In my previous thread, I was asking if a Gondola, a moveable device that transports the player from place to place, was possible in CE SP. The answer was yes. Now, my question is, can someone make it for me?

Its possible. Proof is the exhaust coupling in The Maw; when you stand on it, as it moves backwards, it carries you backward.

POssible in a single player only. It will not sync in a multiplayer game.

Actually, it should be able to sync. The elevator in RPG Beta 6 synced well enough.

^ That's only because the elevator in PRG Beta 6 looks like it syncs with a script I made. Dennis just means it wouldn't sync by itself, which is true.

Syncing a Gondola might be a lot harder than syncing an elevator, but the same concept of using hogs and bipeds can be used to do it. It would just be a lot more noticeable when a player joins in the middle of the Gondola moving. They would see the players supposedly in the Gondola falling and warping back up to a point in the middle of the Gondola's path.

maby you can have so it wont allow player to spawn while the gondolla is enroute

all in all, it's only a sideway elevator. The problem is that instead of beeing a 5 seconds delay between Low and High position it may be 40 seconds which means it could only be re synced after that delay for joining players. That new thing you tryed with 4 hogs, could it help?

I don't need it to sync; its for SP.

Edited by Gamma927 on Apr 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM

It's not about when players spawn, it's about when they join the game.



Yeah, it would help slightly. The extra hogs are there for trying to help out with that same delay you're referring to. They just snap the device's position to the right ending position if the server's elevator has reached one of the ending positions.

So, say a player joins when on the server the gondola is halfway to its "1" position, basically at its "0.5" position. On the client's side, the biped for moving to the "1" position is immediately killed, and so the Gondola starts moving from the "0" position. Without the extra hogs, the client would have to wait until its Gondola reaches "1" before the Gondola is synced with the server again.

But, with the extra sync bipeds, when the server's Gondola reaches the "1" position, another biped is killed. On the client side, the Gondola would only be at its "0.5" position when this happens, and noticing that the biped is killed, the client then repositions its Gondola at "1" immediately, syncing the Gondola twice as quickly than the older method. This is what I did with the elevator in RPG Beta 6.

So yes, it would help, but there would still be a period where the Gondola won't be synced. In theory, I could pile on an infinite number of hog-biped pairs for as many positions of the device as I wanted to, and it would help out with this issue a LOT since there would be many positions where the server updates the position to the clients, which would greatly reduce the problem with players joining while the device is moving. E.g., a hog for the "0.1" position, a hog for the "0.2" position, etc. etc. all the way to the "1" and "0" positions. And it wouldn't be that hard to add to the script.

But, it's really impractical to do something like that. I would need 10 hogs in addition to the usual 2. That makes 12 hogs and 12 bipeds. And that's a little crazy. Hell, if I wanted to I could add 100 hog-biped pairs, one for each "0.01" increment in position. Of course, that would probably lead to massive lag and then an exception. That's just retarded.

But, for something like a Gondola that travels a long way, having many points where the server updates the Gondola's position to the clients through the hog-biped pairs might be very helpful.

And so ends another of my walls of text.

^epic

^Thats a lie.

I semi-believe you. In Coldsnap, Tiamat used assault rifles with explosions that kill bipeds just on top of them so that the scripts could determine what game type it was. Same idea could be used for syncing if the weapons are named. Only reason I doubt that is ... why would he sync the position down to 200 segments? Seriously, that means he synced it down to increments of "0.005".
Edited by Me KS on Apr 12, 2009 at 10:23 PM

What about Z coagulation and sanctuary? How there are different vehicle setups if you change the number of vehicles in the gametype.

Scripts? Just changing whats spawning for each gametype?

If you're talking about the coldsnap scripts that check the game type, then yeah. It's for changing which scenery spawns depending on the game type. E.g. in Race, there are platforms that bridge the gap between the two sides of the map that don't spawn in other game types. Things like that.