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thecow777
Joined: Mar 7, 2008

in game name: All_levels


Posted: May 25, 2008 05:40 AM    Msg. 1 of 100       
I know there was a topic on stopping aimbotters like 2months ago and they all had "brilliant" ideas but it seemed that in order to work it would require major things that can't be done. Like re making maps to make botting impossible. Programs to stop aimbotters but then you get exceptions or something. Idk. But just to ask, was a solution made? I either play Halo CE or regular version ONLY for sniper servers. Yes there is barley any aimbotters now but noobs still yell "a1m bott3r n3wbs!!!!boot him he r got 80kills and 14defs" when usually it is just the players skill. But time and again aimbotters ruin your fun.

Next point: Wall hackers

I was talking to my friend the other day and he says he gets his "sniper kills" by wall hacking where it shows everyone on the map as either just a "blue" or "red" rectangle depending on what team their on and it sees through walls, rocks ect. So it isnt aim botting but you know if someones coming out of cover ect. And when I looked into it I found its very popular but I reckon it shouldn't happen.

Any ideas?


Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: May 25, 2008 06:18 AM    Msg. 2 of 100       
You won't be able to fix Halo PC from hackers unless Bungie made a new patch and even then people will still find a way. In Halo CE you can use scripts or add invisible bipeds to your maps.


SiMuLaCrUm
Joined: Oct 25, 2006

too digital


Posted: May 25, 2008 09:24 AM    Msg. 3 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: ILLEGALLcheatsMAN
You cannot defeat my minions. MUAHAHAHA!

...no


There have been attempts at stopping these, like invisible bipeds, but I have not heard of them actually being used, or successful for that matter...


madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:15 AM    Msg. 4 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: SiMuLaCrUm
Quote: --- Original message by: ILLEGALLcheatsMAN
You cannot defeat my minions. MUAHAHAHA!

...no


There have been attempts at stopping these, like invisible bipeds, but I have not heard of them actually being used, or successful for that matter...

Even if they updated halo, there would still be a way. There's this thing called "cheat engine" which gets updated so it can work, even against new updates. There is cheat engine 5.4, which can bypass windows LIVE, and the people who use it, no matter how many complaints filed, don't get banned.
The only way to stop cheating is to get something regularly updated anti-cheat like Punk Buster, but how would Halo get punk buster?

Quote: --- Original message by: selentic
Sightjack, get video, get hash, post here.

http://www.hivclan.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=574

There are M§K members in that list... so that's why some of them do so good at snow grove.
Edited by madkiller92 on May 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:16 AM    Msg. 5 of 100       
CE is too old for Punk Buster. CoD4 is still fairly new so it helps stop the cheaters.


madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:20 AM    Msg. 6 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkZealot
CE is too old for Punk Buster. CoD4 is still fairly new so it helps stop the cheaters.

H2V is a BIG problem. With cheat engine 5.4, LIVE can't detect it, and windows LIVE won't ban people who use it, even if a complaint is filed. Why can't H2V use PB? It's new. And most people use the speed hack, which lets you glide around the map, you could go across coagulation in 1 second!


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:21 AM    Msg. 7 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: madkiller92
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkZealot
CE is too old for Punk Buster. CoD4 is still fairly new so it helps stop the cheaters.

H2V is a BIG problem. With cheat engine 5.4, LIVE can't detect it, and windows LIVE won't ban people who use it, even if a complaint is filed. Why can't H2V use PB? It's new. And most people use the speed hack, which lets you glide around the map, you could go across coagulation in 1 second!


Wow, that's horrible, on H2 Xbox I only see 3-6 cheaters a month....


madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:26 AM    Msg. 8 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkZealot
Quote: --- Original message by: madkiller92
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkZealot
CE is too old for Punk Buster. CoD4 is still fairly new so it helps stop the cheaters.

H2V is a BIG problem. With cheat engine 5.4, LIVE can't detect it, and windows LIVE won't ban people who use it, even if a complaint is filed. Why can't H2V use PB? It's new. And most people use the speed hack, which lets you glide around the map, you could go across coagulation in 1 second!


Wow, that's horrible, on H2 Xbox I only see 3-6 cheaters a month....

Yes, and the guy who made it, has a forum about how to improve it and make it more undetected!
And couldn't these people spread to H1 or HCE if they wanted to?
And by "most people" I mean most who get cheat engine 5.4 use speed hack. H2V only has 60-120 people, so about 5-7 people using it on the few severs that are in H2V, can ruin all of MP.
Edited by madkiller92 on May 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:41 AM    Msg. 9 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: selentic
They cant be banned in halo 2 vista. In CE they can.

Micro$oft sucks at computer gaming now. >:(
Edited by DarkHalo003 on May 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:45 AM    Msg. 10 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkHalo003
Quote: --- Original message by: selentic
They cant be banned in halo 2 vista. In CE they can.

Micro$oft sucks at computer gaming now. >:(
Edited by DarkHalo003 on May 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM


You know what, what the hell is with people writing Micro$oft, if you're going to mention them, actually spell their name out (Microsoft if you are blatantly stupid).

Microsoft has more success on the XBox 360 then PC games, so generally the console games will always be better than the PC games.


DEEhunter
Joined: Dec 16, 2006


Posted: May 25, 2008 10:46 AM    Msg. 11 of 100       
A server application that can detect immediate viewing angles.


gamegodlazy
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Aug 17, 2006

Please pass the Panda Sauce to me


Posted: May 25, 2008 04:50 PM    Msg. 12 of 100       
only way to stop them is to ban them from every server

so if you have ur own server botters wont come that often caus if a dedicated server is regularly moderated the aimbotters will have less and less servers that htey can join


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: May 25, 2008 04:52 PM    Msg. 13 of 100       
Aimbot is very fun in SP campaigns when you are extremely bored.


gamegodlazy
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Aug 17, 2006

Please pass the Panda Sauce to me


Posted: May 25, 2008 05:19 PM    Msg. 14 of 100       
to be honest i think you should be ashamed caus you have aimbot on ur pc in the first place
then using it even in sp :[


thecow777
Joined: Mar 7, 2008

in game name: All_levels


Posted: May 26, 2008 01:37 AM    Msg. 15 of 100       
Hahahahahaaha, I was just surfing the net to see if on any other sites they have fixed this matter and I found a forum of some guy who posted on a website an aimbotter that aims ABOVE their head so no matter how you use it you dont get a kill. He says its to make the new people who have never aim botted before to never do it again. LOL!!!!!!!

anyways, what was that about invisible bipeds?


NapalM
Joined: Jul 8, 2007

keke


Posted: May 26, 2008 09:00 AM    Msg. 16 of 100       
You cant do anything really, besides ban them. And the correct term for the bot your friend uses is a "color" bot, simplest to make.


supersniper
Joined: Jul 28, 2007

fear the sniper


Posted: May 26, 2008 10:25 AM    Msg. 17 of 100       
Well there used to be a program called halobuster but they stopped supporting it and it doesn't work anymore. Here was the website. http://www.halostats.com/


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: May 26, 2008 03:36 PM    Msg. 18 of 100       
Ive never tried aimbot.


AlwinRoth
Joined: Jan 4, 2008


Posted: May 26, 2008 07:49 PM    Msg. 19 of 100       
yeah... how does aimbot work???


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: May 26, 2008 08:10 PM    Msg. 20 of 100       
i just watched my pickup icon tutorial again to see if it needed revision and noticed that i have an aimbot. i dont use it, and frankly, i dont think iv played at all in the past like.... 4 months. hogdriver gave me a map pack to play with and it had the aimbot in it. i didnt even know what it was then. but rest assured, i dont use it.


NapalM
Joined: Jul 8, 2007

keke


Posted: May 26, 2008 08:21 PM    Msg. 21 of 100       
Do you think that the hackers are retards? They would quickly find a work arround, and in the mean time theyd use wallhacks, which are client sided and thus you couldn't just make a script to do something when theyre wallhacking.


NapalM
Joined: Jul 8, 2007

keke


Posted: May 26, 2008 08:26 PM    Msg. 22 of 100       
You kinda could, just look to see if they seem to "predict" where the enemy is coming from.. but they could just act casual.


NapalM
Joined: Jul 8, 2007

keke


Posted: May 26, 2008 08:30 PM    Msg. 23 of 100       
Sometimes I with halo had punkbuster... theres really nothing we can do cept ban the players.


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: May 26, 2008 08:59 PM    Msg. 24 of 100       
lol^
any map thats portaled cuts off the wire frame anyway


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: May 27, 2008 11:28 AM    Msg. 25 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: tomdoml
halo makes it way to easy to create an aimbot
Actually the server side paradigm for Halo 1 and CE has made the game fairly robust in the anti-cheat arena because unlike client side games like Fear, HL and UT the server is deterministic and makes the decision for hits and kills. That determinism has made the Halo game fairly immune to common client side type overrides prevalent in other games.


madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008


Posted: May 27, 2008 09:23 PM    Msg. 26 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: teh ganon
Quote: --- Original message by: Stw Baroner
Quote: --- Original message by: teh ganon
that cia clan is full of botters


No freakin lie, glad I'm not the only one to notice!




eat **** and die

- [CIA] Ganon
Edited by teh ganon on May 27, 2008 at 06:11 PM

Lol, reverse kill and deaths, and same ping and assists as yokan. And there is a graphics fix, don't realize how ugly the AR looks without specular.
And that's a pretty good amount/kills. But Aimbots score a lot higher, so it seems unlikely that you use one. Aimbots usually have 20-30+ and 2-4 or less deaths.


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: May 27, 2008 09:34 PM    Msg. 27 of 100       
My aimbot doesn't work anymore, as SOON as it starts CE exceptions. D: And I fight with my true skill on multiplayer.


Dhark
Joined: Feb 2, 2008

I believe in Dennis Powers


Posted: May 27, 2008 11:31 PM    Msg. 28 of 100       
well actually FYI to a post made by someone way up there; if you have the rcon or ur host, its incredibly easy to cheat with Dev


DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.


Posted: May 27, 2008 11:38 PM    Msg. 29 of 100       
I played Yokan. He was easily aimbotting. I got pwned by a pistol in three shots. And there ARE Halo3 aimbotters. I played thre games against them. Either that, or there was incredi-lag.


thecow777
Joined: Mar 7, 2008

in game name: All_levels


Posted: May 28, 2008 08:47 AM    Msg. 30 of 100       
15 kills and 3 deaths? err...isn't that...normal? Whats the big fuss about?


thecow777
Joined: Mar 7, 2008

in game name: All_levels


Posted: May 28, 2008 09:45 AM    Msg. 31 of 100       
Quote: --- Original message by: Destroyer
Quote: --- Original message by: sinned
Problem Solved
Server side program looking at players rotation, sudden movements such of an aimbot = kick, second attempt = ban. Script running every few seconds with command (rasterizer_wireframe 0 -ithink..).



what if your mouse sensitivity is 10?wouldn't it kick you just for turning very fast



Yeah you would be liek "WTF!!!!!O_o????wtf is this, why am i banned. WTH IS THIS!!!!!!!" but generally aimbotting is in "sniper" servers. And you can't aim a gun at 10 sensitivity, let alone a sniper(or i just suck). So i doubt anyone would. 10sensitivity is mainly for messing around on it and thats generally done in slayer servers where theres generally no aimbots. But yer, that is a VERY good point there. I wonder how we can pass it.


Falcon
Joined: Dec 17, 2007

Trolls don't annoy me; they just amuse me.


Posted: May 28, 2008 12:04 PM    Msg. 32 of 100       
Im tired of the bot paranoid people that claim everyone is a botter. People need to just Sight Jack them and see for themselves. Instead of typing "BOT" every 5 seconds because they suck at halo. People just need to Sight Jack. Record. Ban and post hash. HIV has a good system for that and i think that more clans need to apply what HIV does to their servers.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: May 28, 2008 05:34 PM    Msg. 33 of 100       
So downloading alldev for making movies is a crime now?


Mythic128
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

-Account Locked-


Posted: May 28, 2008 05:35 PM    Msg. 34 of 100       
Wait, nevermind. It could've been mouse sensitivity.
Edited by Mythic128 on May 28, 2008 at 05:43 PM


NapalM
Joined: Jul 8, 2007

keke


Posted: May 28, 2008 06:26 PM    Msg. 35 of 100       
Exposed... very nicee

 
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