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Author	Topic: anyone willing to finish my biped? (32 messages, Page 1 of 1)
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thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 18, 2011 08:04 PM Msg. 1 of 32 free tags included for helping me complete this. hi. i recently made a biped that will be a player but isnt a spartan. just the other day i finished rigging the model to flow correctly. i, however am new at animating and i dont understand it. i have the model all set (gave her bones and did all the skin editing) and its ready for animation. i just dont understand how to do it. i will give the biped plus a few other tags to someone whos willing to help me with this. i just need her in game holding weapons and doing all the things mc does except for getting in vehicles. vehicle animations arent really actually nessesary for the mod im trying to do. those in the forums who like the game knights of the old republic would be interested in this biped. is someone willing to animate her for me? as ive said il give whoever wishes to help the biped at its final result and i will also throw in a couple other things if they are interested. i would like personally to include that this character is one of my favorites and ive been DYING to get them into halo for quite a few years i just didnt know where to start. thank you all who are interested and thanks everyone for making halo such a great game -helti

ally Joined: Jun 23, 2010 Aye Ready	Posted: Mar 18, 2011 10:06 PM Msg. 2 of 32 wish i could help you with this,but bipeds and animating are some of the things i can't do much of. i hope someone else who can help you sees your enthusiasm,and helps you with it. Edited by ally on Mar 18, 2011 at 10:06 PM

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 18, 2011 10:48 PM Msg. 3 of 32 id like to get that done soon. hopefully so i can help my freind with his zelda map. anyone good at animating?

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 19, 2011 05:57 PM Msg. 4 of 32 that surprises me a bit! well idk why but i had to change the bones a bit because its a female character. or at least i thought i did. why would i use master chiefs structure on a female character? they have completely different bodies lol. (this isnt a spartan... i tried scaling mcs bones but it gave me an error saying: the model 'characters\bastila2\bastila3' and the animation graph 'characters\cyborg\cyborg' don't match 03.15.11 23:16:10 the object 'characters\cyborg\bastila' will not animate 03.15.11 23:16:10 the model 'characters\bastila2\bastila3' and the collision model 'characters\cyborg\cyborg' don't match (node counts don't match) 03.15.11 23:16:10 the object 'characters\cyborg\bastila' will not be collidable 03.15.11 23:16:17 OUT OF OBJECTS: cannot create: bastila im thinking that it wants me to do new animations. i tried messing with the node checksum. it didnt seem to help. maybe im just doing it wrong? i would like some awnsers and help so this biped gets finished. if its possible id like to use mc's animations. i dont know why it wont let me though. so i figured id create new ones.... someone please get back to me soon i only have 3 days to complete this!

rerout343 Joined: Aug 7, 2010 Targeted and Firing	Posted: Mar 19, 2011 06:06 PM Msg. 5 of 32 Rig it to the marine's bones. You may run into a few issues with them, but they will be much more fitting for your biped. And don't worry about rescaling, the pilot from A10 is female yet the rig is almost identical to that of the Marine.

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 19, 2011 06:27 PM Msg. 6 of 32 how do i get the marines bones? i actually had to download a mc boneset. then do you use the mc animations?

rerout343 Joined: Aug 7, 2010 Targeted and Firing	Posted: Mar 19, 2011 06:31 PM Msg. 7 of 32 If you have the marine extracted from any of the campaign levels, just import the marines gbxmodel using bluestreak, delete the geometry, and leave the bones and markers. Edit: Don't use the MC's animations/collision, use the marine's. Edited by rerout343 on Mar 19, 2011 at 06:32 PM

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 20, 2011 07:45 PM Msg. 8 of 32 hey um it wont let me import bones from a gbxmodel i just get blue spheres. what do i do? edit: figured out that they were frozen and hidden... why??? i have NO idea..... Edited by thellt on Mar 21, 2011 at 09:31 PM

rerout343 Joined: Aug 7, 2010 Targeted and Firing	Posted: Mar 20, 2011 08:27 PM Msg. 9 of 32 Make sure you turn on the checkbox titled import all nodes as bones Like this:

XlzQwerty1 Joined: Aug 6, 2009	Posted: Mar 20, 2011 08:29 PM Msg. 10 of 32 If you are only importing the bones, you can uncheck the Import Model Geometry.

rerout343 Joined: Aug 7, 2010 Targeted and Firing	Posted: Mar 21, 2011 08:35 AM Msg. 11 of 32 Yes but I always import the untextured model just to make sure every thing is aligned properly.

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 21, 2011 09:25 PM Msg. 12 of 32 halp pleasche!!! what the fudgebars does this mean? --------------- (side note in caps not because of yelling but because its imperitive i get this done...) --------------- I NEED SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO BIPED RIG TO HELP ME ON XFIRE AND TEAMVIEWER. IM GOING CRAZY CAUSE ITS DUE THIS WEEK!!! Edited by thellt on Mar 21, 2011 at 09:30 PM

bobbysoon Joined: Feb 1, 2007	Posted: Mar 24, 2011 03:58 PM Msg. 13 of 32 Can't have verts weighted between more than 2 bones. Set the skin's bone limit to 2, and re-adjust the weights as needed

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 24, 2011 04:27 PM Msg. 14 of 32 so by changing weights, do you mean modifying the abs affect? cause after changing the bone thingy (which fixed a few flaws btw) it still wouldnt export... i didnt think this would be as complicated as it is.

bobbysoon Joined: Feb 1, 2007	Posted: Mar 24, 2011 04:50 PM Msg. 15 of 32 Bone Affect Limit, in Advanced Parameters rollout

XlzQwerty1 Joined: Aug 6, 2009	Posted: Mar 24, 2011 09:45 PM Msg. 16 of 32 NO, that is NOT the error. you may want to rerig that, one or more vertecies are not weighted by any bone (0.0 effect)

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 26, 2011 09:38 PM Msg. 17 of 32 it still wont go away no matter what i do. i need help finding the vertecies that arent weighted can someone please help me on teamviewer? plz? il give tags!!!

XlzQwerty1 Joined: Aug 6, 2009	Posted: Mar 27, 2011 11:07 AM Msg. 18 of 32 You have to just rerig everything, but start with one bone and select all the vertecies. Then use 1.0 weight effect, and start rigging everything else from there. This is to make sure that no vertex will be unweighted. AFTER YOU ARE DONE RIGGING, go into the weight table menu, then go to the first option at top left and select Delete vertecies with zero weight

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 27, 2011 07:37 PM Msg. 19 of 32 insert extreme frustration expression and sound here this doesent make any sence to me. im supposed to be using a bone set and your telling me to use one bone for every vertecies and... BLECH! all of it is getting way too complicated. im finished with this project because im too angry cause nothing i ever do seems to work the way it should. i thought i was going to do a kotor mod. i guess not. BLASPHEMY!!! why does halo have to be so hard. if anyone wants to finish the rigging process and at least get her in game for me please post here and il send you the biped (please post any fixed 3ds files and the final result here as well so that others can gain knowlegge and experience to help them with other bipeds in the future.). if nobody is interested in fixing it then eff it. biped rigging is total bs. its too complicated. if only jahrain were here and able to help. im asking everyone for their help on teamviewer. and it seems as though nobody is interested. i just need someone show me how to fix what ive already came close to doing. heres the picture of the biped. if anyone wants to see her... http://thellt.webs.com/bastila%20in%20halo.png this is helti. please pm me on xfire (lordhellt) if your interested in continueing this project. edit: qwerty? are you interested in finishing the biped for me? i pmed you a link to the file if your interested Edited by thellt on Mar 27, 2011 at 07:39 PM

XlzQwerty1 Joined: Aug 6, 2009	Posted: Mar 27, 2011 08:30 PM Msg. 20 of 32 I'm already too busy doing other projects and school related projects. Just dont give up. I'm not that good of an explainer but someone else would be able to "translate" what I said and tell you what to do.

Nebulon Joined: Jan 6, 2008 I am a noble warrior!	Posted: Mar 29, 2011 01:28 PM Msg. 21 of 32 insert epic return theme music here Yeah. I'm back, people. I can help finish this for you if you are still looking for someone. I won't be able to do custom animations, but I can figure out how to get the biped in-game.. I might not have posted many, but I have done a few of my own bipeds in the time I worked with C.E. BTW, I will not be able to go on Xfire because of the network my college has up blocks it... so... PM me if you need me and I will send you the details on how you can get the files to me if you are interested.

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Mar 30, 2011 09:22 PM Msg. 22 of 32 oh mah gosh! (said in a south park accent) this would be something wonderful. a gift from the gods lol. anyways. i would request your help. and ive uploaded em already to be honest. they havent had many downloads yet. but i am pleased to say im excited to get this finished. i will send you a link to the rawr file with the stuff. ok thank you for your time and effort and consideration.

Nebulon Joined: Jan 6, 2008 I am a noble warrior!	Posted: Apr 8, 2011 01:41 PM Msg. 23 of 32 So far, she is in! Check the email I sent for a pic, dude. All that is left is to get a working collision model, and to make multipurpose maps.

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Apr 10, 2011 05:09 PM Msg. 24 of 32 hmm... odd thing is that i belive i didnt get that picture.... lol. edit 4/15/11 8:54 pm mst... updates? Edited by thellt on Apr 15, 2011 at 10:55 PM

pale99 Joined: May 14, 2011 "Alone against all these droids..."	Posted: Aug 4, 2011 08:40 PM Msg. 25 of 32 updates? thelt i am really anticipating your map (or series) just saying.......

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Nov 23, 2014 02:37 AM Msg. 26 of 32 got some bsp im working on.... just so you all know... making a ship.... like an ebon hawk in size but its a starship for the sith as the star forge is destroyed....... also the bastila biped is successful... bastila is indeed in HALO!.... (i did a little bit of editing for her to see as i like) ;) i need a way to rip opengl to get actual kotor maps into halo. anyone who finds a way (like dxripper) will be praised... untill then it will have to be all custom content..... updates? i got some if youre willing to wait...... i will be upping screenshots soon :) but i have to work some more..... :/ Edited by thellt on Nov 23, 2014 at 04:48 AM

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Nov 23, 2014 10:53 AM Msg. 27 of 32 Quote: --- Original message by: sparky This isn't really the place to discuss "that kind of thing" ...are you high or something? This is exactly the place to talk about anything going into the game, regardless of origin. I wouldn't see why 3D Ripper DX wouldn't work to the end described.

OrangeJuice Joined: Jan 29, 2009 Documentation and debug.txt	Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:30 AM Msg. 28 of 32 Probably yet another ploy to get people to discuss it at "yet another MyFirst InvisionFree Forum".com But yes it's perfectly acceptable practice because nobody ever C&Ds haloCE content. Most of the zelda maps are direct rips save for a few houses that were a mess of random polygons :) And it definitely works for its job Edited by OrangeJuice on Nov 23, 2014 at 11:30 AM

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Nov 23, 2014 04:45 PM Msg. 29 of 32 ive not gottem 3d ripper dx to work to rip from kotor..... it rips bipeds and armor and other actual models but bsp is all opengl from what i heard.... 3d ripper dx unless theres an update i know not about........ might or might not work... depending ont he update.... then i will have to figure out another way..... HOWEVER! im working on some bsp reguardless! all from scratch Edited by thellt on Nov 23, 2014 at 04:47 PM

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Nov 24, 2014 05:17 PM Msg. 30 of 32 Quote: --- Original message by: sparky Like I said, this is not the place to discuss this kind of thing. When I was participating in these kinds of tasks among the members of another forum who like to reverse engineer other games like Knights of the Old Republic, I was using Milk Shape 3D for the task of converting model files from the game. The typical task of ripping assets from other games -- which again should not be discussed here and is worth locking this topic if it is discussed here, because it infringes upon copyright from other games besides modding Halo: Custom Edition maps -- involves de-obfuscating the packed archives, using a community-developed or developer-released tool to extract the assets you want (which is illegal), and then converting those assets into other compatible assets and fixing them up as you want. This is what I did with the A-Wing from the Jedi Knight games when I retrofitted the model for use in one of my older Jedi Knight mods for Halo Demo. I later added it among my other contributions to fixing up a beta version of Halo: Star Wars from Halo Custom Edition (off of HaloMaps.org) to Halo Mini Demo. But again, I encourage you to not extract assets from other copyrighted games, because this is illegal, and any further discussion of illegal activities should be avoided on this forum. As it is, I did not continue to extract other assets from those games for Halo. I did do some creative work with the Star Wars music, but it was not part of my abandoned "Jedi Knight conversion". Empirical evidence indicates your opinions on the matter evidently do not coincide with those of the moderator's, so your points are ultimately irrelevant.

thellt Joined: Feb 14, 2009 chiperdilly the great 1999-2017	Posted: Nov 24, 2014 06:04 PM Msg. 31 of 32 not that i want this to be a debate. or turn into a debate thread.... (that would be another useless waste of bandwidth...) .... but i have one thing to say about that. why does it have to be.... such that the rips cant be made original with addistions or modifications? also what makes you think that its illegal? if we give credit where credit is due? and we dont sell it? or make it any more easy to reverse enginner? kotor has had a lot of mods added to the games engine.... i find it that many people have already used assets from all the other star wars games and imported into jedi knight.... besides isnt that the point to having a CUSTOM EDITION? "custom = make it what you want." so many other games have had assets ripped.... this forum has mw1 amd 2 content, and star wars conetent, mario, zelda, nintendo etc. all this other stuff already is stuff on this forum.... we see that this is not a problem with mearly porting content... but rather someone being rectal and choosing the wrong place/battle/time to fight..... relax. im not taking credit for biowares work.... im mearly bringing it to other people to enjoy :) now.... does anyone else want to see the biped/content? or are we all gonna start another flame war? Edited by thellt on Nov 24, 2014 at 07:54 PM Edited by thellt on Nov 24, 2014 at 07:55 PM Edited by thellt on Nov 24, 2014 at 08:07 PM

Super Flanker Joined: Oct 5, 2012 The length of your life depends on my aim.	Posted: Nov 28, 2014 10:23 AM Msg. 32 of 32 More side boob. But good job.

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