
Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 09:41 PM
Msg. 7841 of 10646
CMT extras for the most part have been folded into the game itself in the forms of AAs and weapon features. Given the ever dwindling amount of tagslots, script space, and model data, it's unlikely we will have it returning.
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 10:05 PM
Msg. 7842 of 10646
I remember for C10 SPV2, it had snow instead of the swampy environment. Will you keep the snow or swamp for SPV3. And it may be likely for the CMT Extras should have some new features since some are ingame. Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM
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Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008
Still here. Still loves bacon
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 10:37 PM
Msg. 7843 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan_234
I remember for C10 SPV2, it had snow instead of the swampy environment. Will you keep the snow or swamp for SPV3. And it may be likely for the CMT Extras should have some new features since some are ingame. Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM that was a fan remake of spv2, not an actual spv2 beta. the only actual spv2 betas released were a10, a30, b30, b40, and d40. Any other "spv2 beta" was likely uploaded by a fanboy thinking it was the real deal. Most of the unofficial levels uploaded were actually created by ForestKeller in the wake of the mod cancellation, so that everyone would have something to play. He did the entire campaign but never officially uploaded it to Halomaps. The telltale signs of these false betas are the lack of new bsps, which every official beta level had. So no, you probably won't see a snow swamp in C10
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 10:50 PM
Msg. 7844 of 10646
I forgot that they were fake SPV2 Betas out there. Plus the guys who made them were terrible. Oh well no snow swamp. For The Library I would say the atmosphere would be Flood Spores and Flood Mist. The inside of keyes would have Flood biomass, spores and mist. The outside of keyes is just snow.
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austen1000
Joined: Sep 4, 2012
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 10:50 PM
Msg. 7845 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan_234
I remember for C10 SPV2, it had snow instead of the swampy environment. Will you keep the snow or swamp for SPV3. And it may be likely for the CMT Extras should have some new features since some are ingame. Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM that was a fan remake of spv2, not an actual spv2 beta. the only actual spv2 betas released were a10, a30, b30, b40, and d40. Any other "spv2 beta" was likely uploaded by a fanboy thinking it was the real deal. Most of the unofficial levels uploaded were actually created by ForestKeller in the wake of the mod cancellation, so that everyone would have something to play. He did the entire campaign but never officially uploaded it to Halomaps. The telltale signs of these false betas are the lack of new bsps, which every official beta level had. So no, you probably won't see a snow swamp in C10 The fake betas were no where near as fun as the real ones. B40 was unplayable because of the corrupt BSP, so, i had to resort to the SPV1 release. The fake betas are just lacking. I still debate with myself whether to replace C10-D20 with their SPV1 counterparts. SPV2 A50 had a bit more, but, graphics were corrupt. Fortunatly, theres the SPV3 demo level for that.
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 11:07 PM
Msg. 7846 of 10646
Here's an outline: A10-SPV2 A30-SPV2 A50-SPV3 Demo B30-SPV2 B40-SPV1 C10-SPV1 C20-SPV1 C40-SPV1 D20-SPV1 D40-SPV2 And when SPV3 comes out just delete all of the old maps. So we have two unknown covenant weapons on our hands. Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 17, 2014 at 11:10 PM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 11:14 PM
Msg. 7847 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: austen1000Quote: --- Original message by: Delicon20Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan_234
I remember for C10 SPV2, it had snow instead of the swampy environment. Will you keep the snow or swamp for SPV3. And it may be likely for the CMT Extras should have some new features since some are ingame. Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:08 PM that was a fan remake of spv2, not an actual spv2 beta. the only actual spv2 betas released were a10, a30, b30, b40, and d40. Any other "spv2 beta" was likely uploaded by a fanboy thinking it was the real deal. Most of the unofficial levels uploaded were actually created by ForestKeller in the wake of the mod cancellation, so that everyone would have something to play. He did the entire campaign but never officially uploaded it to Halomaps. The telltale signs of these false betas are the lack of new bsps, which every official beta level had. So no, you probably won't see a snow swamp in C10 The fake betas were no where near as fun as the real ones. B40 was unplayable because of the corrupt BSP, so, i had to resort to the SPV1 release. The fake betas are just lacking. I still debate with myself whether to replace C10-D20 with their SPV1 counterparts. SPV2 A50 had a bit more, but, graphics were corrupt. Fortunatly, theres the SPV3 demo level for that. The A50 and C10 are both fake. The B40 one actually has all the encounters in it and is fully playable, but you will have to use a script ripper to view the names of the scripts and manually switch bsps. I am pretty sure it was playable start to finish at one point, but that was a much older build that was uploaded. Edit: We already have 3 snow missions, 4 if you count D20 but thats so brief and doesn't really offer much new in the environment. So snow isn't something we're going to revisit. Edited by Masters1337 on Aug 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 11:23 PM
Msg. 7848 of 10646
So how about grassland missions, A30 is one of them.
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RabbitFood
Joined: Aug 9, 2014
tripping a path through an internship
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Posted: Aug 17, 2014 11:53 PM
Msg. 7849 of 10646
A30 will most likely stay a grassland, as the CMT team seems to have based the mission with that image in mind. It's not too late to change it now, but I doubt they will. Besides, it'd be removing part of the A30 feel.
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WWLinkMasterX
Joined: Mar 29, 2009
subliminal message.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 12:12 AM
Msg. 7850 of 10646
a10 - Human spaceship a30 - Temperate Mountainscape (mild(?) forerunner interior) a50 - Blizzard/Covenant spaceship b30 - Tropical Island/Forerunner Interior b40 - Forerunner Interior/Snowy Valley --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- c10 - Swamp(?)/Forerunner Interior (please keep the swamp) c20 - Forerunner Interior (else unknown) c40 - Forerunner Interior/Blizzard (else unknown) d20 - Flood infested Covenant spaceship/mild Blizzard (else unknown) d30 - ??? (desert?) d40 - Grassy Plains (scenery only?)/Crashed Human spaceship (else unknown)
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MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010
TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 12:15 AM
Msg. 7851 of 10646
d30 is about master chief and cortanas sexual relations
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Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010
Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 12:29 AM
Msg. 7852 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: WWLinkMasterX mild Blizzard Wouldn't that just be snow? o.O
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RabbitFood
Joined: Aug 9, 2014
tripping a path through an internship
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 12:50 AM
Msg. 7853 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt d30 is about master chief and cortanas sexual relations huehuehue i dont get it
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AntonMK14
Joined: Jul 28, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 08:53 AM
Msg. 7854 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt d30 is about master chief and cortanas sexual relations Well, seeing as Chief and Cortana are stuck together in a Banshee between D20 and D40, it's not out of the question  . I am pretty excited to see what it will actually be.
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 10:11 AM
Msg. 7855 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt d30 is about master chief and cortanas sexual relations Maybe, or it's about finding any marines or something and the flood is there too.
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AntonMK14
Joined: Jul 28, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 11:10 AM
Msg. 7856 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan_234Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt d30 is about master chief and cortanas sexual relations Maybe, or it's about finding any marines or something and the flood is there too. So, what, the marines and flood are participating? Kinky
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The Kingx
Joined: Mar 16, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 11:18 AM
Msg. 7857 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: AntonMK14Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan_234Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt d30 is about master chief and cortanas sexual relations Maybe, or it's about finding any marines or something and the flood is there too. So, what, the marines and flood are participating? Kinky Yo, Spartan 234 has some strange kinks...
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 11:20 AM
Msg. 7858 of 10646
I'm just guessing. Halo CE doesn't have enough flood vs marine (execpt 343 GS). Reason with me, Flood + Marines + Player = Bloodshed, live infections and maybe fighting through hordes of flood. It's like the great infestation.
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xnx
Joined: Feb 12, 2013
h2 marine anims or i detonate the vest
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 11:21 AM
Msg. 7859 of 10646
I'm ok with this.
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RabbitFood
Joined: Aug 9, 2014
tripping a path through an internship
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 11:34 AM
Msg. 7860 of 10646
This would actually be pretty cool, like what happened at Alpha Base in the books, only at the Alpha base-like structure we take over in A30.
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Darkzealotx
Joined: Jun 15, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 11:44 AM
Msg. 7861 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt d30 is about master chief and cortanas sexual relations Painfully unfunny, why do you even try?
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Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010
Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 11:56 AM
Msg. 7862 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: RabbitFood This would actually be pretty cool, like what happened at Alpha Base in the books, only at the Alpha base-like structure we take over in A30. Well Alpha Base in the books was in the desert atop a mesa, if I remember correctly.
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RabbitFood
Joined: Aug 9, 2014
tripping a path through an internship
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 12:24 PM
Msg. 7863 of 10646
Was it? I can't remember. I thought it was in a grassy area, like A30, because the lifepods and stuff landed there. I remember they went through a mesa/canyon thing to get to the Pillar of Autumn and it's cargo, but I don't think their base was there.
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Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010
Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 12:39 PM
Msg. 7864 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: RabbitFood Was it? I can't remember. I thought it was in a grassy area, like A30, because the lifepods and stuff landed there. I remember they went through a mesa/canyon thing to get to the Pillar of Autumn and it's cargo, but I don't think their base was there. Halopedia says: "Alpha Base was the main tactical firebase used during the Battle of Alpha Halo by surviving UNSC forces after landfall on Installation 04. It was located on a small mesa several kilometers down-spin from the crash site of the UNSC Pillar of Autumn." So if it's only a few kilometers away from the crash site, and there's a mesa, I would think that it's in the desert. The page doesn't explicitly say that this is the case, but it's what I've always thought of when I picture Alpha Base, and it seems to fit the description based on their proximity to the Autumn.
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RabbitFood
Joined: Aug 9, 2014
tripping a path through an internship
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 01:22 PM
Msg. 7865 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77Quote: --- Original message by: RabbitFood Was it? I can't remember. I thought it was in a grassy area, like A30, because the lifepods and stuff landed there. I remember they went through a mesa/canyon thing to get to the Pillar of Autumn and it's cargo, but I don't think their base was there. Halopedia says: "Alpha Base was the main tactical firebase used during the Battle of Alpha Halo by surviving UNSC forces after landfall on Installation 04. It was located on a small mesa several kilometers down-spin from the crash site of the UNSC Pillar of Autumn." So if it's only a few kilometers away from the crash site, and there's a mesa, I would think that it's in the desert. The page doesn't explicitly say that this is the case, but it's what I've always thought of when I picture Alpha Base, and it seems to fit the description based on their proximity to the Autumn. Guess you're right then. OOH, question about A30. What's the estimated size of the new base, compared to the old one in the beginning of Combat Evolved? Edited by RabbitFood on Aug 18, 2014 at 01:24 PM
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 01:59 PM
Msg. 7866 of 10646
I think for D30, Master Chief heads to the "real" alpha base to aid the UNSC forces there.
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Dumb AI
Joined: Sep 18, 2011
Dead.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 02:09 PM
Msg. 7867 of 10646
I think helping human forces at that point would not be on the top of Chief's to-do list. It would be up near the top but I think he'd have more important problems to take care of.
Still, this campaign does not follow existing canon anyway, so this could be possible.
Edited by Dumb AI on Aug 18, 2014 at 02:10 PM
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 02:45 PM
Msg. 7868 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: RabbitFoodQuote: --- Original message by: Echo77Quote: --- Original message by: RabbitFood Was it? I can't remember. I thought it was in a grassy area, like A30, because the lifepods and stuff landed there. I remember they went through a mesa/canyon thing to get to the Pillar of Autumn and it's cargo, but I don't think their base was there. Halopedia says: "Alpha Base was the main tactical firebase used during the Battle of Alpha Halo by surviving UNSC forces after landfall on Installation 04. It was located on a small mesa several kilometers down-spin from the crash site of the UNSC Pillar of Autumn." So if it's only a few kilometers away from the crash site, and there's a mesa, I would think that it's in the desert. The page doesn't explicitly say that this is the case, but it's what I've always thought of when I picture Alpha Base, and it seems to fit the description based on their proximity to the Autumn. Guess you're right then. OOH, question about A30. What's the estimated size of the new base, compared to the old one in the beginning of Combat Evolved? Edited by RabbitFood on Aug 18, 2014 at 01:24 PM Nothing is removed, just added. Edited by Masters1337 on Aug 18, 2014 at 03:06 PM
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 03:16 PM
Msg. 7869 of 10646
Hey masters, the alpha base encounter in A30 does it play out as a firefight or kill the covenant and the marines drop in and take over and then you leave.
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Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006
halonaminator's unfortunate idol
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 05:27 PM
Msg. 7870 of 10646
it plays in a wait and see style where you will one day see footage when we are ready or play it for yourself.
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WWLinkMasterX
Joined: Mar 29, 2009
subliminal message.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 05:50 PM
Msg. 7871 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337 it plays in a wait and see style where you will one day see footage when we are ready or play it for yourself.
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austen1000
Joined: Sep 4, 2012
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 05:53 PM
Msg. 7872 of 10646
So, the new version of Open Sauce and UUI will come out with Evolved on the 29th, right?
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Juzo
Joined: Jul 1, 2014
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 06:04 PM
Msg. 7873 of 10646
TSC:E Comes out on the 29th, new version of OS? Not to sure. Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 18, 2014 at 06:06 PM
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austen1000
Joined: Sep 4, 2012
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 06:13 PM
Msg. 7874 of 10646
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan_234
TSC:E Comes out on the 29th, new version of OS? Not to sure. Edited by Spartan_234 on Aug 18, 2014 at 06:06 PM i mean, i know Evolved is coming out on the 29th, i was just wondering about the other 2 things.
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Danger_zone_98
Joined: Nov 26, 2012
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Posted: Aug 18, 2014 06:20 PM
Msg. 7875 of 10646
Nobody knows the release dates for those two things, but the new OS version can't come out after the release of TSC: E because it would be missing some new OS graphical features.
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