the expert arrives "well it's excellent condition, and the signatures are real, but at the rate hardware value drops, and the fact it runs OSX, i'd say it's worth 1000"
[expert leaves]

Rick says "Alright, best i can do is 500"

Masterz "._."

Masterz: "Well I was really expecting something in the 1000 range, can you come up a little?"

Rick: "I mean, it's just going to be a really tough sell, I don't have anyone coming in my shop and going, 'hey man do you have a cmt member owned pc signed by bungie employees'?"

Masterz: Shuffles feet. "Well, what about 650?"

Rick: "500 is the best I can do, It's going to sit and sit and sit"

Masterz: Shrugs "Alright deal"

Rick: "Great!", "Chum come over here and write this up,"

Chum: "Ohh what is it?"

Rick: "It;s a very expensive piece of hardware, I want you to box it up, and put it out back in the warehouse"

"And don't mess around with it!"



5 hours later........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2c9J-QGYQ0

Well it's not like Surface Pro 3 units are flying off shelves... I am not to crazy about it myself, its a poor PC and a poor Tablet, only thing it has going for it is portable Halo with good battery life. It really was the perfect demo machine for PAX. The Macbook I will probably keep for another 5 or 6 years, this thing is a beast and won't be slowing down anytime soon.

UUI 1.1 :)

cool, the commander and none left behing, and the library evolded xd

Posted before I could >:/
Anyway yeah, can't wait until we learn more about those maps.

new door of control room ?

I think whatever shader changes have been made to the door is the least interesting thing the UUI has unveiled.

You guys are keeping the Silent Cartographer level sunset like in spv2? : (
Are all SPV3 levels going to be dark? I was expecting more of a beautiful tropical morning/daytime look.

SPV2's lightmaps were never final or intended to be like that, right now the level has the same lighting as the original. Everything is going to be eventually redone using DLMs... or at least thats the plan. We actually use lighting this time around to give the player a sense of time.

POA-Space (So irrelevant)
Halo-Day
T&R-Night
TSC (Classic and Evolved): Sunrise
AOTCR: Day
343 GS: Day
Library (Classic and Evolved): Afternoon
2 Betrayals: Night
Keyes: Night
None Left Behind: Daybreak
The Commander (Classic and Evolved): Daybreak
The Maw: Day.

But one of those takes place on a Bloodmoon.

And the Bloodmoon is a sign of Hircine's Hunt. Who wants to turn into a Lycan to take part in the hunt?

But, back on topic. Why does a custom level need to be "Evolved"?

so much yes... i'd love to see skyrim halo that wasn't made by killer5000

that would make one kickass multiplayer map.


So you're doing two evolved levels for the second half of the campaign? I don't quite understand why d30 needs two versions...

Consistency since we are including Classic and Evolved versions of TSC and Library. Plus D30 Classic is something that was started years ago, even before we had started TSC:E

If you ask me this whole idea of splitting efforts on the same set of maps with the same tags into two separate projects with different goals etc in an attempt to appease everyone was silly from the start and just downright confusing.

But you didn't ask, so I'll keep my mouth shut =)

They're vastly different level designs, which provide totally different experiences, Library Evolved is entering production in the next month or so as pre-production is nearly done. We'll have news on that in probably January or February.

Why u no make prototype suit from halo legends (don't say anything about mantis i already know).

Probably because it would fulfill more-or-less the same purpose as the Mantis, and they like the Mantis more.

Uh?... I forgot about the Mantis! How is the Mantis going? Where will we be able to see it? I barely remember anything about it.

masturz respond plz
Edited by Danger_zone_98 on Sep 15, 2014 at 02:55 PM

Pretty sure it's still green. It may have been cut, we didn't see any hint of it in the trailer.

for those wondering what they are talking about.


Edited by MEGASEAN2812 on Sep 15, 2014 at 08:54 PM

As of now it is close to being cut, the payoff for making one isn't looking like it will be worth the effort, especially as we have started to develop the last half of the game and the flood.

Mhm yeah, I was thinking this would be the answer. And really I was hoping for it to. The Mantis is something I like in Halo 4, but doesn't fit in with Halo:CE. Kind of like what I was saying about Armor Abilities in response to them not being in TSC:E.

"Trying to add something new to a product that doesn't need it never turns out right, and as you said, can sometimes break the gameplay or 'feel' to the game."

This. I'm kinda glad we're not going to end up stomping around with a UNSC mech in Combat Evolved. I'd rather see the time and effort devoted to other things.
Edited by Echo77 on Sep 15, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Well if you are adding something for the sake of adding it, and there is no grand gameplay design around it, its not going to fit very well. There are several things working against the mantis right now

A50: Low FPS at where you would want to use it due to the level geometry itself.
B40: Tank is already a good option other than the mantis.
C40: New areas now that they are fully developed or planned do not encompass the mantis well, and adding it into classic areas would ruin those segments.
D30: For on foot segments, Covenant lack anything that in the hands of the player, would be effective at bringing one down, leaving it only vulnerable to vehicles.

While it does have a significant role planned for C20:Evolved, that can be easily cut out and would rid of things that would add significantly to the development time.

i hope the library has intense vehicular warzones

1) "343 GS: Day" - Does that mean the map will be sunny, or just bright for a swamp?

2) "Library (Classic and Evolved): Afternoon" - Implying C20:E will have outdoor sections?

3) "None Left Behind" is probably the most curious reveal. For one, it comes before D30. Is this D25?! If you've been following this thread, D25 was originally a suggestion for a mission where you fly in a banshee and blow up the T&R. There were several suggestions, but the most prominent ones involved a flight level since D20 ends with and D40 begins with a banshee. (At this point, people were just trying to guess what D30 was about).

The description says it's about getting the marines off Halo (none left behind, lol) and the image displayed is a shot of the ring. Will CMT finally be taking advantage of their sparrowhawk asset?


Also, why does the image for D30 look SO much like B30?

A lot of people seem to be complaining about it, will reticule bloom be an option you can toggle on/off ?

I don't see what's wrong with it. The only difference is now you actually have a visual animated crosshair which shows your bullets becoming increasingly inaccurate. Honestly Halo has had the progressive spread of projectiles since the first game so I don't know why anyone would complain about it.

Yeah I don't really know either. It was one of my favorite things they added in Halo: Reach. I've just seen a lot of complaints on this thread and a few others on Halomaps.

I hope 343 GS isn't made into a day level, the night part was supposed to be part of supporting that "swamp monster" effect like that old swamp monster movie in black and white

I have to admit that I'm a bit confused by the decision to have 343 Guilty Spark take place during broad daylight. It's a lot of suspense and low-visibility and things going bump in the night followed by a hundred terrible creatures crawling out of the darness.

1. 343 at day just means the fog is green, not blue. Before Library: Evolved was a thing, the plan was to have the fog be green when you went inside the structure, and blue when you got out. So as seen in the UUI, the visual difference is that the fog is green, just like it was in backwash.

2. The complaints about bloom are more or less baseless. Bloom has been part of H1, H2, and H3 before it was made visual in Reach. While Reach did use the fact that bloom was more apparent, in order to add more bloom to weapons, that is not what we are doing. The weapon that is most effected by bloom is the Pistol, and you already have a vidoc that demonstrate how it plays.

Whatever you with 343 - don't kill the mood. That level still gives me the heeby jeebys.

its going to be intresting for the latter halfs of the project with flood to see how you make them a bigger threat to the covenant, ive always felt that in open sections like 2 betrayals the flood get their asses handed to them espically near the end of the map where the covenant would rip through the flood with vehicles and shades and any time you give the flood rockets they just end up killing them selves cause they cant aim to save their laves