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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:00 AM
Msg. 36 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 Does it matter? I got his point, and if you guys are too stupid to get it because of a little mistake... wow. Notice how I only come on to watch and laugh at what most of you do and say to each other. It's funny watching this community fail.
Whatever you say. View this as you wish. The thing is, being smarter requires an increase in intelligence. As AI already is Artificial Intelligence, you can't technically make it smarter, but you can change it's movement and attack patterns. Of course, you're probably going to view this post as "flames" or whatever you're accusing us of. I do agree with your post. You did understand the intent of our posts, but you still get all riled up because of us wishing to increase knowledge. Oh well. If that's the way the world is now...
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:07 AM
Msg. 37 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 Does it matter? I got his point, and if you guys are too stupid to get it because of a little mistake... wow. Notice how I only come on to watch and laugh at what most of you do and say to each other. It's funny watching this community fail.
Whatever you say. View this as you wish. The thing is, being smarter requires an increase in intelligence. As AI already is Artificial Intelligence, you can't technically make it smarter, but you can change it's movement and attack patterns. Of course, you're probably going to view this post as "flames" or whatever you're accusing us of. I do agree with your post. You did understand the intent of our posts, but you still get all riled up because of us wishing to increase knowledge. Oh well. If that's the way the world is now... You? No, not you, your posts normally have intelligence put into them... I am talking about... other people. I left this part out, it is not that this community has no intelligence, it's just it shows very little to none with social skills depending on who you watch. I was expecting to be flamed, but so far... no one has really said anything. As for the AI argument, I agree, AI only has as much intelligence as you program into it, and in Halo, the AI is not very smart.
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:23 AM
Msg. 38 of 70
Keep it Civil guys...Guarding and Guard Position does greatly improve the performance of the AI, but tweaking settings such as those in the Actor tag do fine tune their actions and performance. You can really screw the variants up though if you aren't very careful. Edited by Mysterion on Jan 2, 2010 at 12:23 AM
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CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:32 AM
Msg. 39 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 Does it matter? I got his point, and if you guys are too stupid to get it because of a little mistake... wow. Notice how I only come on to watch and laugh at what most of you do and say to each other. It's funny watching this community fail.
Whatever you say. View this as you wish. The thing is, being smarter requires an increase in intelligence. As AI already is Artificial Intelligence, you can't technically make it smarter, but you can change it's movement and attack patterns. Of course, you're probably going to view this post as "flames" or whatever you're accusing us of. I do agree with your post. You did understand the intent of our posts, but you still get all riled up because of us wishing to increase knowledge. Oh well. If that's the way the world is now... And apparently, you have to rile up and make such a big deal out of something minute. Seriously, you know what I meant by that post, but you just couldn't help but change it, could you? It's not like supposedly "fixing it" going to increase my intelligence, and if it does, it would also be minute. I just simply phrased it in the way I did to correspond with the previous posts on making AI seem more intelligent. Edited by CorruptedHalo on Jan 2, 2010 at 12:32 AM
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:33 AM
Msg. 40 of 70
If you're letting the AI throw grenades, be sure that they don't nade spam. Keep a nice time between each grenade. 20 is a nice value to use.
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:50 AM
Msg. 41 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHaloQuote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 Does it matter? I got his point, and if you guys are too stupid to get it because of a little mistake... wow. Notice how I only come on to watch and laugh at what most of you do and say to each other. It's funny watching this community fail.
Whatever you say. View this as you wish. The thing is, being smarter requires an increase in intelligence. As AI already is Artificial Intelligence, you can't technically make it smarter, but you can change it's movement and attack patterns. Of course, you're probably going to view this post as "flames" or whatever you're accusing us of. I do agree with your post. You did understand the intent of our posts, but you still get all riled up because of us wishing to increase knowledge. Oh well. If that's the way the world is now... And apparently, you have to rile up and make such a big deal out of something minute. Seriously, you know what I meant by that post, but you just couldn't help but change it, could you? It's not like supposedly "fixing it" going to increase my intelligence, and if it does, it would also be minute. I just simply phrased it in the way I did to correspond with the previous posts on making AI seem more intelligent. Edited by CorruptedHalo on Jan 2, 2010 at 12:32 AM I have to admit, I am guilty of doing the same thing and for the same reason. Being technical to look smart and/or be an ass even maybe, be cool. I only see one reason for Gamma to do that, and it is the same reason I usually do it. Gamma, no offense, but you did not get my post, being an ass isn't going to make anyone more intelligent. There was a more politely way of saying it. For that reason, this community is a joke to me. It's late, and comedy hour is over. Good night folks. Dennis, I apologize for interrupting the flow of normalcy. Obviously, you are used to it.
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CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:54 AM
Msg. 42 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 Dennis, I apologize for interrupting the flow of normalcy. Oh, trust me. This is normal.
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:59 AM
Msg. 43 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHalo And apparently, you have to rile up and make such a big deal out of something minute. Seriously, you know what I meant by that post, but you just couldn't help but change it, could you? It's not like supposedly "fixing it" going to increase my intelligence, and if it does, it would also be minute. I just simply phrased it in the way I did to correspond with the previous posts on making AI seem more intelligent. And now you retaliate. Oh, how lovely the human mind is. Why didn't you yell at me when I fixed your script for you? Fixing it does increase your knowledge, as it teaches you not to forget to add those parentheses again. In this case, it also teaches you how AI cannot simply just increase their intelligence. Life's a learning experience, and we're all still young.
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 01:14 AM
Msg. 44 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHalo And apparently, you have to rile up and make such a big deal out of something minute. Seriously, you know what I meant by that post, but you just couldn't help but change it, could you? It's not like supposedly "fixing it" going to increase my intelligence, and if it does, it would also be minute. I just simply phrased it in the way I did to correspond with the previous posts on making AI seem more intelligent. And now you retaliate. Oh, how lovely the human mind is. Why didn't you yell at me when I fixed your script for you? Fixing it does increase your knowledge, as it teaches you not to forget to add those parentheses again. In this case, it also teaches you how AI cannot simply just increase their intelligence. Life's a learning experience, and we're all still young. With this, I see the community really is screwed. Gamma, you insulted his intelligence, of course he is going to retaliate, I would too. What does it matter if he was off? His point still came across, you were able to know what he meant. Seriously, what's wrong with this community? Nothing left to do but watch and laugh as it goes down the drain. I have nothing left to say, this community fails and does not even deserve to exist any longer.
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CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 01:22 AM
Msg. 45 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927 Why didn't you yell at me when I fixed your script for you? Fixing it does increase your knowledge, as it teaches you not to forget to add those parentheses again. I didn't necessarily ask you in particular to help me with the script, I just wanted someone to. While I'm happy that you were able to help me, it still doesn't change the fact that you did insult me earlier. And while we're on the subject, you missed something in the script. I already changed it, but I want you to find it now. Edited by CorruptedHalo on Jan 2, 2010 at 01:49 AM
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 11:26 AM
Msg. 46 of 70
I disagree, the community isn't dying, waining a bit maybe. Just the fact that you are here, and arguing about AI settings is a good sign that it's alive and it's heart is still beating strong!
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 11:41 AM
Msg. 47 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHaloQuote: --- Original message by: Gamma927 Why didn't you yell at me when I fixed your script for you? Fixing it does increase your knowledge, as it teaches you not to forget to add those parentheses again. I didn't necessarily ask you in particular to help me with the script, I just wanted someone to. While I'm happy that you were able to help me, it still doesn't change the fact that you did insult me earlier. And while we're on the subject, you missed something in the script. I already changed it, but I want you to find it now. I'm glad you appreciate the help. The thing is, I don't really see where I insulted you. I just fixed your statement for you. In what way did it count as an insult?
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:37 PM
Msg. 48 of 70
PLease sty on the topic of the thread: Coming Soon: Snowtorngrove_AI
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:44 PM
Msg. 49 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHaloQuote: --- Original message by: Gamma927 Why didn't you yell at me when I fixed your script for you? Fixing it does increase your knowledge, as it teaches you not to forget to add those parentheses again. I didn't necessarily ask you in particular to help me with the script, I just wanted someone to. While I'm happy that you were able to help me, it still doesn't change the fact that you did insult me earlier. And while we're on the subject, you missed something in the script. I already changed it, but I want you to find it now. I'm glad you appreciate the help. The thing is, I don't really see where I insulted you. I just fixed your statement for you. In what way did it count as an insult? Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 Does it matter? I got his point, and if you guys are too stupid to get it because of a little mistake... wow. Notice how I only come on to watch and laugh at what most of you do and say to each other. It's funny watching this community fail.
Whatever you say. View this as you wish. The thing is, being smarter requires an increase in intelligence. As AI already is Artificial Intelligence, you can't technically make it smarter, but you can change it's movement and attack patterns. Of course, you're probably going to view this post as "flames" or whatever you're accusing us of. I do agree with your post. You did understand the intent of our posts, but you still get all riled up because of us wishing to increase knowledge. Oh well. If that's the way the world is now... Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHalo A way to make AI appear more intelligent than cyborgs crouching in one place firing at people inside their combat range, and ignore those outside it's effective combat range, is to use guarding at guard position and to not just put firing positions everywhere; instead, put them in strategic locations at least a few feet from each other. FTFY Just showing you. Mistakes happen, on purpose or not. As for the topic, what weapons are going to be available in the map?
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:48 PM
Msg. 50 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927 but you still get all riled up because of us wishing to increase knowledge. Oh well. If that's the way the world is now... Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHalo A way to make AI appear more intelligent than cyborgs crouching in one place firing at people inside their combat range, and ignore those outside it's effective combat range, is to use guarding at guard position and to not just put firing positions everywhere; instead, put them in strategic locations at least a few feet from each other. FTFY Neither of my statements were directed towards a certain person. If you viewed the first statement as an insult, then both you and CorruptedHalo are both guilty of insulting as well. The second statement was merely directed to changing "smarter" to a variant of "the illusion of greater intelligence". As from what I could see in the pictures, I've seen the FAMAS alongside classic Halo 1 weapons.
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 12:57 PM
Msg. 51 of 70
Doesn't matter now, but I'm guilty as charged. I don't see how CorruptedHalo is... Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927 If that's the way the world is now... I hope you realize what the world really is now. Intelligence is very hard to find nowadays. On topic edit: What about vehicles, are there any? *checks pictures* Well Mysterion, I can't wait to be able to play this. Not any time soon however... Edited by Dragonmaster91 on Jan 2, 2010 at 01:00 PM
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 01:01 PM
Msg. 52 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHalo And apparently, you have to rile up and make such a big deal out of something minute. Seriously, you know what I meant by that post, but you just couldn't help but change it, could you? It's not like supposedly "fixing it" going to increase my intelligence, and if it does, it would also be minute. I just simply phrased it in the way I did to correspond with the previous posts on making AI seem more intelligent. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Judging from Mysterion's past maps, I'm pretty sure there will be many vehicles implemented well with AI, creating nice vehicle battles.
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 01:05 PM
Msg. 53 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927Quote: --- Original message by: CorruptedHalo And apparently, you have to rile up and make such a big deal out of something minute. Seriously, you know what I meant by that post, but you just couldn't help but change it, could you? It's not like supposedly "fixing it" going to increase my intelligence, and if it does, it would also be minute. I just simply phrased it in the way I did to correspond with the previous posts on making AI seem more intelligent. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Judging from Mysterion's past maps, I'm pretty sure there will be many vehicles implemented well with AI, creating nice vehicle battles. Ah... /discussion Gamma, quit. You're making me excited about this...
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 01:34 PM
Msg. 54 of 70
I'm so sorry.
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 02:58 PM
Msg. 55 of 70
Sorry guys, but not many AI driven vehicles in this mod. The cliff walls and narrow tunnels are just too tight for very precise driving. There are a couple of Fr_Ghosts and Cov turrets being AI driven/operated. I tried having AI drive hogs, but they kept crashing into cliff walls or hitting boulders. They will of course, jump into the hogs with you and fight.
Next map already under development, will be an epic battle theme with more AI operated vehicles...I am going to spend several months on that one until I am completely satisfied with it. I will have the AI exit pelicans either on command or when reaching the landing zones, and then charge into battle under intense bombardment. Edited by Mysterion on Jan 2, 2010 at 02:58 PM
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POQBrute
Joined: Jul 3, 2009
Bruteslayer
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 03:18 PM
Msg. 56 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91Doesn't matter now, but I'm guilty as charged. I don't see how CorruptedHalo is... Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927 If that's the way the world is now... I hope you realize what the world really is now. The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 04:22 PM
Msg. 57 of 70
So.... RELEASE DATE?!
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 2, 2010 05:18 PM
Msg. 58 of 70
Within the next couple of weeks, preferably sooner than later...I want to get back to working on my next map.
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Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006
I swear I'm not actually dead
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Posted: Jan 3, 2010 01:25 AM
Msg. 59 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 With this, I see the community really is screwed. Gamma, you insulted his intelligence, of course he is going to retaliate, I would too. What does it matter if he was off? His point still came across, you were able to know what he meant. Seriously, what's wrong with this community? Nothing left to do but watch and laugh as it goes down the drain. I have nothing left to say, this community fails and does not even deserve to exist any longer. well i do hope you close your account and move on then. gamma is a good poster and he knows what hes talking about. youre sitting here on your proverbial high horse like youre the pinnacle of maturity when in reality all youre doing is acting like an arrogant ass. gamma is helping people learn. how can you possibly look at that and see a "screwed" community? did it ever once occur to you that condescending posts like the last few you have left in this thread are ruining the community more than well informed posts aimed at helping people learn? a community is made up of members. for a community to fail, the members themselves must fail. you sir are doing your part in making this happen. good day.
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 3, 2010 04:43 PM
Msg. 60 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: DonutQuote: --- Original message by: Dragonmaster91 With this, I see the community really is screwed. Gamma, you insulted his intelligence, of course he is going to retaliate, I would too. What does it matter if he was off? His point still came across, you were able to know what he meant. Seriously, what's wrong with this community? Nothing left to do but watch and laugh as it goes down the drain. I have nothing left to say, this community fails and does not even deserve to exist any longer. well i do hope you close your account and move on then. gamma is a good poster and he knows what hes talking about. youre sitting here on your proverbial high horse like youre the pinnacle of maturity when in reality all youre doing is acting like an arrogant ass. gamma is helping people learn. how can you possibly look at that and see a "screwed" community? did it ever once occur to you that condescending posts like the last few you have left in this thread are ruining the community more than well informed posts aimed at helping people learn? a community is made up of members. for a community to fail, the members themselves must fail. you sir are doing your part in making this happen. good day. Alright Donut, I will stop. I only posted because what it was a little... rude what was said, and I went... a bit too far on that post. I did say, in the post above that, that he does usually post with intelligence, and I have noticed so do you. You do have to admit though, this community is a little bit screwed up, after all.. someone tries to make something and some people here have no problem ripping on him. I'm sorry for the fact that I did go too far, now let's get back on topic. Edited by Dragonmaster91 on Jan 3, 2010 at 04:44 PM
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Eden
Joined: Jan 12, 2009
I am your sword.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2010 06:42 PM
Msg. 61 of 70
Your not the first to say this community is screwed up, and you won't certainly be the last.
Mysterion, I have played quite a lot of your AI maps-they are probably some of the best out there-and I would like to thank you for your contribution. MP maps are fun but sometimes there's no one to play them with, so It's nice to have a alternative.
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Dragonmaster91
Joined: Jul 26, 2008
"Q, what nonsense is this?!"
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Posted: Jan 3, 2010 06:44 PM
Msg. 62 of 70
Mysterion, are you going to add any secret weapons and other stuff?
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sargejohnson
Joined: Apr 20, 2009
Shall we play a game?
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Posted: Jan 4, 2010 04:19 AM
Msg. 63 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: Eden Your not the first to say this community is screwed up, and you won't certainly be the last.
Mysterion, I have played quite a lot of your AI maps-they are probably some of the best out there-and I would like to thank you for your contribution. MP maps are fun but sometimes there's no one to play them with, so It's nice to have a alternative. i have to agree with that. His AI maps were designed with gameplay in mind, and his AI encounters are some of the most well-planned i have seen (with the exception of Gamma and certain other senior members of this forum). and about the AI-driven vehicles crashing into cliff walss and stuff, yeah i do understand that. The Halo AI aren't exactly very clever, and since they require more space to maneuver that is what happens....well most of the time. anyway, hoping to see another great map from you soon :)
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Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
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Posted: Jan 4, 2010 07:28 AM
Msg. 64 of 70
Quote: --- Original message by: L0d3x If you use command lists on vehicles and carefully plan the routes they take, they shouldn't crash. Unless of course, they get deviated from their path by say an explosion or collision with a player vehicle. Or a rock in the way.
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POQBrute
Joined: Jul 3, 2009
Bruteslayer
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Posted: Jan 4, 2010 12:43 PM
Msg. 65 of 70
^^
haha wow, random add on lol
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 4, 2010 08:39 PM
Msg. 66 of 70
Gamma: When are you going to ever release any of your AI mods? After viewing some of the your past postings with video links showing your work, they look absolutely incredible. Edited by Mysterion on Jan 4, 2010 at 08:41 PM
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Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
Steam: gamma927
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Posted: Jan 4, 2010 09:07 PM
Msg. 67 of 70
I'm not really up for releasing old test maps ._.
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 4, 2010 09:20 PM
Msg. 68 of 70
Take your AI and put them on a real map then...
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 5, 2010 05:18 PM
Msg. 69 of 70
Gamma: Release the map you had a video for showing that battle for the bridge...
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Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008
Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!
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Posted: Jan 25, 2010 12:13 AM
Msg. 70 of 70
Uploading to Halomaps tonight...Map is uploaded, just awaiting Dennis to post it. Edited by Mysterion on Jan 27, 2010 at 11:03 PM
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