Didn't they announce that a year ago? I highly doubt pb3 will ever come out.

Microsoft's Content Usage Rules state that ZTeam should NOT be ripping from Halo 3.

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/community/developer/rules.htm

"You can’t reverse engineer our games to access the assets or otherwise do things that the games don’t normally permit in order to create your Items."
Edited by Marka Haiyana on Jun 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM

I don't think Zteam really cares. They will rip even if it gets them in some law trouble.

ftfy

ya, them too, or maybe just them. Maybe Zteam does care, but still they won't release the H3 stuff anytime too.

Still, the fact that they reverse-engineered it is against the rules of content usage.

Eh, guess it's between them and Microsoft.
Edited by Marka Haiyana on Jun 15, 2009 at 01:28 AM

So much stupidity and ignorance in this thread.

Whoa, where's that coming from?
Edited by Marka Haiyana on Jun 15, 2009 at 02:04 AM

Many of the posts I've read in here aren't very nice towards Zteam.

You get what you paid for.

BTW Mookz, send me your xfire pl0x

E: Alright, I'll be more specific.

I've seen multiple posts in this thread complaining about Zteam not releasing anything; well, did you ever stop to think why?

Have they said the tags were done 100%?

Have they shown gameplay trailers?

All I've seen so far, are a few videos of models/textures/animations/etc that are being worked on CONSTANTLY. I'm not even sure if they've managed to rip the maps yet. I'll ask CAD, CV, or Shadow about it later.

Where do you all come across telling them they're selfish for keeping the unfinished tags until they're finished? Have you done anything truly special for the community?

Everything Zteam has released has benefit the community greatly, maps and software included.

The most that half of the people in here have done is made a tag or two, or maybe even some crappy box map.

I'm not saying I've done anything special either. I do what I do, and I'm happy with that. I'm just saying that you all seem to think that Zteam(and CMT) care about whether you think they're taking too long to release. Unlike most of you, they won't be pressured to release anything because they want something good, and they want it finished.

oh, and mookz isn't included in this rant. he's a cool dude.
Edited by ChocolateNugget on Jun 15, 2009 at 02:11 AM

ya, i know i said they weren't releasing anything. And you do have a point, I'm just jealous of what they have done. I mean the FP body/legs looked stunning. No hate was meant toward Zteam at all.

You shouldn't be complaining at all. People seem to forget it's a video game and not have Zteams tags isn't going to kill you. Your noobish maps will remain the same with or without them. How many H3_Bloodgulches do we really need?

You got that right.
/Sarcasm

ok then have fun with custom [sarcasm]

There halo 2 recreations where amazing so i would really want to play their halo 3 ones even if they are ripped. They just havnt released in a long time. And yah alot of there work is posted on youtube but it just gets old. i rather have a forum on halomaps or modacity (without the stupidity and ignorance i have seen there) and be able to actively communicate with the team members. THATS what i really want other then just youtube videos. Idk it just so commonly used to show work now and i LIKE TO TALK TO THE MEMBERS LIKE A HUMAN PERSON! And be able to get real information that explains it all and thats in the words they write and speak.



With the look and the amount of content put into there work i would have assumed they were done a year ago at minimum. Am not talking about all that UBER-SEXY HALO 3 pb3 everyone keeps rambling about am talking about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViZbCKyGla8&feature=channel_page

i would have really imagined THAT was done by now.
(Also am not ranting or raving that they should release there content am just REALLY REALLY wondering if they are seriously going to be that much of an impact on the ce community that they just want to release one (or a group) of maps at one time and utterly blow are minds from the inside out. And also if it was necessary after they decided to leave halo 2 for halo 3 content in ce to not ,perhaps, release the halo 2 maps they were working on like containment and relic.

I am me and i <3 nugget so i deserve a BIG COOKIE!!!
Edited by The Barron on Jun 15, 2009 at 09:44 AM

Yeah, I've been workin my ass off trying to finish the pit in addition to ya know, a full time job, college, life. So has the rest of zteam. most of the stuff they've been working on has been for the pit, things people thought not possible. not to keep halo 3 content to themselves.

ZTeam has released a lot of stuff you can use, it's just most members here aren't advanced enough to use it. For example, CAD's max 9 animation exporter, his FP overlay creator and even his FP moving creator are all great maxscripts that benefited me, but the majority wouldn't be able to use. They also released the Campaign scripts, and without that, SPv2 would be far from what you see today. Just because they don't hand you the tags on a silver platter doesn't mean they haven't helped the community.

alright thanks That right there answers alot of things

Btw: Where can we discuss zteams projects and openly talk with the team and all? I havnt seen them post anywhere (or i havnt been looking hard enough)

You dont.

The Comments page on their youtube vids. And yes they do have awesome stuff, but they are most likely all WIPs

Yeah, ZTeam doesn't really associate with us.

Thats pretty unfortunate. So there really just trying to keep everything under covers except for the youtube videos.

My question is: Will there be a released maps with these extractions, and Is it illegal for them to do so?

I really don't care on whatever happens, but it is nice to know things and it would be awesome to see how far HCE would go with those extractions.

ZTeam really needs to stop being so ragey. Why is it that Halo modding becomes this bitter chore? I mean, there ARE alot of people that want to know wtf's going on with them, but ZTeam could just not respond. Every other ZTeam development youtube video has bitter comments and arguments, full of unnecessary name-calling. I don't see why they don't just avoid drama alltogether.

I keep hearing people asking for release dates, all that sort of stuff. Mods should never have set release dates until they're 100% finalized so there's no date pushbacks. Mods don't get done as fast as actual game development since, let's face it, they're not comprised of a huge load of people. People expect too much out of them, they're just a group of regular guys doing non-profit stuff.

I think both sides need to chill. I'd suggest ZTeam stop showing Youtube videos, or at least turn off comments and ratings.
Edited by Marka Haiyana on Jul 4, 2009 at 06:19 AM

*post deleted by admin for rules violation
READ THE RULES:
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=2979

Quoted Profanity
Edited by Dennis on Jul 5, 2009 at 03:13 PM

may i ask what are those, do they create those animations?
i/m not a big fan of quote ladders

They do what they are named. FP Overlays are the animations that control the gun movements when you move the mouse. It also controls how, when you walk forward, the gun lags behind a little bit.
FP moving is another overlay that shows the gun bobbing up and down when you move. This is "overlayed" onto the rest of the animations, so when you reload while moving, the arms still bob up and down.
They were over on modacity a long time ago. Try searching because I don't have the direct link.

I Thot ZTeam was dead ... and was i wrong

I have respect for Zteam, but some of their members are a little rash sometimes and jump to conclusions too often. One hell of a team though when they get stuff completed.

Well 99% of the people who comment on Zteam's videos on youtube or on any video showing something in CE think because it's on youtube doesn't mean you can have it or that it's released. I can sort of understand why Zteam sometimes acts the way they act. They're being annoyed by 1,000 people because they showed some of their WIPs on youtube. Then they have 1000+ more people going "canz i haz tagz plox?! plzplzpzlzlz" or that one dude spamming CAD video's with the whole "tagz or i haxor u causz if i h4x you i r b l33t w/ tagz and i r b pro mappper", I and maybe some of us and feel their pain.

Yeah I saw that dude lol
zunprotect right?
He was like, "GIMMEH YO TAGZ OR I RELEZZ Z SANCT UNPROTECTED 2 HALOMAPZ!!!!11"

Yep and two other guys too, or it might be the same guy.

I've always wanted ZTeam to put their tags into the original maps. I wouldn't mind playing z_team_dangercanyon.map or z_team_hangemhigh.map once in a while.

How about z_snowbound_h3_pb1? That sounds a lot better to me.

z_thepit_h3_pb1

z_odst_firefight_pb1 lol

They didnt even get a H3 Multiplayer map out yet, why would they make a single player map of a game that isnt even out yet.
/rant