I've been messing with my Relinquished map today (no I haven't dropped the project but only work on it about 30 minutes a month), and I started to redo the tunnels. The old ones where just place holders and where extremely boxy and bland. I haven't added final textures to them so just try to judge the overall model.

Please state your opinion and what can be done to look more "Forunnerish".








I haven't got hardly anything done on the map in the last few months but I'll try to start working on it more and you might can expect a beta within a few months.

There ok, but you could add alot more to it.

It looks human to be honest. The angles sloping downward from the wall need to be bigger OR the wall needs to be taller. That's my opinion though.

Forerunner structures have lots of detail and are full of straight lines. Keep that in mind.

It's actually bigger than it looks, it's probably just because it's in Blender instead of 3dsMax.

Get max or gmax. It would be alot easier to use then that.

I like it, but it looks more human than forerunner. Forerunner = mass of details.



Now, that is pure forerunner.

Add more detail on the walls, and keep things symetrical (that is so not how to spell it)

EDIT

No, I did NOT make that.
Edited by Mythril on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:07 PM

I do, but I just never figured out how to model good in it, so I just import one section at a time when tweaking the BSP. That's another reason why it usaully takes longer to model in my maps. Anyone know how hard it would be to create a Blender exporter if even possible?


Detail.. Dang I'm not good at that.
It might look a little better when I get proper textures applied and mapped.

Anyway, thanks everyone for the feedback.
Edited by The Spartan on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:13 PM

You dont need that much detail... Half of that looks like a bump on the texture.

True. Still, one look and it reeks forerunner.

Actully, after looking and examining it, some parts odnt look forrunner. :| stupid halo wars.

I might even try to make a new shader for it, but my texture making skills are sadly worse than my modelling skills, so yeah...

Also would making some of the floor transparent/glass and something under it help?

Edited by The Spartan on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:18 PM

I see little things that look like model houses...

O_o

Texturing, the default textures are alright, but not exactly for something as large scale as that.

i cannot model forerunner

probabilly cus i dont think that way. i think a different way to forerunner. if i do model forerunner i model from a pic or some sort of refrence.

and the tunnel looks really, like human, anyway, if u want a tip from the person that sucks at forerunner (me) i rekon u need some sort of detail in the walls like where u hav the beams. make some sort of thing like



kinda like. well hard to explain. semetrical defentally. and textur with like blus, silvers, oranges, like ckeck some pics for texturs. anyway this is only what i think

EDIT: well i had a pic in that huge gap but it doesnt really turn out. so its kinda like the top of mythrils pic. like the thing that sticks up, but as beams in ur walls
Edited by KA0S on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:20 PM

No. You need a intresting shape, and know the way of foreruner, and forerunner angles.
Edited by Higuy on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Ask Selentic.

I was going to get the tunnels off of an original Halo map, but considering I use Blender that would be hard.
Edited by The Spartan on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Thats why you need max ^_^

In 3ds max, use a lot of chamfering, because it stops things from looking so "boxy" and sometimes creates more detail.
Edited by KA0S on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM

chamfer messes up my models, I use cut.

Cut is useful, especially for forerunner detail, or you can use slice plane.

i mean like edge chamfer. i hate all other 1s. only chamfer in edge. and onlg chamfer it abit

Blender has some pretty good tools that would make this a whole lot easier, but they sometimes produces degenerate triangles.
Edited by The Spartan on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:31 PM

What do degenerate triangles do? I saw somewhere they mess up texturing, but maybe that was something else...

Yeah, they screw-up textures. They don't really affect the compiling of the model though.

They do me.
Edited by The Spartan on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM

LOL. Degrente triangles will mess up your model. :)

Or rather, they don't mess up weapon models too bad. You don't want degenerate triangles in a BSP though. Those are Fatal. xP

really? i never take any notice of degen triangles and i dont get any problems. unless ur really fussy and u want whateva it is to be fully perfect.

oh and with weapon models nothing really matters when creating collision because u dont creat collision. weapons dong get collisions so thats y i love moddeling them cus u dont have to care what u do. well besids makeing the model look good

Oops.



That's from Dee, randomly found on deviantart.

EDIT: Fixed image link
Edited by Mythril on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Looks kinda wierd.

yea thats quite forerunnerish

Edited by KA0S on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM

whoa.....that's a cool model(?).....
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Oh look. My forerunner hallway model.