Make the weapons operable only by the copilot.

How does it sound?

Is the copilot seat still unavailable unless there's a pilot?

Gamma's right; you can't get into the gunner seat unless there's a pilot already in the pelican.

Make the gun turret more powerful and remove the rocket pods, making it more of a transport vehicle and less a kill-everything-with-rapid-fire-unlimited-rockets-machine.
Edited by CrossFade on Nov 15, 2009 at 02:27 PM

That's easily changed by a flag. I'm just curious as to whether he's leaving the flag like that or not.

basically, make the coldsnap pelican slower. that would probably be the most balanced pelican.

I've just been playing Halo CE lately, and decided it would be fun to continue my extinction mod. Nothing huge. Just a different layout, more balanced sides, yadda.

Right now I have the same old pelican, only the pilot has driver control, and only the copilot has gunner control. This makes it more of a team-based and balanced vehicle, and not a one-man unstoppable killing machine.

Does it make a difference whether or not you can get in whenever there's no pilot? I mean, it isn't like you'll be able to shoot anything. :D

I mean, you COULD, but without a driver, the tactical advantage is low.
Edited by Officer egg on Nov 15, 2009 at 04:01 PM

Isn't that what Halo's about?

*explodes*

I take your explosion as a yes.

Well, at least in campaign your enemies can unflict some damage to you. In a vehicle thatcan take over five nukes, now...

:D
Edited by Officer egg on Nov 15, 2009 at 06:07 PM

I personally think that the Pelican should have no weapons and be used for transport only. So if it is shot at the drive does not take damage, seeming as it isnt a threat until people get out it should be fine.

Actually, you CAN get into the copilot seat without there being a pilot.

You can crush people by ramming them ._.

Maybe give the peli a tail gun for a gunner at the back, so if someone tries to shoot it from the back it wouldn't be virtually defenseless.
Also, remove the rocket pods or at least limit the ammo and damage of each rocket. No one likes getting screwed over and over again by a peli with infinite high-damage rockets.
Ammo limiting and reducing damage would make the gunner think twice before opening up with the rockets.

I like the idea of cutting the rocket ammunition size.

Also, anyone up for helping me test the gameplay? I need at least 7 other people. Still haven't decided when, though. I'm trying to keep the fun, extinction feel while introducing a level of balance. It can be hard to avoid simply giving out a stripped-down extinction...

What of the hugeass jets? They don't fire the lag missiles, and they present a fast, yet targetable, and therefore more balanced, target.
Edited by Officer egg on Nov 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM

have you ever crashed the coldsnap pelican?
it stays on the ground and drives you in circles

then you obviously don't know how to drive it.
although, with the coldsnap pelican it tends to do that, so give it hugeass pelican physics

Then add damage so when you touch the ground during flight you take damage like in halo 2 and 3.

I'll help.

Keep the missles but make it so that either:
1) They can't home in on small targets (bipeds, warthogs etc.)
2) Reduce the angle at which the can turn so they're only effective at long ranges against Large Vehicles.

Make it so that they explode if they run into a wall, then people will fly them a little more carefully.

Change the primary weapon to something week and easey to target with (Chaingun, GAUS Cannon)

i find the speed of the pelis okay, and don't the pelis in Halo 2 and 3 have rocket pods?
anyway, limit the no. of rockets that can be fired to the no. of rockets visible on the pods, and reduce their damage. Also, make them operable only with a copilot, and make them unable to home onto bipeds (partially so that spawn killing with rockets is less likely).

Give the pelican a decent speed but heavy armor. Cut the copilot seat entireley, and add a powerful chaingun turret in the back. Bam. Win-pelican.

Also. Give it the ability to pick up warthogs, scorpions, or even Covenant vehicles. This would make it valuable even though it only has a single chain gun.

Don't make it turn like the Coldsnap pelican though, that thing sucks.

I like the Pelican as it is (for the most part) and changing it too much would undoubtedly make it boring.

Eh, I like the co-pilot. I'm still thinking, though.

That would be difficult, as you can only script that in a certain location.

yeah, the handling is bleh.

I know you can only script the vehicle pickup thing in certain places. Give each base a single landing pad.

What would be awesome is if phantoms were able to pick up vehicles...

Which would be easy to implement.
Edited by Officer egg on Nov 22, 2009 at 01:16 PM

basically what i was saying. use the coldsnap pelican, change the physics to hugeass pelican, and speeds to normal pelican.

Co Pilot Lags, right?

Only because in the vehicle tag, the co-pilot also has the 'driver' seat flagged.

Y'all forgot that just weakening the weapons will only slow it down, as the extinction pelican takes almost no damage. Basically, your shots do ALMOST no damage while the pilot just follows you and shoots you the moment he or she is done reloading....

it is in the materials.
check them out and fix them as you wish.
and when you said "done reloading" do you mean done reloading the rockets?
if so, then i had already mentioned the solution in my previous post(s).

There you go. Find a Human landing pad for the Human side, and use the platform at the bottom of the gravity lift in Truth and Reconciliation as a Covenant landing pad, and have one at each base.