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HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 04:46 PM    Msg. 1 of 60       
Im not calling it Avalanche. Because H3MT or someone will proably make one.

So im going to call it Snowfall.

It's basically a mod of Sidewinder. Made to look like Avalanche. I've had little experiance on Avalanche. But I know a little of the layout and things. Yes. There is the possobility of Mancannons. I will try to get it as avalanche as I can. Since Avalanche and Sidewinder are two favirouites of mine.

From Bungie.net I've researched and found out that it's basically sidewinder but mainly more Vehicular, with teleports blocked off and tunnels blocked off.

It will be pretty Meh, But hopefully if I can find out how to make the H3 Weapons tag pack's .obj filed and .tiff files into Gbxmodel tags and bitmaps tags. Then hopefully there will be some H3 Content.

This will be my First publically released map. My other 6 maps are for private use of [BP] clan.

I will need some help with turning the Tag pack's .obj files and .tiff files into tags. If you want to help hit me up on Xfire - Haloslayerz.

Pics soon.

Have faith in me. pleeease?


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 04:53 PM    Msg. 2 of 60       
if you can show us some progress, you have my faith


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 05:09 PM    Msg. 3 of 60       
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7428/blockedofftunnelssk9.png

I only just started. Im using boulder_granite_gigantic to block off the tunnels through the cliff's and have blocked the teleports. Tomorrow I will add mancannons. Untill then its Sleeeeeeep for me.

And i think the granite boulders look meh. But ill find some snowy rocks to replace them. Unless someone makes me some good snowy rocks that are pretty much the size of boulder_granite_gigantic.

But i got to sleep now. And I have school tomorow. Cya tomorrow guys.


ThePlague
Joined: Dec 16, 2007

Steam: jubalearlybh


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 05:45 PM    Msg. 4 of 60       
D=

You crushed my dreams. I thought you were going to make the map from scratch, but starting from the actual Sidewinder map is D:

I suggest you start this map from scratch or you will encounter some very mad people.

Oh and remember that Avalanche is like 2 sidewinders big, with lots of Man cannons.


Enzo03
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Aug 3, 2007

I'd rather go without than take what you'd bring.


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 05:54 PM    Msg. 5 of 60       
If you are gonna edit sidewinder... at least slap the model into gmax and edit the model there some. Otherwise, this is gonna be another dead map. Sorry.


Dontu
Joined: Oct 8, 2006

42


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 08:53 PM    Msg. 6 of 60       
It’s great that you know how to add scenery in Sapien, but to make Avalanche you need to start from scratch with you own level geometry, that way you will have complete control of the map's layout. It may seem impossible to do at first, but take the time to learn how to model. Like most good things in life, it takes time and effort to become decent at. Watch some tutorials and do some personal experimentation to learn the programs and tools.


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 09:01 PM    Msg. 7 of 60       
your name always makes me think im skitzafranic and post in threads then later on wonder when i did it.


Enzo03
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Aug 3, 2007

I'd rather go without than take what you'd bring.


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 09:23 PM    Msg. 8 of 60       
:-\ Well with your recent behavior, we have reason to think its you... but then again... nah..

I will just say that it COULD be you (personally, I think it is, "sorry")... but there are idiots out there ;-)


TVTyrant
Joined: Mar 16, 2008

Who am I?


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 09:24 PM    Msg. 9 of 60       
Wheres Dennis when we need him most...*sighs*


aDirtyShisno213
Joined: Jun 22, 2007

ohai der


Posted: Apr 21, 2008 10:34 PM    Msg. 10 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: H4Z4RD
D=

You crushed my dreams. I thought you were going to make the map from scratch, but starting from the actual Sidewinder map is D:

I suggest you start this map from scratch or you will encounter some very mad people.

Oh and remember that Avalanche is like 2 sidewinders big, with lots of Man cannons.
STFU, you SUCK on Avalanche. You were running in circles and being fascinated by Hornets.

>:(

We lost 0 to 3.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 12:06 PM    Msg. 11 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: H4Z4RD
D=

You crushed my dreams. I thought you were going to make the map from scratch, but starting from the actual Sidewinder map is D:

I suggest you start this map from scratch or you will encounter some very mad people.

Oh and remember that Avalanche is like 2 sidewinders big, with lots of Man cannons.


Why would i waste my poor modding skills on trying to impossibly model something because i cant model. And i relise Avalanche is 2 sidewinders big. And I dont Care. I want people to see something Avalancheish. Even if it isnt as big as avalanche. its still avalanche. so stfu noobs who think this will phail. Give me a chance.

PS. Mancannons working. Just need some good places to put them. Any ideas?

And Kid GTFO my topic. And dont threadjack.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 12:27 PM    Msg. 12 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: TVTyrant
Wheres Dennis when we need him most...*sighs*
I am a moderator not a god damn babysitter. It seems as if you guys want someone hanging on your every word, checking every post in real time to be your conscience so you don’t have to take any responsibility for your actions. Grow up, all of you. Think before you post. If you see something offensive or against the rules or someone is spamming the forum then do not post in those threads. You only make it worse and are as bad as the original spammer or offender.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 04:03 PM    Msg. 13 of 60       
Hes right. Ive noticed u guys are like "Weres dennis when u need him" kinda talk when theres a noob around.

On topic:

Ill give you a guess to as what this is.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3914/guesswhatthisispa3.png

Its still in beta form. And im aiming it to hopefully point to the opposite cliff (Where the turret is)

I also got Snow covered rocks similar to coldsnap wall textures that fit nicely. Like a snowfall.


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 04:07 PM    Msg. 14 of 60       
A horrible energy man-cannon?


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 04:11 PM    Msg. 15 of 60       
Correct!

Masters doesnt know it. But his Gravlifts from H2_coag can be used as working Mancannons.

They are 99.9% beta. I still gotta add the Mancannon base scnery.


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

I swear I'm not actually dead


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 04:41 PM    Msg. 16 of 60       
meh im sure he already knows it :P


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 05:06 PM    Msg. 17 of 60       
For some reason Sapiens console wont open so i cant change the Radiosity of Sidewinder to be brighter and more Avalancheish


madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 07:03 PM    Msg. 18 of 60       
Don't mean to sound mean but it doesn't look interesting to me. Doesn't look to nice to me either. Looks like a sidewinder modification..


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 07:56 PM    Msg. 19 of 60       
lol. Well I'll be making Avalanche since no one else has stepped up. I need textures and a few reference pictures. I don't have legendary map pack so It's not easy.



Refers to http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/HeatMap.ashx?player=UnholyNewbkilla&map=470&wep=127&inf=6



Refers to http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/8014/798_0002.jpg

Edited by Newbkilla on Apr 22, 2008 at 07:59 PM


corndogman939
Joined: Apr 6, 2007

Using the same avatar since 2007


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 07:59 PM    Msg. 20 of 60       
You cant make avalanche with a height map. take on something of a lower level first.


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 07:59 PM    Msg. 21 of 60       
I have it, so if you need pictures let me know.


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 08:01 PM    Msg. 22 of 60       
Actually, they did make it with a heightmap and plus I need to edit the cliffs and everything else too. Also, I've only worked on this for 10 minutes :P So don't go wild.


corndogman939
Joined: Apr 6, 2007

Using the same avatar since 2007


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 08:09 PM    Msg. 23 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
Actually, they did make it with a heightmap and plus I need to edit the cliffs and everything else too. Also, I've only worked on this for 10 minutes :P So don't go wild.


i highly doubt that. proof please.


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 08:10 PM    Msg. 24 of 60       
Think about it, how did they do it then? Just move all the vertices's down lol?


corndogman939
Joined: Apr 6, 2007

Using the same avatar since 2007


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 08:18 PM    Msg. 25 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
Think about it, how did they do it then? Just move all the vertices's down lol?


IF you knew anything about modeling you'd no that hightmaps and box maps are not how levels get made. im guessing they plane modeled it.

actually, i read in an interview about the map pack that they had theyre forerunner guy model the structures and another guy did all the terrain. also being supervised by a level designer who guided them on the layout and such.


Enzo03
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Screenshot Guru
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Joined: Aug 3, 2007

I'd rather go without than take what you'd bring.


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 08:42 PM    Msg. 26 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
Actually, they did make it with a heightmap and plus I need to edit the cliffs and everything else too. Also, I've only worked on this for 10 minutes :P So don't go wild.

Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
Think about it, how did they do it then? Just move all the vertices's down lol?


omg.


Edited by Enzo03 on Apr 22, 2008 at 08:43 PM


madkiller92
Joined: Mar 9, 2008


Posted: Apr 22, 2008 09:36 PM    Msg. 27 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
lol. Well I'll be making Avalanche since no one else has stepped up. I need textures and a few reference pictures. I don't have legendary map pack so It's not easy.



Refers to http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/HeatMap.ashx?player=UnholyNewbkilla&map=470&wep=127&inf=6



Refers to http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/8014/798_0002.jpg

Edited by Newbkilla on Apr 22, 2008 at 07:59 PM

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm%3Fpage=topic&topicID=17006
A topic where you can get h3 screenshots made for you.

lol where'd you get a suicide face..
Edited by madkiller92 on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Edited by madkiller92 on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Edited by madkiller92 on Apr 22, 2008 at 09:41 PM


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 01:20 PM    Msg. 28 of 60       
I like how you Threadjacked me.

Mancannons are working

And i dont care that you think its yuck. If you READ. I said I wanted an Avalanche EXPERIANCE. Not a whole Avalanche MAP!. FFS STOP PUTTING ME DOWN HERE.


Nugga117
Joined: Nov 14, 2005


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 01:24 PM    Msg. 29 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
Actually, they did make it with a heightmap

no.
farcry maps are made using heightmaps, not halo maps.
Edited by Nugga117 on Apr 23, 2008 at 01:25 PM


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 01:37 PM    Msg. 30 of 60       
Farcry maps are nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Who wants a Beta? To test the mancannons. And hopefully If Advancebo finishes making them into model tags - The weapons


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 01:58 PM    Msg. 31 of 60       
Stfu Kid and GTFO my topic.

Im going to release another picture soon. Of the weapons. And has anyone seen a Hornet anywhere? I want to play with one in Sidewinder and see if its ok in such a small map.
******************************************************************************
And for hopefully the final time

I know that This is not Avalanche BSP. It never will be. I also know its alot smaller than Halo 3's Avalanche. But by making This map varient. I just want people to have an Avalancheish experiance in Halo CE. Sort of a Warmup to the Avalanche which I guess one of the Halo 3 teams will make.

I cant model. And dont plan to learn how to use Gmax and everything on the spot just for you guys.

So basically. What I plan to do for you guys by presenting you with this map. Is to give just a small overall feel of what Avalanche is like. (And the fun you can have with Mancannons.)

So yeah. Please stop winging and moaning about this not being Avalanche. If you want Avalanche. Go make Avalanche. This is Snowfall. Its like Avalanche's Offspring.
******************************************************************************
Ok. I hope you guys took that into consideration and hopefully changed views on how this is gonna end up.

Do you think a Hornet (If i can get one) Would work well in Sidewinders smallness?


DarkZealot
Joined: Jan 1, 2008

Time management: 40% Xbox, 30% PC, 30% Skating


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 02:00 PM    Msg. 32 of 60       
There are no public or even privately mentioned Hornets out yet.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 03:24 PM    Msg. 33 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: martynball
You cannot give people the experience from using a map that you have made with a height map.

I would just stop where you are. The shape it completely wrong, there are raised sections in the actual Halo 3 map. And it has got a mass off cliff where as you have got a cliff wall...

If people want a go on man cannons then they can just stick them in bloodgulch.


This map is pathetic, sorry.
Before trying to make something like this, learn to model. Don't use a height map either unless you are going to use it correctly.

If you get the shades of Black/Grey correct you could probably make the basic shape from the height map.

Experiment with height maps in photoshop. And make some custom man cannons, don't use some damn grav lifts which look nothing like a man cannon.

You can easily make the man cannon effect in photoshop.

I understand you may be new, but please don't make stuff and release it when you haven't practiced.


You don't even want to make a hornet, you want to find one to use. Im sure everyone else will do this, so whats the point in you doing that?


Practice makes perfect!
Edited by martynball on Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17 PM


Im not even making a new map. Read the topic. Newbkilla is making that.

Im making a Sidewinder map varient.


yeah... Ill just make a mancannon effect in a program i dont own and dont plan to.

If you read. I mention several times that they are beta.


Im not new. Ive been making maps for approx 1 and a half years. All without the aid of Modeled BSP's and Photoshop. Although i do use Misfit model for editing .obj files.

Your right about that. Im not making one myself. Because I cant. I just want a .gbxmodel tag that i can use over other vehicles and i can edit them. I relise i should of made this more clear

Your right about that. And im a perfectionist. So i do alot of Practice.

Alot of people (Mainly most of Halomaps.) have always said that they would probably be not possible with halo CE's Engine. So you cant just say "oh just stick them in BG". And there not jsut 3 gravlifts. im jsut using the gravlift gbxmodel tag.


HaloSlayer
Joined: May 21, 2007

Used to be my H3 Emblem


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 04:04 PM    Msg. 34 of 60       
IM. NOT. MAKING. A. WHOLE. NEW. BSP.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007

A rare sight, indeed.


Posted: Apr 23, 2008 04:13 PM    Msg. 35 of 60       
Quote: --- Original message by: HaloSlayer
Who wants a Beta? To test the mancannons. And hopefully If Advancebo finishes making them into model tags - The weapons

I wants beta! Can I haz one? No really, I'll be a fair person and give you a chance.

 
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