So..i was recently wondering if there is a way to get a hand on the Halo CE Source code? Or maybe even the HEK Source code? And if so...is it illegal? I mean....ya it would be cool and all, but the fact is is that could Bungie and or Microsoft sue the people with the source code....or would they? That's the question....Would Bungie and or Microsoft sue the person (or group of people) who remade there game. I personally would love to have a copy of the Halo CE and even the HEK source code. But, if i did have a copy.....would anyone help me improve the game? Like maybe making a better Multiplayer experience! Maybe making it so that AI actually Synchronize over the internet. Or making it so that you can play Firefight over the internet also. Also, that's another question...would people decide to pitch in and help make a better Halo CE? I for sure would love to make a better version of Halo CE. Anyways....I am getting a head of myself, but i just thought throwing that out there would be a cool idea.

Thanks

Videoman

In a word: No. It is proprietary software owned by Microsoft and they do not open source their copyrighted material.

From what i can tell.....this is the source code from Halo CE and HEK. Or am i (some how) wrong about this is not the source code? Hmm? If i am wrong...then please correct me. But if i am right, then some how Kornman00 got a hold on the Halo CE and HEK source code. What ever the case is.....to me this source code he has looks pretty convincing.


Videoman
Edited by videoman on Sep 8, 2010 at 06:25 PM

It's not the Source Code.

To describe it...it's sort of like an 'extension' to the source code, rather than actually having the real thing and modifying it.

So....what's the point of have a "source code extension"? I mean...what good is it? What can you do with it?

You can do things in the game that you could never do with the regular engine. That's what open sauce is all about.

So, using this source code...is it possible to improve the game engine? Like making a better multiplayer experience...like shall we say: Making AI synchronize online? Would that be possible?

lol no... we would need the netcode

If you mean open sauce, no, not a better engine. Only better gameplay concepts, and better features, and other better stuff, but not a better engine, graphics, or netcode.

So in-turn...there is no way to improve multiplayer experience? And no one have ever been able to get a copy of the netcode? and even make a better version? And farther more...why does Kornman's Source code have a "Networking" Folder in the archive that he uploaded for general public use? I mean...what is the "Networking" folder for?

oh no dont get me started on this. Technically there is no source code. its lost. no one has it trust me i spent like over 6 months tracking this thing down to find out not even bill gates has it, no one has the code. it was lost a long time ago.

kinda pathetic for such a big company to lose the source code for a game, regardless how old the game is.

It is in the long lost archive of MSDN Locked Away Archives, they would not lose the source code of such a massive game, how do you think they made the 1.09 update not so long ago, and ported it to 360 in Nov. 2008

Besides, I would assume you could rip the source code from the game files... or am I sadly mistaken.

I dont think anybody noticed my latest post....why is there a "Networking" folder in Kornman's source code upload? Can anyone tell me what the "Networking" folder is actually for?

Thanks

Open sauce is a memory hack, a very clever and well thought out one, but a memory hack nonetheless. It operates by manipulating memory variables in the running game to make changes or allow you to write extensions to the operation of the game accessible from those memory locations. Open Sauce is a set of predefined modules, or an SDK, that you need to write code to use. It is NOT the source code of the game. The major flaw with open sauce is that it is version specific. Meaning that it will only operate on a specific version of the game, right now 1.08, so all those people with a different version or a hacked pirate game will not be able to use anything anyone makes with open sauce. All those people who have used that abomination of a program version changer will also be out of luck as well.

The answer to your original questions is: No you can not get the source code because is a proprietary software copyrighted by Microsoft.

I believe he updated it to 1.09 now but I can't quite find the exact post at this moment in time...

It hasn't been released yet, hence the "right now" qualifier in my previous statement.

So Dennis....from what you are saying, there is no way to improve the multiplayer game play? Even using open sauce? And in addition to that....is there a way to extract the game source code? I am not sure if asking this last question is violating the forum rules. So please don't bring down the ban hammer if it is. I was just wondering.

Thanks everyone for clearing up this whole "Halo Source code" thing.


Videoman

I assume you could find a way to get the source code out of the game files.

Maybe somebody can find a way to decipher the code that you see when you open something like Halo.exe in notepad. Of course, that would take considerable time and probably wouldn't give you everything that the source code has to offer.
Edited by AGLion on Sep 7, 2010 at 06:45 PM

Asking reasonable questions is not only NOT against the rules it is why the forum is here in the first place.
No I am not saying that. I am saying that any enhancement or third party program has it's limitations. Even in the case of open sauce there is only so much you can do when manipulating memory locations. and anything that would make a major change in game-play would require that all people would have to run the same third party utility. So far they have not yet been created.
Even if there was the copyright laws prohibit it as does the End User License Agreement (EULA) and Microsoft would most likely stop any and all violations of that type.

You don't own commercial software. You license it. Essentially you just rent it for a one time fee. Just because you have it in your possession does not mean you can do anything you want with it such as decompile it and change it. You have to look at the EULA and the copyright laws to determine what you are allowed to do with it.

Edited by Dennis on Sep 7, 2010 at 06:50 PM

Dennis is correct.



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Straight from the EULA.