dennis loves my enthusiasm :P

got updates slappy?
Edited by Ubergoober on Sep 9, 2011 at 02:09 AM

So it's been a while....Anything new? updates, news, anything at all would be awesome =)

No.
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Sep 15, 2011 at 06:17 PM

Okay....Might i ask what's holding things up and if i may see what i can do to help i any way...

Trust me, there's really nothing that can be done. Jesse's been missing in action, just as we were finishing.
Wait... what? His profile says he's here? Last time logged in was today?
JESSE, CHECK YOUR PMS.

another sandtrap....

Nah, I'm back for the weekend at least. I didn't have a chance to even touch my computer or my XBOX. I've been swamped with my Philosophy class, Logistics class, Wood working class (Where I built a building model), AP english class, and exploring the LA River tunnel systems. I am dedicating the rest of today for halo stuff.

Edited by Jesse on Sep 24, 2011 at 04:50 PM

Did you check your private message inbox yet? As soon as you can please send me your valhalla so I can finish before this 'sandtrap's.
Speaking of sandtrap, I textured some more sandtrap.

Pictures mabye?

Top secret stuff.

NOOOOO, it's the worst kind of secret, TOP SECRET.

So while I wait for debug lightmaps to compile I thought I'd upload some pics.
(Go tool go http://postimage.org/image/rh0pek84/ )

Jesse popped by, finally, and now we've got our combined progress.
Here's some stuff.

I tried to tag this, jesse apparently fixed the model or got a fixed model from someone. It's a bit small but I cropped it so you can't tell so much. Ssh.

I've been wondering about the fog for the map, and people like to judge pictures, so I here's some pictures for you to judge.
The fog had been causing some wackyness. I fixed it, but in the process really got down to tweaking the fog.
Here's no fog at all:

'somefog.jpg':

'morefog.jpg':

Wat do

I'm open to talk about grifball but I won't show any pics yet... I don't really want random people to know what assets I currently am using.
Other work I've been doing is model work for the halo 3 ui, you can see that in the halo 3 ui thread.

Personally I haven't played Halo 3... but I think with that environment, morefog.jpg looks best.

somefog.
Nofog is too unreal and morefog dulls everything so there is no vibrant colors and it makes me crai

Is there an option between somefog and morefog?

After repeated revision, somefog is truer to Halo 3's lighting of Valhalla.

Edited by DarkHalo003 on Oct 1, 2011 at 08:07 PM

I agree, somefog.

Okay seriously, why don't the tree's leaves show up in the shadows?

Qwerty could probably tell me, he made the tree shaders.

more fog makes things look more distant

which i like
Edited by Wesker on Oct 2, 2011 at 01:16 AM

I have no knowledge on this but I'm gonna make an assumption that those leaves are "transparent" to the fact that objects in game (bullets, nades...) won't collide with it so it won't show the shadows. (I always thought it was like this but I wasn't too sure.)

it's render only, but does render only mean it will help cast shadows? not sure. What would be possible though I can say for sure is if you run lightmaps with the versions of the trees that have collidable leaves. Those should definitely cast shadows.

Somefog. Looks nice.

Looking good. Liek that fusion coil. Pretty dang good.

The fusion coil is ridiculously tiny. It's not terribly hard to scale it up.
Oh and somefog.
As for the trees not casting shadows with their leaves, I think that might be due to the collision model or to what eliteslasher said. Idk 4 sure.

This is due to the tree's collision model not including the leaves, and when there in the collision model make sure it uses the % command on the material but not the !.

Also I can see it on the stream from in that pic, you should add a small alpha on the water that way the edges don't cut right into the ground, and instead blend nicely (it will look so much better).

Thank for pointing that out, yes the fusion coil is WAY TOO small. This version appears to be almost as small as a big water cantine, it's a barrel it needs to be the size of a barrel plus that's not the size of it in Halo 3. Please fix it.
Edited by 1bobsam1 on Oct 2, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Edited by 1bobsam1 on Oct 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM

I've mentioned that it was smaller than normal and obviously it needs to be sized up.
I've decided on some fog.

Update-
I've scaled them up now, just gotta get them to move more when you melee them. Not entirely sure how this should be done... I'm thinking damage effects.
Edited by SlappyThePirate on Oct 2, 2011 at 03:16 PM

Just wondering are you ever going to do like a version 2 of Grif ball where it is much more refined or not?

I think that more fog would be correct, just look at this:

Either use more fog or increase some fog by a little bit so you can at least see some blueish tint.

Yeah, but I'm going to finish valhalla first. Then I can finish the next version of grifball. Working on both at the same time is pretty tough.

So I'm thinking of bumping the fusion coils down to scenery or device machines. The vehicle way isn't too great, at least not right now.
Since last update I've gotten the missile pod to give the player a movement penalty (regardless of whether it is readied or not), and I'm finishing up the plasma pistol EMP function that can stop enemy vehicles when you hit them with an overcharge.
Weapon 'backpacking' works for the weapons in the map that you hold on your back. There are some that you're supposed to hold on your thigh, specifically the pistols, smg, and spiker. It'll take some re-exporting of models, which is easy but time consuming, to get these thigh-holstered weapons to function properly as such.

this is epic i can't sleep now

"Some fog" looks right but "no fog" makes it look much more vibrant. I, personally, like "No fog" better, but you do need some. Maybe make "some fog" have 3 quarters of the amount it has and make the blue a stronger color so you still have the blue tint but doesn't dull the colors as much

it would look something like this

instead of this

Edited by grunt_eater on Oct 2, 2011 at 09:00 PM

Since fog seems to desaturate the landscape, I think I'll do morefog, but like grunt eater said, use a more saturated color. Morefog is accurate to qwerty's reference in depth, but not in color imo.

It's your map so it's your choice, but like i said i think that the amount of fog in the map dulls the colors of the textures. It gives you no contrast, and makes the map look bland imo. witch is why i suggested a stronger shade of blue but also not too much fog so the bitmaps still look good

Hey! Give me my words back! You stole them right out of my mouth!