I started messing around and trying to texture it, here's what I have so far, fairly new to this.

I'd go easier on the edge weathering.

Better?

Yea, it looked a little too cartoony when the weathering is heavy.

when I took that original picture, I had only used 3DS max and render to texture to make it, for some reason my initial export went crazy with the edges, I think I found a good middle ground now through messing around.

Cross-post from my OpenCarnage thread

I recently started working on a Halo 5/Halo CE magnum hybrid. The goal is to modernize the CE pistol while retaining as much of the classic design as possible. I'm sure by now some of you are intrigued as to what this looks like, so here are pics.



To-Do:

| Complete | | In-Progress | | Not Started |

-Finalize the 3D model for the pistol ~90%

-Fully animate the pistol

-UVW unwrap and texture

-Compile

-Create a gameplay model for the pistol (concept stages)

-Find a source for FX

-Final balancing

-Release

I'll keep you updated.

nice model.

Your funny "UNSC conspiritah" post made me laugh.



I'm going to treat your current img's as blockout WIP's.

> The area between the trigger and the trigger guard is far too small, I doubt even the most petite of U.N.S.C. operatives would be able to operate your magnum.

> Overall size suggests that your design would not be able to support 12.7 x 40mm ammunition, but that's okay because the smallish proportion reminds of a concealed carry on/compact design. Sort of like what the "Baby Deagle" is compared to the fully fledged "Deagle".

> Perhaps think about adding usable iron sights? It'd more or less be a unique feature given that most halo magnums with the exception of the M6D lack a practical setup.

> Adding accessory rails above the slide and below the frame would also be cool feature. Since it would enhance the believability of having a dedicated working set of attachments which could be easily applied and removed. (Smart Scope, Laser/flashlight)

> Suppressor design is okay....reminds me a hell of a lot of the osprey 9. I would personally prefer some sort of integrated sound suppression system similar to M6S of H3-ODST. (It's just my opinion though)



I could assist with this.



I've mentioned this before but I'll go ahead and mention it again for the benefit of other users.

It seems to me like you have the normal map flipped incorrectly on the Y-channel I know this because I can almost exactly replicate the results you have in game:

This is the normal map applied with the correct swizzle coordinates:





(Note that the overall quality maybe a little "pixely". This is due to the fact that I scaled the standard 8K map down to 1k (1024x1024). Normally you would only utilize 2K res or higher for a normal map to correctly mimic the normals of a high poly mesh with little or no artifacting but, since I originally baked my texture space map at such a high resolution I can almost get away with downscaling to such a degree...almost.)

And this is the the same normal map incorrectly applied with the wrong orientation:







The general smoothing tension won't 100% match that of your in game setup primarily because I am not using textures in addition to also having a high specular amount applied to the mesh, but if we focus on the front side of the cheek rest you should be able to discern the triangularish artifacting which more or less matches the same error in your screenshot Sean.

Personally I am unsure if OS Halo natively supports channel flipping but I'm going to hazard a guess and say that it doesn't which is cool because you can still manually flip the colour channels of a normal map in any competent image editing program....like photoshop.

Here is how:

1. Open the map in photoshop:


2. Change your UI scheme to "essentials" to match my setup and click on the "channels" tab:


3. Select the green channel: (this should temporarily hide the other channels)


4. Then hit "CTRL+A" to select the whole canvas, after doing so use the keyboard command "CTRL+I" to invert the image:


5. Once you are done select the "RGB channel" layer to unhide all of the previously hidden layers and save. (Note if you did it correctly various aspects of the texture should now appear indented where as prior they may have seemed extruded)




BTW after reviewing some of the HM57 related files I've realised that for some reason I incorrectly provided you all with the wrong files for the HM57 diopter sight. The ones which were originally uploaded featured the actual rear sight drum incorrectly facing straight up wherein real life it should be orientating 25 degrees downwards at the front and also I forgot to clone out an Allen key nut from the front sight lock back to the rear sight lock.

Here are the patched files: (The original project files link has been updated too)

LP_PDW_Final.max

Lowpoly_Attach_Diopter_Sights.max

LP_Attach_Diopter_Sights.obj


Edited by Super Flanker on Sep 19, 2016 at 07:58 AM

Messing around with Substance & Photoshop.

I don't think I will continue with any of Allegorithmic's products unfortunately, the amount of repetitive software crashing is near intolerable.

Cue MARI.

Looks good, now time to make things on a larger scale

Flankers PDW textured in Quixel Suite.

crappy 3DS max renders:






Quixel Suite viewport:





Textures are PBR.

These are going into Black Ops 3, although I don't see why they can't be plopped into Halo as well with a little work.

WIP Sci-Fi'esque heavy revolver.

















Something I've been working on intermittently between other things.

I won't lie and say I've enjoyed the journey so far though......translating 2D conceptions into 3D is such a pain in the ass, especially when trying to emulate real world revolver dynamics.

Don't read too much into the smoothing. The model is actually a overtly detailed block-out mesh with subdivision's controlled by smoothing group splits, It's super cheap and easy to do to get a peek of whats to come further down the pipeline.

Working on the real high res ATM.

Cal. 12.7mm (identical to .500 S&W)

Daaamn
I like this

I really like how it looks.

Crit anyone? I'm having second thoughts about this particular piece.

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I mean, You don't have to be a gunsmith to know the only heavy "load" you'll be firing will be the one exploding in your face...:(



Have no Idea what I was thinking on chiselling this section of the outer shell of the barrel, should I just bite the bullet (no pun intended) and stop trying to make things interesting and make it just one length piece?



Considering adding a small top rail. The problem is I'm concerned about falling into the trap of adding rails to everything I create.

Normally I'd identify a background to my conceptions and shape a story of it's inception and use that as a base to define certain aesthetic characteristics and features.....problem is I don't really have a background to start off with....I'm just doing this for the fun of it, and currently there isn't any fun to be found!

Considering a setup akin to this:



The top rail would be the shortest however with the bottom under barrel fix point being the largest.

I think the cylinder could use some detail.
As it is in that last reference picture and a lot of other revolvers, they usually have divots.
Other than that I think the modelling work is nice.

The way I see it, the revolver looks like it was meant to move like a break action shotgun, wherein the cylinder doesn't get turned out to the side like a traditional loader, and instead the entire gun folds down after the grip. Maybe something to look into if you want to be unique about it.

Normally you'd be correct, those indentations are pretty much commonplace on every revolving cylinder but I decided to go with the reference and against the usual grain....not sure if it was a good Idea but it isn't bothering me a whole much. 'preciate the input though!




Sort of a like a Derringer? Whilst it is certainly a unique approach I don't think a traditional hinge pin (realistically speaking) would stand up to the pressures of +P+ ammunition. Or perhaps I need to place more faith future/techy/sci-fi gun-smithery???




Sci-Fi Revolver Update














There are a few little details which still need to be added namely the:

Cylinder Ratchet.

Firing pin.

And I also need to consider a speed loader too.



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Make it break action tough

I could......trouble is I don't have enough monitors. :(





Minor HM500 Updates:






Speed loader:(push or twist function depending on animators preference)





Rifling: (A little annoying to nail down, think I got it though)





Uber simple internal mechanisms: (You'll never see this portion of the model anyway...unless VR???)




Finally in accordance with the reference image some additional grippy details for the grip:(Literally shrink wrap above underlying mesh and extrude)




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Lowpoly and unwrap was done awhile ago, and as I write to you now I am already in the process of baking out the maps which means I don't require you this time @Skidrow.





Final warning for the poll of "what thing should I model next"

Vote here:


\/ What you are voting for: \/



Halo Reach AR variant concept.

Futuristic HK AR Platform. (G56)

Elysium Chemrail.


Deadline for the vote ends on the last day of this month @ 11:59pm.





(Dn't inform teh Ruski haxors.)
Edited by Super Flanker on Dec 23, 2016 at 10:54 AM
Edited by Super Flanker on Dec 23, 2016 at 10:55 AM

I got a bump of coal this Christmas.

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Edited by Halonimator on Dec 25, 2016 at 09:57 PM

Wrong thread, buddy.

deleted

wut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6K_Vi4qCtY

16 hours of rendering......later:
















Creditos:

2D artist: Blackdonner

Echo77: Liaison.

Megasean: Tolerating me.

Skidrow: Fist bumps.



Enjoy.

Tris count: 18,000

I tolerate you.

Jeez that was fast.

One thing i've noticed though quixel seems to be overcompensating the amount of dirt/grime/damage applied to the speed loader which in contrast to the revolver looks a little iffy IMO. My guess is this to be due to the curvature information quixel is reading to control the spread of the smart materials edge wearing effects you have assigned, this is common in Substance too.

Ordinarily this would not be a problem if the two meshes in question were assigned seperate material id's to aid with masking or if they used two entirely exclusive UV sheets instead of being bundled into one.

As a concequence if you were to lower the smart materials wear effects to gain a suitable look on the speed loader you would also be taking away information from the revolver aswell

Unless you are masking out one entire mesh to work exclusively on the other and vice versa via UV selections....

Sorry for the trouble. Assigning different MAT Id's to the mesh pieces which you know you wish to work on seperately to thus gain more control of should do the trick.

Btw could you alter the sight diodes to be either green or red? I'd envisioned them to be akin to the Taurus models from COD:Ghosts and Blops 2.




Oh and whats up with that distortion I see within the inner portion of the trigger guard? That's not my fault right?

(Oh and you forgot to fill In one pesky triangle on the hand grip :D)

Awesome work!

Thanks for the critique, I'm willing to look into it, and I actually used quite a few Material ID's.

For the sights, I'll be giving those color in engine.

As for the triangle, thats quixel being dumb and pretending that triangle is a seperate object. It looks fine outside of the program.

EDIT: upon further inspection, the trigger guard does appear to be some kind of model error, I figured I might have goofed on a material ID but it doesn't appear to be that way.





Edited by MEGA_VKNG on Dec 26, 2016 at 08:26 PM

Damn does that look good

Mmhmm it's all my fault. (as per usual)



Didn't pay enough attention to my uv's. Luckily max is flexible enough to allow me not to have to setup my entire projection cages again. I still couldn't escape the 16 hour re-render though. :(

Updated link.

Also straw poll thing is over > The halo themed rifle won, totally didn't expect that this being a halo themed site and all. >:/


Here's a few ideas I'm tossing around, feel free to add on.
(MA5C is there for proportion reference)



Also need a military designation. I'm thinking XM something, something... since this platform type doesn't look like a standardised or approved design.

I like the idea of the removable attachments, I think the trigger area looks fine.

You could probably call it the XMA(insert edgy number and letter in the alphabet here), since the XBR55 (prototype BR) is already a weapon in Halo Canon. Maybe the XMA37 since that's what the model is based on?
Edited by MEGA_VKNG on Jan 1, 2017 at 01:51 PM

Quote: --- Original message by: MEGA_VKNG

I like the idea of the removable attachments, I think the trigger area looks fine.

You could probably call it the XMA

I definitely want to go with "XMA" just need to find the right combination of edgy numbers.....



Oh and I finally decided to get started on the actual model. I'll be posting more incremental updates just in-case any of the people who voted want a chance at voicing their own opinions. I only have Blockout's for now, don't pay too much attention to much of anything since it is all subject to change further down the road, but if you have any suggestions let me know.










First couple of highpoly pieces:


7.62x35mm: (.300 AAC Black out)




25 Round magazines: (It's as many as I could fit)







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