
Mythic128
Joined: Jan 1, 2008
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 08:04 PM
Msg. 1 of 22
I have heard people say "The Halo 2 editing kit is locked up". Do they mean there once was a Halo 2 Custom Edition?
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 08:13 PM
Msg. 2 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: Sgt Stacker No, they mean hired gun released a crappy editing kit that they threw together at the last minute at a hopeless attempt to "satisfy" the loyal fans of the halo franchise, but failed miserably because it was only truly useful on a operating system that nobody really uses yet. Don't expect many good maps in halo 2 anytime soon. When Guerrilla Radio comes out there still wont be many good maps until Halo 6 is out in 2012 when everyone has vista, only for the world to explode before the truth is revealed. Don't talk unless you know what went on. THE H2EK was a big part of development since the game started. Hired Gun fought MS on the issue of having a locked HEK, but MS put there foot down. And tha'ts more than HG would want me to say right now.
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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 08:18 PM
Msg. 3 of 22
Halo 6 lol... Halo 3 is the last of the game series. Except if you include Halo wars. But they did leave the game hanging.... Yet, Microsoft made a wise and terrible decision for h2 to be on vista. I hate it personally. All they want is for you to buy vista so you can play h2. Whats "Guerrilla Radio" by the way?
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 08:40 PM
Msg. 4 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: Sgt StackerQuote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Sgt Stacker No, they mean hired gun released a crappy editing kit that they threw together at the last minute at a hopeless attempt to "satisfy" the loyal fans of the halo franchise, but failed miserably because it was only truly useful on a operating system that nobody really uses yet. Don't expect many good maps in halo 2 anytime soon. When Guerrilla Radio comes out there still wont be many good maps until Halo 6 is out in 2012 when everyone has vista, only for the world to explode before the truth is revealed. Don't talk unless you know what went on. THE H2EK was a big part of development since the game started. Hired Gun fought MS on the issue of having a locked HEK, but MS put there foot down. And tha'ts more than HG would want me to say right now. Do they have a gun to your head? <lol> No, but theres a thing called trust and politics that people on these forums should learn about.
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Rm860
Joined: Sep 7, 2006
Dennis sleeps like this!
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 09:10 PM
Msg. 5 of 22
One of you could have answered his question.
When people say locked up h2ek they are talking about how limited it's use it. Like for example you cant create custom weapons and vehicles. Pretty much all you can make is BSP's. Basically MS let down what alot of people were looking forward to. The decision to keep it locked up really prevented halo 2 from growning as fast as it could have. We lost alot of great mappers because of the locked h2ek.
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madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 09:24 PM
Msg. 6 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Sgt StackerQuote: --- Original message by: Masters1337Quote: --- Original message by: Sgt Stacker No, they mean hired gun released a crappy editing kit that they threw together at the last minute at a hopeless attempt to "satisfy" the loyal fans of the halo franchise, but failed miserably because it was only truly useful on a operating system that nobody really uses yet. Don't expect many good maps in halo 2 anytime soon. When Guerrilla Radio comes out there still wont be many good maps until Halo 6 is out in 2012 when everyone has vista, only for the world to explode before the truth is revealed. Don't talk unless you know what went on. THE H2EK was a big part of development since the game started. Hired Gun fought MS on the issue of having a locked HEK, but MS put there foot down. And that's more than HG would want me to say right now. Do they have a gun to your head? <lol> No, but theres a thing called trust and politics that people on these forums should learn about. I heard about that on bungie.net topic. And I also heard on bungie.net topic that MS may have used Hired Gun as an excuse for a bad H2V, and they'd take no blame. That true?
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 09:38 PM
Msg. 7 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: madkiller92 I heard about that on bungie.net topic. And I also heard on bungie.net topic that MS may have used Hired Gun as an excuse for a bad H2V, and they'd take no blame. That true? That is all speculation. There are a lot of reasons the game was developed they way it is and only the developers know them all. One of the big issues is that there are numerous legal and liability issues with user created content when that content is distributed over a proprietary network like Windows Live. Because of Live and the fact that the maps are downloaded through a pay-to-play system Microsoft now become libel for any copyright infringement you as the map maker may inject into the maps. One of the ways to limit that liability is to limit what can and cannot be placed into a map. In their first update to the game they took the custom map picture functionality out of it to prevent copyrighted or potentially obscene material from being distributed. No one here and I mean NO ONE has the inside scoop on the decision making so everything is speculation.
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TVTyrant
Joined: Mar 16, 2008
Who am I?
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 09:44 PM
Msg. 8 of 22
Its kind of annoying that thy did that. I mean, if H2V had the HEK open or a custom edition of it, I'd be all for it. Hell, I'd upgrade just for it. But with the way it is, with the need of the Live service for custom maps, and how many glitches it supposedly has, well...I see no reason to even look at it. I've said it before, but its pretty sad when Microsoft manages to **** up a HALO game.
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DarkHalo003
Joined: Mar 10, 2008
All ARs Need Green Little Buttons.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 10:00 PM
Msg. 9 of 22
Microsoft is now officially a money empire. That is all it cares about. Not its customers perferences or anything of that sort. The ony thing they care about is the customer's money, which is why they produce what they do. They "fix" to keep customer's loyal to them and to not lose money. It is all about the money of business for Microsoft.
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Rm860
Joined: Sep 7, 2006
Dennis sleeps like this!
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Posted: Apr 24, 2008 10:04 PM
Msg. 10 of 22
I am not getting halo 2 untill it's 15 bucks or less. I only want to play the campain i say screw multiplayer.
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HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007
Used to be my H3 Emblem
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Posted: Apr 25, 2008 12:41 PM
Msg. 11 of 22
I say screw Vista. Port it to XP.
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Kiwi
Joined: Jan 19, 2007
Now you see him, soon you won't
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Posted: Apr 25, 2008 01:09 PM
Msg. 12 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkHalo003 Microsoft is now officially a money empire. That is all it cares about. Not its customers perferences or anything of that sort. The ony thing they care about is the customer's money, which is why they produce what they do. They "fix" to keep customer's loyal to them and to not lose money. It is all about the money of business for Microsoft. Lrn2realworld. That is how businesses WORK. Edited by Kiwi on Apr 25, 2008 at 01:09 PM
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Apr 25, 2008 02:02 PM
Msg. 13 of 22
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Rm860
Joined: Sep 7, 2006
Dennis sleeps like this!
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Posted: Apr 25, 2008 02:35 PM
Msg. 14 of 22
I don't quite understand your post there.
Are you saying vista has an automatic unzipping tool? If so cool but i actually like manually right clicking and unzipping my files.
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Enzo03
- Screenshot Guru -
Joined: Aug 3, 2007
I'd rather go without than take what you'd bring.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2008 06:48 PM
Msg. 15 of 22
It is all because of those CRAP BETAS of Vista and people too stupid to realize that the version they had bore NO GUARANTEES OF BEING BUG FREE and that final builds would be less buggy. There is a reason for mass public betas, and that is to find as many bugs and problems as possible while giving users a little taste of what is to come.
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Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005
"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008 11:22 AM
Msg. 16 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: Sgt Stacker Are they really expecting people to upgrade just because of the oh so threatening end of life? Yes and by the end of the year Vista will be all you can buy. This is the way of the world.
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DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008
Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM
Msg. 17 of 22
Dennis is right, XP stops being sold and supported this year... and Microsoft has no plans to extend it.
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DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008
Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008 12:06 PM
Msg. 18 of 22
Windows 7 is the next operating system after Vista.
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madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008 01:21 PM
Msg. 19 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: Enzo03 It is all because of those CRAP BETAS of Vista and people too stupid to realize that the version they had bore NO GUARANTEES OF BEING BUG FREE and that final builds would be less buggy. There is a reason for mass public betas, and that is to find as many bugs and problems as possible while giving users a little taste of what is to come. Vista has no bugs for me. They even updated it and released an official SP1 for vista, called RC1. And I downloaded it via windows update, not the leaked ones.
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Dusinator
Joined: Mar 23, 2008
Abuser of dots and parenthesis.
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008 01:58 PM
Msg. 20 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: DarkZealot Windows 7 is the next operating system after Vista. Here's what wikipedia has to say about Windows 7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7And we all know that this is 100% true because isn't everything you read on the internet supposed to the 100% unbiased truth? >>>Point being, it's Wikipedia. Anyone can edit the stuff in there. I provide the link. Someone else puts in the content.
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madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008 01:59 PM
Msg. 21 of 22
Windows 2000 NT 5.0.3700.6690 Extended Support until July 13, 2010[18](Why continue 2000 and not xp?!) 6 September 2000 Windows Me 4.90.3000 Unsupported 6 October 2001 Windows XP NT 5.1.2600 Current for SP2 (RTM and SP1 unsupported). 8 March 2003 Windows XP 64-bit Edition 2003 NT 5.2.3790 Unsupported 6 April 2003 Windows Server 2003 NT 5.2.3790 Current for SP1, R2, SP2 (RTM unsupported). 8 April 2005 Windows XP Professional x64 Edition NT 5.2.3790 Current 8 July 2006 Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs NT 5.1.2600 Current - November 2006 (volume licensing)/January 2007 (retail) Windows Vista NT 6.0.6000 Current 8 July 2007 Windows Home Server NT 5.2.4500 Current - February 2008 Windows Server 2008 NT 6.0.6001 Current 8 (look at this)2010 (planned) Windows 7 (codenamed Blackcomb, then Vienna) NT 7.0 Future release Edited by madkiller92 on Apr 26, 2008 at 02:00 PM Edited by madkiller92 on Apr 26, 2008 at 02:01 PM
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ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007
A rare sight, indeed.
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Posted: Apr 27, 2008 09:59 AM
Msg. 22 of 22
Quote: --- Original message by: madkiller92 Windows 2000 NT 5.0.3700.6690 Extended Support until July 13, 2010[18](Why continue 2000 and not xp?!) 6
I believe it was something along the lines of it works very well with certain programs. Or a lot of people still have old computers and need it.
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