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Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 13, 2016 04:04 PM Msg. 9731 of 10646 We won't be posting past broadcasts and will stop doing streams if people decide to record and upload them.

Skidrow925 Joined: Mar 19, 2010 "ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"	Posted: Mar 13, 2016 04:58 PM Msg. 9732 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: tarikja Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 We won't be posting past broadcasts and will stop doing streams if people decide to record and upload them. Shares content with the public. Doesn't want that the public shares said published content with the public. Am I missing something? Sounds pretty control freak to me. :l Control freak is practically their motto

lolslayer Joined: Mar 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMHbAKvPJkU	Posted: Mar 13, 2016 05:17 PM Msg. 9733 of 10646 But why not Masterz1337? Not everybody lives in the same time-zone as you do but they still really want to see it

Higuy Joined: Mar 6, 2007 @lucasgovatos	Posted: Mar 13, 2016 06:30 PM Msg. 9734 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 We won't be posting past broadcasts and will stop doing streams if people decide to record and upload them. Lol, what is the point of streaming then? That entire statement is one giant contradiction.

EtchyaSketch Joined: Apr 11, 2014 S P I N	Posted: Mar 13, 2016 11:15 PM Msg. 9735 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 We won't be posting past broadcasts and will stop doing streams if people decide to record and upload them. *"I will stop updating this forum if people copy and paste information from here onto other forums"*

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 13, 2016 11:51 PM Msg. 9736 of 10646 The streams we are doing are of our actual tests, and often show problems and things that are works in progress. While this is true for other videos we have posted, the content is often carefully chosen and elaborated on. We don't want things we can't carefully control posted, until it is in a state where we welcome anyone to see it. The youtube channel gets around 5k views in the first week per video minimum, and we want to control what is seen. As far as availability of the streams, we post here, our reddit, on twitter and if you have the twitch app on your phone you get a notification when we go live. The streams are a way for us to show the community what we are currently doing and engage with people who are watching. For those that can't watch live, we have other ways for you to follow progress in a way that delivers the highlights of our progress.

EtchyaSketch Joined: Apr 11, 2014 S P I N	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 12:46 AM Msg. 9737 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 The streams we are doing are of our actual tests, and often show problems and things that are works in progress. While this is true for other videos we have posted, the content is often carefully chosen and elaborated on. We don't want things we can't carefully control posted, until it is in a state where we welcome anyone to see it. The youtube channel gets around 5k views in the first week per video minimum, and we want to control what is seen. As far as availability of the streams, we post here, our reddit, on twitter and if you have the twitch app on your phone you get a notification when we go live. The streams are a way for us to show the community what we are currently doing and engage with people who are watching. For those that can't watch live, we have other ways for you to follow progress in a way that delivers the highlights of our progress. You're still punishing people who are genuine fans who either don't have the time, internet, or any other constraints from getting excited and getting media about your project. How about make a compromise? Make a edited stream highlight that goes up on the youtube channel with a "Work In Progress" disclaimer at the top? Anything other than "No, sorry you weren't there, right there and then, so I'm going to arbitrarily block you from watching it whats so ever."

xnx Joined: Feb 12, 2013 h2 marine anims or i detonate the vest	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 01:08 AM Msg. 9738 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 Control freak is practically their motto

Super Flanker Joined: Oct 5, 2012 The length of your life depends on my aim.	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 06:17 AM Msg. 9739 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 The streams we are doing are of our actual tests, and often show problems and things that are works in progress. While this is true for other videos we have posted, the content is often carefully chosen and elaborated on. We don't want things we can't carefully control posted, until it is in a state where we welcome anyone to see it. The youtube channel gets around 5k views in the first week per video minimum, and we want to control what is seen. As far as availability of the streams, we post here, our reddit, on twitter and if you have the twitch app on your phone you get a notification when we go live. The streams are a way for us to show the community what we are currently doing and engage with people who are watching. For those that can't watch live, we have other ways for you to follow progress in a way that delivers the highlights of our progress. TLDR; We don't what people to assume that the content in our streams will be closely related representatives of the final or near final product. TLDR +1; We don't want to generate fake hype. Don't worry masterz I understand you. Edited by Super Flanker on Mar 14, 2016 at 06:17 AM

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 10:32 AM Msg. 9740 of 10646 so does stalin

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 01:35 PM Msg. 9741 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketch Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 The streams we are doing are of our actual tests, and often show problems and things that are works in progress. While this is true for other videos we have posted, the content is often carefully chosen and elaborated on. We don't want things we can't carefully control posted, until it is in a state where we welcome anyone to see it. The youtube channel gets around 5k views in the first week per video minimum, and we want to control what is seen. As far as availability of the streams, we post here, our reddit, on twitter and if you have the twitch app on your phone you get a notification when we go live. The streams are a way for us to show the community what we are currently doing and engage with people who are watching. For those that can't watch live, we have other ways for you to follow progress in a way that delivers the highlights of our progress. You're still punishing people who are genuine fans who either don't have the time, internet, or any other constraints from getting excited and getting media about your project. How about make a compromise? Make a edited stream highlight that goes up on the youtube channel with a "Work In Progress" disclaimer at the top? Anything other than "No, sorry you weren't there, right there and then, so I'm going to arbitrarily block you from watching it whats so ever." With every internal beta, we send copies to some of our youtube partners to film videos for their channel, there will be 2 or 3 for the March beta. So it's not like being lucky to catch a stream is your only way for updates.

EtchyaSketch Joined: Apr 11, 2014 S P I N	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 04:59 PM Msg. 9742 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 Quote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketch Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 -snip- -snip- With every internal beta, we send copies to some of our youtube partners to film videos for their channel, there will be 2 or 3 for the March beta. So it's not like being lucky to catch a stream is your only way for updates. You have 3 media announcement avenues, here (Halomaps), your twitter, and your subreddit. Out of those you have only posted about a video by your "Youtube partners?", once on the subreddit. Once loosely alluded to it here on the forums, and never on your twitter. People who had seen that a stream was happening would have seen it in these places yet out of those places only once did you actually link a video. Pretty poor track record. Aaand we are right back at my last post, punishing people for not being right there at the right time.

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 05:33 PM Msg. 9743 of 10646 The goal is to push people to our twitter and reddit, rather than this forum. 90% of the updates don't get posted here anymore. Like I said, if you subscribe on twitch you also get a push notification on your phone or tablet. All videos are posted on the subreddit, and on twitter. I also post an hour before I know I have time to stream on twitter. Between that and twitch notifications, people have as much information as to when we are going to stream as we do. A live event is of course going to punish people for not being there... and releasing a video of buggy, unfinished content that is long and would bore the majority of people looking to find out more about the mod is not what we are wanting to do.

Super Flanker Joined: Oct 5, 2012 The length of your life depends on my aim.	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 06:11 PM Msg. 9744 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 The goal is to push people to our twitter and reddit, rather than this forum. 90% of the updates don't get posted here anymore. :(

Skidrow925 Joined: Mar 19, 2010 "ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 06:15 PM Msg. 9745 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 The goal is to push people to our twitter and reddit, rather than this forum. 90% of the updates don't get posted here anymore. :( No love man, no love

Spartan314 Joined: Aug 21, 2010 Former biped rigger & FP animator	Posted: Mar 14, 2016 11:52 PM Msg. 9746 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 Quote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 The goal is to push people to our twitter and reddit, rather than this forum. 90% of the updates don't get posted here anymore. :( No love man, no love Lyrics from the song Loyal by Chris Brown comes to mind.

DaLode Joined: Oct 4, 2014 Ho ho hooooly doodle!	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 07:54 AM Msg. 9747 of 10646 That's quite ungrateful towards the forum that made alot of Halo CE modding success possible.

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 08:51 AM Msg. 9748 of 10646 When we do post updates here, there is rarely a response give or take a few people. More so, we are focusing on the subreddit because it is more accessible to more people, and people just aren't as interested in signing up to a single dedicated site anymore. It also lets us spin off dedicated threads to certain issues, and engage the halo fanbase as a whole.

WWLinkMasterX Joined: Mar 29, 2009 subliminal message.	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 11:57 AM Msg. 9749 of 10646 Or how about just more heads-up than an hour in advance?

Skidrow925 Joined: Mar 19, 2010 "ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 12:16 PM Msg. 9750 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: snark567 Quote: --- Original message by: WWLinkMasterX Or how about just more heads-up than an hour in advance? Well that's actually also good, it will give more time for the word to spread around so people can actually catch the stream. I'd say two days bare minimum, at least a week preferably, lets word spread and hype build.

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 12:29 PM Msg. 9751 of 10646 yes I want to hear all the latest news and updates about the community mapping team

DaLode Joined: Oct 4, 2014 Ho ho hooooly doodle!	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 01:29 PM Msg. 9752 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 When we do post updates here, there is rarely a response give or take a few people. More so, we are focusing on the subreddit because it is more accessible to more people, and people just aren't as interested in signing up to a single dedicated site anymore. It also lets us spin off dedicated threads to certain issues, and engage the halo fanbase as a whole. You are a man of business, therefore I'm a bit surprised you're not applying basic business practise. Maximizing exposure should be your only concern, even if that means not always getting much replies on all mediums. That aside, I'm sure some members here would appreciate the halomaps loyalty regardless.

MrCool Joined: Aug 17, 2012 Keep it clean	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 02:14 PM Msg. 9753 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 When we do post updates here, there is rarely a response give or take a few people. More so, we are focusing on the subreddit because it is more accessible to more people, and people just aren't as interested in signing up to a single dedicated site anymore. It also lets us spin off dedicated threads to certain issues, and engage the halo fanbase as a whole. Sounds like CMT is starting to work with Microsoft.

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 02:25 PM Msg. 9754 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: DaLode Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 When we do post updates here, there is rarely a response give or take a few people. More so, we are focusing on the subreddit because it is more accessible to more people, and people just aren't as interested in signing up to a single dedicated site anymore. It also lets us spin off dedicated threads to certain issues, and engage the halo fanbase as a whole. You are a man of business, therefore I'm a bit surprised you're not applying basic business practise. Maximizing exposure should be your only concern, even if that means not always getting much replies on all mediums. That aside, I'm sure some members here would appreciate the halomaps loyalty regardless. It's not that we won't be posting at all on halomaps, we just don't do it as often. Sometimes we can't even due to we can't bump our own posts if no one has replied since our last updates. Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 Quote: --- Original message by: snark567 Quote: --- Original message by: WWLinkMasterX Or how about just more heads-up than an hour in advance? Well that's actually also good, it will give more time for the word to spread around so people can actually catch the stream. I'd say two days bare minimum, at least a week preferably, lets word spread and hype build. I only really know within the hour if I will have time to stream. I have been streaming when I know I have to do long tests of a level, often testing multiple new things. In the latest tests, it was going through the levels to test all the new audio, and soon I will have to test the revised vehicle health system (our old one use to "jam"). Edited by Masters1337 on Mar 15, 2016 at 02:28 PM

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 03:57 PM Msg. 9755 of 10646 As I've said, it's very simple. We don't want to be posting buggy and boring content for thousands of people to see. We don't care if it's 20 people watching live, with us commenting about whats broken and making it clear this is a live stream of a beta test.

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 05:02 PM Msg. 9756 of 10646 My "boring" content is the largest and most comprehensive collection of pre-retail h1 footage on the net. If it doesn't interest you, or the majority of other viewers I could care less. What we don't want, is for people to look at at SPV3 footage of me playing the same encounter 3-4 times in a row or just wandering around the levels. When it comes to videos demoing SPV3, I like to think we set the bar fairly high as far as keeping peoples interest the entire time they are watching. When we stream, yes there may be broken content and boring segments, but it's to an audience of 20 people, who we are talking to as we stream. Like I said earlier, we don't want to show buggy boring content for thousands to see preserved on the internet, but we don't have a problem with 20 people who are seeing it interacting with us in real time.

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 07:14 PM Msg. 9757 of 10646 I don't know what you aren't getting. I don't care about the amount of views each video gets (well I do, but it's not THAT important) I care about the quality of the videos I put out. If a video about SPV3 is going to be on my channel, I want it to be interesting start to finish, and not full of boring filler "walk around the level" type things. I stream to let people see the state of the mod and receive feedback. If I were to post them on youtube i'd be receiving feedback on them long after the video is posted when it is no longer relevant. If thousands of people started joining the stream, I'd hope it be near the state of release and not sooner, or I'd probably stop doing them.

BKTiel Joined: Mar 18, 2014 strong independent bird needs no cage	Posted: Mar 15, 2016 09:58 PM Msg. 9758 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: snark567 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 My "boring" content is the largest and most comprehensive collection of pre-retail h1 footage on the net. If it doesn't interest you, or the majority of other viewers I could care less. What we don't want, is for people to look at at SPV3 footage of me playing the same encounter 3-4 times in a row or just wandering around the levels. When it comes to videos demoing SPV3, I like to think we set the bar fairly high as far as keeping peoples interest the entire time they are watching. When we stream, yes there may be broken content and boring segments, but it's to an audience of 20 people, who we are talking to as we stream. Like I said earlier, we don't want to show buggy boring content for thousands to see preserved on the internet, but we don't have a problem with 20 people who are seeing it interacting with us in real time. The content you post is boring to the viewers because they are not there for it, they are there for the mod. That doesn't mean that the information in the videos themselves is bad. It's like me going to a cinema to watch a horror movie because I love horror movies only to wait 3 hours and when the flick actually starts it turns out it's a documentary on watching birds. You don't want to post those videos of fear that you will demote spv3 and make people loose interest in the mod which I presume has already happened to all the side stuff you post. As I said, every time a viewer skips a video the chances of getting information about the mod in his/her inbox is getting smaller. So what I'm getting at is, is streaming actually helping you? Because there has to be a reason for you to stream and since you keep promoting reddit and twitter in order for people to see the notifications, what would happen if suddenly thousands of people join your stream? Right now you seem like my friend who makes videos of games and then doesn't share them with anyone, except with him he actually preserves them, as far as I know you don't so you are just streaming for the sake of streaming. Anyways this isn't going anywhere, back to waiting for updates or maybe some unrelated videos. I love birds

XxPopeAK49xX Joined: Jan 31, 2016 It's better being a jerk.	Posted: Mar 16, 2016 12:51 AM Msg. 9759 of 10646 Masterz is right guys. SPv3 is boring.

Skidrow925 Joined: Mar 19, 2010 "ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"	Posted: Mar 16, 2016 12:59 AM Msg. 9760 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: XxPopeAK49xX Masterz is right guys. SPv3 is boring. I'm inclined to agree

Pepzee Joined: Sep 9, 2010 Retired Halo Modder	Posted: Mar 16, 2016 01:07 AM Msg. 9761 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 It's not that we won't be posting at all on halomaps, we just don't do it as often. If you're trying to alienate your player-base by saying this, it's working.

Super Flanker Joined: Oct 5, 2012 The length of your life depends on my aim.	Posted: Mar 16, 2016 07:56 AM Msg. 9762 of 10646 MSMT.

Echo77 Joined: Jul 20, 2010 Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.	Posted: Mar 16, 2016 11:48 AM Msg. 9763 of 10646 Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 the largest and most comprehensive collection of pre-retail h1 footage on the net Quote: --- Original message by: snark567 they are not there for it I actually go there for the early Halo footage more than I go for mod info, but that's for Pre-Xbox Halo cult purposes.

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 16, 2016 01:00 PM Msg. 9764 of 10646 Then you'd probably like this http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1212352

Masters1337 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 halonaminator's unfortunate idol	Posted: Mar 16, 2016 03:41 PM Msg. 9765 of 10646 You act like the numbers matter.