ok, i released the new map: Zanzibar Halo 3. it contains H3MT's leaked material... some with fixes. i put in CMT's Ma5k and smg, i put Tazz's shotgun, and i put the best materials i had in my disposition. this map is unprotected. i find map protection stupid; you are not bungie, so stop posing as it.
i put the author as MajorHaloFun to avoid your useless flaming, but i am ready to see your attempts now.
this thread/post is basically to inform people of the map. my purpose for releasing this map is to allow for the community to use something decent. sorta like American welfare, this is merely an attempt, to increase the community's opportunities at creating something good.
improving does not necessarily mean for the community to learn how to create this stuff. it can be the community's modification for another person's liking. over half the people do not intend on mastering this area, so do not force them to be what you are; it is most selfish of you.

i understand that my action is not entirely correct, but i hope that some will accept it as what i aimed for "a little evil for a greater good"

i wasn't ready for flaming, but i need to promote the map to (obviously) inform the community of a tool

did you read the first post?

the map is the tool, to improve the community's tag set.

idgi. The old H3MT tags will ruin everybody's tagsets...

giving people pieces of content for specific tagsets doesn't really help.

People protect their maps so other people don't ruin what they made. "HURR HURR MAKE IT DO THIS THIS AND THIS." That's what people try to avoid, they aren't "posing" as bungie as you so eloquently put it. Yes there are some people who have the potential to successfully add on to it, but that's not very likely in this community.

You basically stole and used someone's artwork without consent to make a point that is absolutey stupid and wrong. Congrats.
Edited by ZeroAlphaOmega on Mar 4, 2009 at 08:03 PM

you're exactly why i changed name, but i actually enjoy reading your post. it was too predictable.
there's not ruin in work; only for you pessimist, egoists who see anything unsatisfying to yourself as unworthy. any community is likely to succeed if jerks stop harassing it. im not saying to encourage stupidity; just give them a chance.

how is trying to help "stupid and wrong"?

bungie's? or did you mean labor?



explain how that relates.
Edited by cellista92 on Mar 4, 2009 at 08:17 PM

/ thread. You fail

I rather have a mod than some map with more H1 gameplay.

The fact that you threw together random tags does not make a piece of art. Basically, your map wasn't anything special.

not random tags you ignorant ____
at least gather some insight before you post. (then again your impulsiveness gives me a sense of joy)

the tags are the best i could find; which is shown in the title.

who cares about art?

This is all I have to say about this thread.

Fail.

bu they're still random. The only thing that they have in "relation" is that they're the "best"

The best you could rip.. Seriously all your gonna do is get little noobs to make retarded mods asaying "LEIK OMG I HAZ HALO 3 WEAPONS WHAT NAO???!!11"

this thread's purpose was to inform, so that's going pretty well. and random means "without definite aim" which i believe is contradicted by the fact that i aimed for the best.



i gathered; ripped, downloaded, and merged. and as i implied before... "one man's trash is another man's treasure"
Edited by cellista92 on Mar 4, 2009 at 08:37 PM

Well. It's the worst now. Good job..

I did read the title. You did try to select the best, but the fact remains: there is no order in your choosing. You picked those that were made by the best in the community, and yet you shoved them into a map that was also made by the best in the community. The tags are good, yes, but when you put them together randomly, it doesn't make it anything special. If your intention was to open source the tags, most were already out. I believe that CMT's MA5K and SMG were released to the public, as well as Tazz's shotgun. H3MT's weapons were widely ripped from the leak, though against their will. Therefore, I cannot find your intention in creating this map.

Responses in bold.

Uh zero, this isn't about crit or him wanting props for his map. And no, that's not how Snaf, Dane, Pengin, Wave, and people in CMT got anywhere. Not everyone is modding because they want to be a pro. If the OP made this map on request or to play with his friends or to expirment, well good for them, none of your buisness. For the matter, 90% of CMT hates the modacity community, as does most of zteam. I don't think any of us agree the modacity way is the right way for a community to act.


Basicly, if you took a bunch of weapons that were all red, and you put the in a map, the weapons were still randomly chosen, because they're red.
Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 4, 2009 at 08:40 PM

don't worry... i debated myself taking both perspectives (your view of right and wrong) unbiased, and i concluded that this is more correct. the reason why people shouldn't learn how to create their tags is because this is not everyone's field. stop being so selfish.

No, I'm not concerned as to why you open sourced tags that were mostly already open source. I'm just wondering what the intention of the map was.

Perimeter IS a piece of art. It looks beautiful.

just to put them all together and make them easier to access; to change the goal from obtaining good tags, to improving good tags.



sigh... this is not to persuade them to download. it's to inform them of this "tool"
Edited by cellista92 on Mar 4, 2009 at 08:47 PM

Hypocrisy considering you're abusing the original artists consent.

Ah, so to make it simpler for new people to be able to use the tags without having to worry about where to put stuff?

/thread

just for people to have a tool, disregarding their skill.



a little evil for a greater good?

If someone can't create tags, then that's why you you can get a team, or a partner. You're a fool and idiot. People shouldn't learn because it's not their field? Then what the hell is the point of learning?

if evil is committed for the sake of good then the resulting good is not valid.

that's one of the issues i debated over the most... i used to have that perspective as well. i believe that learning is important. and yes, to be good, one has to learn many fields. but this field hardly relates to anything of importance...
considering this field as important as you imply, is like forcing a mathematician to understand the whole meaning of religion. they just don't cross as much... that's where perfectionists miss their goal.
it's a bit complicated to explain the exact reasons why i decided to take this side, but if you're interested in hearing a point of view (and perhaps learning something new)... just PM me.

wait so you posted to show us a map and inform us that it uses leaked material that users on this forum have openly and clearly stated they dont like, and uploaded it under a different name because you assumed people would flame you, but have now decided to see what unique insults people can come up with.
so basically, flamebait?

oh btw its not selfish of skilled users to try to help other users learn how to do stuff. its actually kind of the opposite.

its to complicated meaning that you don't have a reason, but you thought to be cool to act so desperate to do something to save the community even if it meant hurting others. Because ya know, in the movies that's always so dramatic, it be pretty cool to re-enact something like that on the forum.

Call me crazy, but I see the dramatics of the situation.

edit: this ^

almost good wisdom except for the many exceptions. killing is an evil thing, right? im not asking about circumstances here. killing is generally classified in all societies as a bad thing. now what if somebody kidnaps a loved one and you have to kill them to stop them from killing that loved one?

but yeah this isnt a life or death thing. its a mod of a map for an 8 year old game :V
Edited by Donut on Mar 4, 2009 at 09:12 PM

look at you; analytical, yet abstract at covenience.



you're the type of person that goes around the rules to get your way, tough guy.

a person steals your toys, to give to charity. would you shoot that person?
Edited by cellista92 on Mar 4, 2009 at 09:19 PM