally released my own Smart AI as of yet (I want to include a tut on how to utilize them the best ways possible).

Thats great. You could listen to us, and uh I don't know, get better results.