He didn't bump it. A spammer originally did.

My wife is a paralegal for an attorney. Yes it is agianst the law to sell to someone under 17.
Edited by xsnoder on Nov 15, 2009 at 06:20 AM
Edited by xsnoder on Nov 15, 2009 at 06:22 AM

But not to play. had taht issue when I was getting a perfect example of an M game: CoD WaW. Haad to come back the next day with a parent. So what Im 16 and I could well pass as an 18.

It is legal, at least where I live, to purchase an M-rated game if you are under the age of 17, as long as your legal parent/guardian is present and agrees to the purchase.

Halo is rated M for "blood and gore" and "violence.

Obviously the "violence" part would be the whole thing about shooting aliens.

The "blood" part is the blood decals.

And the "gore" part would most likely be the chunks of flesh flying off of the bodies of the flood after you shoot them. Not to mention the Carrier forms exploding and spraying blood and body parts everywhere.

Nowhere on the box, at least not on the first game, does it mention Halo to be rated M for any kind of language.

I hate it when 9 year olds talk about "Halo modding" When all they use is forge

Six year olds can be MLG.

Look up 'Lil Poison. I believe he's the youngest MLG player to date.

At six years of age, a person is officially considered to be in early childhood, and no longer a baby.

Oh yeah that kid. I heard about him in Inside Halo a year or 2 back. It be fairly intresting to scrim him.

If you read what I quoted , you'd know that someone else bumped it , and got his account deleted.

You aren't supposed to quote spam ._.

aww
any way i hate losers who say what we can and cannot do!
exept police i dont mind them
im 14 and i can play any AO game i want! i love america!

i bought call of duty modern warfare 2 at midnight the day it came out. i can honestly say that it is rated M for a reason. dont just flat out ignore ratings because sometimes they are there for a reason. alot of disturbing things in that game
dont get me wrong, its an amazing game, its just something to think about

By disturbing , do you mean the level : 'No Russian' , where you mow down hundreds of innocent civilians with a group of terrorists , and kill the wounded while they're trying to crawl away , and the people who try to aid them get killed? Plus the foul language? And the fact that you view a torture scene? And that you pull a knife out of your chest , and throw it into someone's eye and watch the blood?
Almost as bad as GTA.

thanks for the image implant cocaine!

You obviously haven't played GTA.

Exactly. The rating system is not perfect and may not apply equally to all people but there are very good reasons why games are rated the way they are.

As a society we are still trying to find the balance when it comes to video games. You may not realize it but your generation is the first to actually be exposed to them at a birth. When I was your age there was no first person shooter games, hell there weren’t any video games at all. I was an adult in my 30’s my when the first PC was made available and video games were still asteroids and pong. It wasn’t until 1993 that the level of graphic violence seen in the games today was first imagined in the PC game Doom and even then the only people who could afford to play it were adults who could afford a $2,000.00 IBM PC. PC’s were not in every home nor owned by people in junior high school, high school much less any one in grade school. Only a few could afford them.

We still haven’t assessed what effects graphic images like those in some games can have on young people. Until now it was adults or maybe young adults (17-22) who were first playing them but now they can be seen from infancy on the home PC. I don’t have the answer but I have to believe that there are some things that young people should not see and that the parents should decide what they are. Since parenting is not a science but an art I am all for the rating system to help people decide what their children should or should not see.

The ratings ARE there for a very good reason. Whether you know it or not you guys are the test cases, the guinea pigs, for the future generations.

in conclusion:

maturity =/= age

and no rating system will ever be perfect unless the rating system can actually read a person's mind for that matter.


yes i know that this is what i said a page earlier, but this basically sums up the thread.

i didnt have any of that in mind when posting, but yes i suppose that would be part of it.
i was actually referring to seeing DC totally destroyed. like when you saw the nuclear bomb go off in cod 4, it was in the middle east. i doubt many (if any) of you have ever been in that area or lived there for any period of time. MW2 took it to the home front and gave us an idea of how destructive war really is. the part where it really hit me was when youre in the chopper gunning people off of the world war 2 monument. iv actually been there more than once. it hits you close to home in a kind of way that i dont think children should be exposed to, assuming they even understand it

didnt we already solve this disscusion like on page 1?

Dennis do you remember the big rp D&D (dungens and dragons) this was also one of the first games in the early 80's that started an awarness around games that were violent. People and law makers alike were trying to link D&D back then to a bunch of nation wide suicides but that never took. Of course it was just a board game ,if even that, and truley fun as hell to play. The early 80's to the early 90's were the awarness years for video games and the begining of a completley different era. Growing up in the 70's and 80's we did'ent see any vids until the good ol colekovision and atari. Gotta love pong man and donky kong, pit fall, pac man, missle command so on. These were the games that started it all and Doom was a ground breaker in violent graphic video games.
another thing we did not have computers as children nor game consoles nor internet so we were not exposed to the world as it is at your finger tips today. The art of keeping your kids outa trouble has changed dramaticly lol

The one with Unicron?

Yes I do. I am not one who believes that any game or violent image or music will CAUSE suicide, teen violence, addiction or unsocial behavior; however, I do believe it cannot be beneficial for young people to casually view graphically depicted violence without supervision or an adult there to help them put it in context. Young people generally do not yet have the experience to place these types of images into the proper context to process them safely.

I am sure you know what I mean, but for those who are “young” I know it is difficult to really understand what I am saying. I am not saying these images are necessarily bad for you but if you don’t frame them properly they can hurt you. I will try to use an analogy from my own experience to explain:

When I was in my mid-twenties I volunteered for the town’s all volunteer ambulance service. Most of my duties were confined to the office because I was technical; I kept the fax machines, radio and telephones working. One day coming home from my day job I came across an accident and ran to help. It was between a motorcycle and a pickup and it was…gruesome. It has been over 25 years now and I still wish I could un-see that image. Even though I worked part time for the ambulance service I was ill prepared to deal with that sight. I floundered and it took the supervision of the arriving EMT’s to get me into the right mindset to properly deal with the experience and actually lend some help. They helped me put that experience into context guiding me to do this or that and in doing so helped me deal with other, much less gruesome, incidents in the future. Without them I would never had been able to cope. Now this was much more than seeing a video game image but the same concept still holds true. Any startling or shocking imagery needs context either in your own life experience or in someone else’s to not be traumatizing, no matter how small, in some way.
I could go on for hours about the potential evils of the “social networking” revolution. As much good as it has brought there are some very serious downsides and the problem is that we are still finding them out and the major users of those services have no thought whatsoever about the potential consequences of posting all their exploits on-line. When you and I were kids and did something… shall I say… untoward or undignified the only people who knew were those involved. NOW, people post it on-line, on Youtube, facebook, twitter and the whole world knows and it is now part of the permanent record. This stuff never goes away. I have a friend who is a HR specialist for a large company and she rejects young applicants all the time because she searches Facebook, Myspace, youtube and other “social networking” sites for the applicant to see what the have posted and more often than not finds something that would reflect poorly on the company. Now the stuff she finds is probably no less than what other employees do but for them is is known only to a limited few people not the entire world.

But I digress….

it's what the government think we can comprehend, if we couldn't comprehend what "blood" "suicide" or "drugs." I can comprehend it because I watch discovery and history channel. If we cannot comprehend things until we're 18 then why show the news, star wars, transformers, billy and mandy, or ANY movie where people die. transformers 2 was forced to be rated pg13 cuz they showed devastar's balls, and that's about it. all the tony hawks skating games have blood, and I've played them since like, age 6.

after reading this thread I came up with short slogan for my paragraph.


THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT COMPREHEND WHAT WE CAN.
Edited by bobbo on Nov 17, 2009 at 08:43 PM

? um eww. thanks for the image implant, im gonna go jump out a window now.

The first video game I ever played was doom when I was about 7 or 8 on my dad's computer, and that was back in 2002 I think. I just got used to seeing the gore and blood, I was too busy killing Demons to notice most of it. When I started to play other games, I didn't notice the gore, I was too busy being impressed by the graphics. So I guess it really is just about maturity level, I mean, it didn't make me abduct, torture, and kill 18 people. Those are just rumors...yeah.... :)

LoL late post XD

Oh yeah, about real gore, My dad's friend works in a morgue and He showed me how to pump a person stomach to find out what they ate, It wasn't very nasty, but it wasn't like on CSI, cause television isn't smellivision.
Edited by jimmy on Nov 19, 2009 at 05:14 PM

Ill be 17 in two months anyway. Lulz too late for me :P

The Flood is also the only true contributing reason for that too.

Johnson drops the F-bomb in the level 343 I believe.