9-15-2010 :

This topic seems kind of old now but it was an announcement for a new mapping team. The mapping team that this topic is all about doesn't officially exist yet but there are people woring on it using PM's. Load's of people have told me they are intrested in joining so I do my best starting this all as soon as posseble. At this moment I am trying to finish the official website. When the website is running this halo mapping team will launch!

Whatch so special about this mapping team?
This mapping team (whitch hasn't got a name yet) will be most different from other mapping team when you look at the members. The most know mapping teams are simply about eight persons that know what they are doing and spent some time making maps together. This mapping team allows everyone intrested to join! If you have a good idea for a map and the rest of the team agrees that your idea is the best, that idea will be our next project. Everyone can create pieces of the map and upload those. Together the whole team will be making the map. To avoid people having nothing to do because there are finished doing what they are good at we will do a couple of map projects at the same time.

Doesn't that give a mess whit everyone willing to do something else?
No. The disigner of the map disides what comes in the map and what doesn't, to avoid such a mess. Also the whole team can vote whitch ideas they think are the best so the disigner doesn't have to go trough al off it.
Also the disigner can ask someone else to go on whit his project for him. For example if the disigner only likes to draw things and doesn't want to be involved in the creation of it he simply asks someone else to do that whit or for him.

Does the team only makes maps?
Making Haloce maps is the main purpos of the team, but ofcourse that also invokes testing maps, hosting servers and we could ofcourse also act as a kind of clan.
It looks a lot like the halomaps.org comunity. We even make "machinima's" to promote our maps or the team!

So why haven't you started the team yet?
As I told before I am still trying to finish the official website. When the website is running this halo mapping team will launch. We need the webist to support this team. Otherwise there would be no way of knowing who is doing what. The website sould keep the team together and make it easy for members to comunicate whit the rest of the team.

So this is a probies only team?
Everyone is welcome, but ofcourse we also need some 'more experienced" map makers. Some of them don't like the idea of having many people in a mapping team but I would like to ensure you it will work out. The biggest advantage is that everything goes faster and whit more time for detail! Don't think this team is for 'probies' only, because it's not. The team won't work whitout experienced map-creators.
I recoment that if you join you know how to do whatever you plan to do. If you would like to help modeling you should ofcourse know how to model. But if you are only in to give some good ideas for maps all you need to know is how to make a good map.

What if I am in an other team already?
That doesn't matther at all. You dicide where to help and where not. If you like to join this team but don't want to leave the other that is no problem. We would however like you to keep the projects of this team whitin this team only. It woulnd't be fun for anyone if idea's we have where copyed.


I hope many people are intrested in joining us when we launch. Please feel free to reply.


EDIT:
For those who want a preview, here is the disign for the website. Note that this is drawn by someone else I just got it from the internet, but I nearly finished creating it.




Edited by Niels on Sep 15, 2010 at 01:49 PM

I think I know what you're getting at here, and I like it. I'm capable of doing all the listed things except for music compiling, but I'll look into it. I hope for the best for this team.

Well, if you still have openings for modelers, particularly in positions of leadership, I would be interested. I could use some help on my map I'm working on now.

I've got some pretty good vehicle ideas for my own maps...but the problems I have are other people taking credit for them...that's why I hesitate. But if theres a solution for this, I'm in.
Edited by Echoes on Aug 13, 2010 at 10:37 PM

Why do u need guys that machinima's?

yo niels! been a wile :D

anyway, ima in a map team and i was thinking that u could join us instead? unless u wana be a rival with us xD

Ok guys i'm back from vacation and I have some answers:

Every help is usefull all posisions are open, also leading posisions. Its a team so their aint any kind of boss there is just the guys that do things and the guys that both do thing and make disisions. So yea your welcome.
Then there is the credit thing. If you think up something it's eiterrejectet by the team for that moment or we start creating it. The same thing for vehicels. In eigther way the one that originally came up whit it get's the credit for it. However If someone else does the modeling on your disign he/she gets the credit for the part of the modeling he/she did on it. You still get the credit for the idea of the vehicle and whatever else you have done.
The machinima is a kind of explaining what we have done how we have done it what the map looks like and all that stuff. Also it's a kind of atvertising the maps we make. We discuss the map and show you parts of it. That way you get a good understanding of what the map is about and whether you want to dowload it or not. I belive I should actually call it a revieuw. I don't wana rival any other mapping team. It's not like haha we are better or we can do that better. We just pick up ideas from other and make our own and try to make a map as good as posseble.

I hope you guys like the concept. I'm still working on a site so we have some place to form the team offically. QAs for the map I'm having a real hard time to get the pickture I have in my head to an actual disign. I just can't get it on paper and I could use some help thinking out the details of it. The same problem for the site. I found a nice template but that one is copyrighted so I need to make my own version of it. unfortenetly I'm not THAT good at html and other site scripting I can modify stuff but creating new things is really hard. Let's just post that picture:



If anyone can help me build this template (or atleast something that looks a lot like it) Please contact me. Also we need some kind of login system, a forum just like this one and some pages. The pages and the forum I can handle myself.
Edited by Niels on Aug 19, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Edited by Niels on Aug 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Clans with websites will deteriorate.

Trust me, I used to be in a Halo Trial modding team called {SGW} a few years back.
They had a nice website set up, but the clan fell apart because of the lack of coordination between the mainsite (halotrialmods) and the clan site (shotgunwarriorz).

The same may happen here, I would worry more about the projects and less about the website(s).
Edited by MoooseGuy on Aug 19, 2010 at 01:51 PM

Well no it looks like a h3 site (infact it probebly is) but thats just an example its at the moment only meant to be a halo ce mapping team but if possebilities come up to do more than just ce later maybe that will be added.

As for moooseguy;

Ah that makes sence. And its axactly what the site should prevent! :P
At the first place I don't think a clan is the correct word I like it as a 'team'. Just people working togeter on making maps not people as rivals of other groups.
Now it's not one good site that made your clan/team deteiorate, it was two that failed to work together. Now a team needs good coordination. that means everyone on the team needs to have a good opertunity to comunicate to the rest of the team and people need the opertunity to listen to him / her. Therefore there must be a good site where the whole team kind of comes togther. Now in your case for some reason there where two. That makes the team members get conviused about whitch site they're actually part of and where to comunicate whit the team. One site says they should be working on project one while the oter talks about project 2. Therefore the clan/team deteriorates. So I need one good simple site where everyone understands axactly what is going on and I need people who can keep the stuff running.
For example of that last, when I go on vakation for 3 weeks and noone does anything anymore on the site the members of the team get bored and start beliving the team felt apart. They might think there on there own and quit it therefore. Imagen noone posts on this forum for 3 weeks after now. Would you come back here after 3 weeks of waiting a reply on a question you posted? Well atleast you would loose trust in this comunity.

Wow I;m starting to write something long again because i'm tiered :P. Now it's probebly full of bad spelled english :). I go catch some sleep see if I make more sence tomorrow :P. Let's put this in red so people that get bored reading the stuff above read this little part first :D .

You should only try to read it if your friends recently told you to get a life =D.

Don't be a troll niels

sounds kind of stupit wen I say it but: What is trolling acactly? It was a joke btw don't take it serous.... 0_o

i am pretty sure it's another word for being a cruel person who spams by trying to hurt people with their words and flame them until they turn emo and begin to cut themselves open like a turkey



good thing you were joking

:D

lololloollololoololololololol
Edited by Architect of Halo on Aug 20, 2010 at 08:13 PM

Than how can anyone see ME as a troll!? I'm as medium as they come! (Not gonna say soft :P)

i can mix and match tags to make something cool

like i made a g18 with a usp, assult rifle, and smg
or i made a soda machine vehicle with scenery tags

so yeah i you want me pm me

Vehicle & map design ftw, ideas, sketching, beta testing and balancing

Besides, you don't need to have rival teams, two teams can team up on one big project. Full credit will be given to the person who's idea it was, and the person who made it real, for those concerned about sharing credit,

For instance, if anyone wants to use my ideas, they slap on my name for "design" or something, and then the person who actually modelled it gets their name in credits too, so anyone who helps gets credit, and nobody gets left out if they help.

i'm willing to do some tweaking with vehicles or post sketches of whatever (designs, map layouts etc)

But i'd like to work with a map that is already started (i dunno how to start one myself, so i'll need something to work with)

No problem there will be multiple map projects at the same time so everyone can do something. By this time I am developing the plans for a couple of AWSOME maps! But you guys probebly wonder why we haven't started yet.

As I told before I am building a site for our still nameless team so we can work our mpas on our own forum own uploadsystem and well own everything. That should make things a lot easyer.

So how far is the site? I try to give it a rating in %. However I must warn you guys for the shocking news; it's still gonna take some weeks I think. Why? Well the loginsystem has to be integrated whit the forum and that is EXTREMLY diffecult. Also I am still looking for a good forum to use or I will have to make one my own whitch is REALLY hard.

AWSOME template (website layout): 90%
Login system: 65%
Forum: 10%
Video page: 5%
Upload system: 7%
Project page: 15%
News page: 8%

Now that looks really bad but that login system from 0% to 65% took me just 3 days whitch is awsome. Allso to login system is extremly secure. No way anyone hacks that. And even if there is a pro out there whitch can he won't bother doing that to a halo mapping team :P.

The news page is a conflict whit the template whitch means that when I solve that it will just take me like 2 day to get that to 100%

The upload system awaits the login system.
The video system awaits the upload system.

But I am truly working hard on it every day so it will be there :D!

wow good effort. we need to think up a name. i vote NEX, means violent murder in latin, and it's my old training clan's name

eeehh, rejected :P. Sounds like a long shot...

As for the progress:

-Upload-system: ON-HOLD
(I've been doing research and even troug the server is unbeliveble good it's not THAT good. It could only handle a map like hugeass 300 time before it overloads :P. No seriously I have te resoure but I Abort it till later reseach is done I want to make sure it doesn't make the site a mess. I will however replace it for now whit a system that allows download links form this site to be used. Nothing Dennis would mind :P.)

-Login system:89%
(yet to make a member list, admin control and a register form (kind of importent :P) Also the login field is messed up but I should be able to fix that fast.)

-AWSOME template (website layout): 91%
(Will be done soon)

-All the pages together like the project page: 18%

-Forum: Stustus unknown (could go fast or could jam the whole site)
God a bit lost in this part probebly have to make my own since forums made by others will never fit the system.


Just so you guys know these number do not move slow at all! I put days in this and It is paying off rapitly! The only concerns I have so far is the forum.


Edited by Niels on Sep 12, 2010 at 06:37 PM

Nex Est Oriundus Supremus, and yes, i know it wasn't translated properly, not my choice. i just thought of the slogan.

What do you mean by long shot? it was just a joke dude. A mapping team has nothing to do with my old training & piloting clan, so the name wouldn't actually make sense, hence the joke (not a ha ha joke, a messing around joke)

So ignoring some jokes made over there ^ :

I am still working on that site but while creating the member list I got a overload error. I just found out that the max_ sql_ questions is set to 100,000 by the host. Becaus it's free hosting I can't change that but this makes my worry about the number of people that can visit the site in one hour. For those who don't know about SQL:

Data like usernames passwords and other userrelated data is stored in a SQL database. That database is called by the website script to do something. That calling is done by the forum the memberlist and the loginsystem. Apearently I am only allowed to call that database 100,000 time. This could mean that I can't support many members in one hour using this host. I'm searching for options to solve that problem.

Nomather what the mapping-team will exist! I have also been working on my mapdisigns and t the moment I selected 2 projects to start whit. I will work those out so we can begin. I'll try to get a website up and running soon. I think that SQL problem might be some part of my script.

heck bra ill help beta test just message me on xfire:

skyjocky123

lol I am one of the very few people that hasn't got xfire yet :P. I'm just a little to lazy to get it.

As for the website: The problems are solved. The member list works. I'm gonna work on a forgot password and register form.

PEOPLE WE NEED A NAME DON'T FORGET THAT! I have the idea that noone is really that intrested in all this anymore. I have to admit it's a lot of boring waiting :P. That forum will take a while but maybe we can start whitout one! If so it wont take that much longer for me to have the site ready.

So far I dicided to start whit 2 map projects and a couple of good research projects. I will disign one of the maps myself the other one I leave open for people whit good ideas. I wont say anything about the maps, but xaosw, the map I told you about is the first one :P. Don't tell others. The second map will we something noone has ever done before and will defenetly be really intresting to play. Not telling why yet but everyone will like the concept.


EDIT:
updated the 'first post' to make all this less confusing. It's now a sort of FAQ. If you haven't read it yet do it because it should give you a really good idea of what the team looks like.
Edited by Niels on Sep 15, 2010 at 01:41 PM

well, what kind of name are you looking for? some random cool name that has nothing to do with modding? or like an abbreviated name that means something, like R.O.G.U.E (if it stands for something)

Won't tell anyone.
And i'm not bored or uninterested, i'm just eager to get started