if? you might just leave it like that?

at the cutscene after bursting through the hole, i didn't understand it at all. Are we supposed to jump down the hole like he did? Well I tried and I died. Yipee

well now i'm stuck at this part now

Grenade throwing too slow

Ghost Aiming

The problem with the mini-campaign is the triggers , lack of clarity of where to go , and the BSP.
Other than that , it should be fine.
Oh , and get rid of those jackal snipers, or lower their ROF.

there are jackal snipers? O_O

The only enemies I see were the 3 groups at the start of the level, then those elites on turrets under/near the mega-turret, den nth else :C

same here, it also came as a surprise to me that there were hunters

Thank you. You're correct. The BSP was tricky to lay down Trigs and when I thought I put down some for more spawning, well, that F-ed up.

The ending was that cutscene. I meant to end it there and for those with a30 it would have. Sorry for the annoyance guys. But i tried some other script and it didn't work so I just placed map_name at the end. And no, just placing (game_won) doesn't work.

I don't know the ghost aiming deal, but it might be the fact I'm using a marine instead of the actual ghost itself.

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1949 -please, use this BSP.

It realy annoys me to see that you are using a crappy beta version of a good map, please use this insead. As for the map, The overall idea was good, bu wasn't executed very well. I seemed to just start in an alleyway, an intro cutscene would have been nice, like just a scene of the pod falling from the sky would have been good. Props to acualy having the proper suppressed m7 reticule and having the ammo coun of 45, although it could have been better if it was yellow, and the socom pistol needs some touch ups like having he two yellow lights on the back of the sidearm green instead of yellow, aswell as making the red box not as bright-it should be darker, it would have also been nice to give it a realy quick texture-it would have been better than nothing. The socom AND the smg need new firing sounds and the socom is using the old halo 1 pistol sounds. Things to note: you walked way too slow, the speed in odst is about the same as the chiefs in halo 1. The hud made me cry, please use a different placeholder, need to fix the triggers! Change the BSP. Do not release public betas or demos, it usualy ruins the experience for the final release, keep them private.
Now, back to the actual map, I found that to actauly trigger the enemies in the middle, I had to go the long way around-please fix this, aswell as the jackal snipers nott notocing me. maybe use the chiefs animations instead of the marines? The ghost run seemed rather simple and boring, it felt as if I was randomnly driving arounf the city.

I thought it was ok......I guess, could have been ALOT better, hope you pick this back up.
Edited by Hawkeye 117 on Sep 28, 2009 at 10:18 PM

^I have plans for that BSP.

1.) Thanks for the nice criticism.

2.) I planned on doing that but was pressured with time and I still would have needed an ODST pod for entry (vehicle not scenery).

3.) The Pistol is covered now, but the SMG still needs better (accurate) silenced sounds.

4.) The HUD was there to get the point across. Didn't have a good HUD other than that. The motion sensor wouldn't go away neither (I tried to remove it), but that'll be covered when the HUDs are released in the future.

5.) I wanted to use Chief animations, sheerly because of convenience and better grenade throwing.

6.) The Trigs didn't work out right I thinl due to a crash I had once (when I fixed up a few) and I thought they must have been still fixed.

7.) The speed I thought was accurate, but I guess it was because of the fact that I made them slower than the H1 chief. If anyone can clarify how fast H1 chief is compared to ODST for sure, that'd be good.

There was jackal snipers on one of the rooftops, and the hunters and a few more groups were in the area with the terrible grass texture, there was also a trigger to spawn elites in ghosts for the bit when you get the ghost aswell as a flood of enemies at the huge AA gun. BTW I found another irratating problem-when you are getting hit the marine placing wounded animaions disabling your ability to fire, I thought it was my moiuse messing up.

Well , good luck , and hopefully , this time , there wont be any errors.

since you can't seem to show how or where to go on that map,maybe you should make it an exploration like the level city streets on odst.

Omfg,where are the hunters!?!and the large group of covenant while ur in the ghost?I've played the map and searched all over but I can't find them!GOD!!!
Edited by Delicon20 on Sep 29, 2009 at 05:56 PM

i was bored at that moment.

I never calmed up...

and that was a serious question,cuz I want to fight them so if someone could tell I'd be happy.

You guys are too serious on this forum.
Loosen up.

Then treat this as a public beta of sorts.

uh, you mean that the previous 4+ pages of discussion and work is a minor accomplishment?
i don't really think so.

anyway, just treat this as a public beta, and a big, polished and well tested release typically takes a long time, so this doesn't just satisfy the people who want to play the map, it also allows people to point out flaws that can be corrected early in the process.

of course, you do have a point there: don't keep releasing for every small thing done in the map (like anew model for one weapon, a new vehicle etc).

I think ODST's might actually move faster because they carry less equipment. Play some ODST, you'll see what I mean.

Dude, the spartans are way faster. Some of them (according to one of the novels) could attain over 50 KPH (in suit), which is a tad faster than a normal human being.

I thought that other from the ugly plasma grenade, the grenade throwing, and the fact that you had to complete all the cinema triggers for the enemies to spawn, it was okay. And, the SMG had too much spread for short range. Seriously, it was like using a shotgun with more spread.
Edited by Mogan on Oct 1, 2009 at 04:29 PM

the SMG is meant to have spread.

KPH? as in kilometers per hour (km/h)? 50 km/h is rougly 30 miles per hour. people dont run 30 miles per hour

Spartans using steroids inside augmented armor do. That was stated in Halo: Fall of Reach, I believe.

unless he was being clever, normal humans dont run 30 mph

They ran faster but they most certainty didn't run that fast.

No, when wearing the suit, they do. It was stated specifically in the novel. Kelly's the fastest, and she can run up to 62 KPH (38.502 MPH), with a suit.

I wish I was a spartan :P

All I know is that it felt faster in ODST. It might not have been, but it felt faster.

Closer action?

Its just your smaller.

you would want to be kid napped at the age of 6 forced into the military experience extreme physical and mental pain and go through a required surgery that cripples some if there unlucky?
cool :B

II think he just meant jsut being able to feel the rush in battle as a spartan.

ANYWAY

Did you look that up or did you just remember it?:P I read the book last month and couldn't remember how fast it exactly was.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Kelly-087



Who needs knowledge, when you have the internet.

A mile is 1.6 kilometers , so 50 kilometers works out to 31.25 Miles per hour.
The reason why they run like that is because they're all Usain Bolts.
Edited by Cocaine on Oct 2, 2009 at 04:57 AM

inorite?!