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Megatron
Joined: Sep 16, 2011

Working on something good.


Posted: Jun 12, 2014 07:52 PM    Msg. 6686 of 10646       
And perhaps make it look even better than it does in Halo Anniversary? It is possible.


Storm
Joined: Dec 19, 2011

Send memes to www.loganpaul.com/cliffhanger


Posted: Jun 12, 2014 08:11 PM    Msg. 6687 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Flood infections are at the core of what we are doing with the flood. I can say with pretty much 100% certainly everything will be infectable, including Brutes, Grunts, Jackals, Skirmishers, and Sentinels. Hunters and Enforcers are the only thing that aren't currently planned, although we have ideas for what we could do for Hunter Flood forms. Yes we realize the biomass of the hunter worm colony doesn't support normal flood infections, but we have an idea to work around that.



Let me stop you right there. The hunters, as you have said, are worm colonies. The flood see them as food instead of a body to fight in. Unless as mention you're gonna make a tank form that scavenges hunter armour, you're out of luck. Stop breaking Canon.


xnx
Joined: Feb 12, 2013

h2 marine anims or i detonate the vest


Posted: Jun 12, 2014 11:44 PM    Msg. 6688 of 10646       
Who the hell cares about canon if it impedes your ability to create a fun new unit to fight against?


WWLinkMasterX
Joined: Mar 29, 2009

subliminal message.


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 12:10 AM    Msg. 6689 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketch
I agree, now that there is vehicle boosting, maybe there could be some interesting engine overcharge or something akin to cross giant gaps of the PoA!
Just tossing ideas around



How about alternate pathways only accessible with certain vehicles (boost).

It would preserve the traditional way of doing things while still enriching the level.


yeah, that's it. Catering paths to vehicle types. Like, a ghost-only path can have obstacles you have to shoot out of the way.



Maybe something like this:
http://youtu.be/8W69xjsMCgQ?t=4m55s
Edited by WWLinkMasterX on Jun 13, 2014 at 12:22 AM


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 01:36 AM    Msg. 6690 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Storm
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Flood infections are at the core of what we are doing with the flood. I can say with pretty much 100% certainly everything will be infectable, including Brutes, Grunts, Jackals, Skirmishers, and Sentinels. Hunters and Enforcers are the only thing that aren't currently planned, although we have ideas for what we could do for Hunter Flood forms. Yes we realize the biomass of the hunter worm colony doesn't support normal flood infections, but we have an idea to work around that.



Let me stop you right there. The hunters, as you have said, are worm colonies. The flood see them as food instead of a body to fight in. Unless as mention you're gonna make a tank form that scavenges hunter armour, you're out of luck. Stop breaking Canon.


You must have missed the AREN'T CURRENTLY PLANNED PART. There are far more creative ways to make the flood use the hunter armor... we just have a setback with having actors in seats spawning their own actors upon their death. We need to find a work around with regions but it's not something being focused on at this time.

As far as the Maw.... It's likely the ghost will be an option.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jun 13, 2014 at 01:38 AM


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 02:06 AM    Msg. 6691 of 10646       
......mustache ai.... mustache chief...


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 10:50 AM    Msg. 6692 of 10646       
Quote:
As far as the Maw.... It's likely the ghost will be an option.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jun 13, 2014 at 01:38 AM


are you saying that the ghost would be an option to handle the warthog run?

never going to implement mongoose? D:


greg079
Joined: Apr 1, 2013

channeling my inner april fool


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 03:23 PM    Msg. 6693 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor
Moongoosseess

so much motion blur for such a slow vehicle.


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 04:20 PM    Msg. 6694 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor

Quote: --- Original message by: UHWArby
Quote:
As far as the Maw.... It's likely the ghost will be an option.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jun 13, 2014 at 01:38 AM


are you saying that the ghost would be an option to handle the warthog run?

never going to implement mongoose? D:
Moongoosseess are overrated.
http://i60.tinypic.com/25qeom9.jpg This is the weirdest thing I've ever photoshopped.
Edited by The Doctor on Jun 13, 2014 at 03:27 PM


I think it would be more fun if it were implemented


General_101
Joined: Dec 23, 2013

Apparently all I post is spam.


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 04:32 PM    Msg. 6695 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: UHWArby
Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor

Quote: --- Original message by: UHWArby
Quote:
As far as the Maw.... It's likely the ghost will be an option.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jun 13, 2014 at 01:38 AM


are you saying that the ghost would be an option to handle the warthog run?

never going to implement mongoose? D:
Moongoosseess are overrated.
http://i60.tinypic.com/25qeom9.jpg This is the weirdest thing I've ever photoshopped.
Edited by The Doctor on Jun 13, 2014 at 03:27 PM


I think it would be more fun if it were implemented

Aren't there plenty of things that can flip you over making you lose time?


Megatron
Joined: Sep 16, 2011

Working on something good.


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 04:48 PM    Msg. 6696 of 10646       
Also, I noticed that on the SPV2 version, there was a Banshee that could be used that was sitting on the area where the Spirit drops off additional Covenant troops. I think that should be replaced by something else, because a Banshee kinda takes the fun out of the final run.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 06:54 PM    Msg. 6697 of 10646       
It wasn't ever intended to be final, just a replacement for the c_dropship that occupies more tagspace than it was worth.

Also I've always hated the mongoose, it'll never be in anything I work on.


General_101
Joined: Dec 23, 2013

Apparently all I post is spam.


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 07:05 PM    Msg. 6698 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
It wasn't ever intended to be final, just a replacement for the c_dropship that occupies more tagspace than it was worth.

Also I've always hated the mongoose, it'll never be in anything I work on.

If I draw a funny picture of Microsoft making out with Halo will you change your mind?


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 07:09 PM    Msg. 6699 of 10646       
If we're voting on halo 3 vehicles, then I'd rather drive a chopper than a mongoose.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 07:17 PM    Msg. 6700 of 10646       
AFAIK, no one has sucessfully done a chopper in CE. I know CV from Zteam had one ingame, but it was never tested with AI.


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 07:27 PM    Msg. 6701 of 10646       
but that is because they never changed the handling to the mongoose in CE, and that vehicle it is useful for escapes fast

as for example:

warthog run halo 3
or at the level pillar of autumn halo reach

and the vehicle is how to manage a ghost but more like a warthog


Delicon20
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

Still here. Still loves bacon


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 07:35 PM    Msg. 6702 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
AFAIK, no one has sucessfully done a chopper in CE. I know CV from Zteam had one ingame, but it was never tested with AI.


slap happy I think it was did a pretty good brute chopper, but I don't think it was tested with ai either.

What about a chopper-esque hoverbike that was lower to the ground, faster, and harder to strafe with or turn on a dime than a ghost? Everything other aspect would be the same as a chopper, and it could still devastate objects on impact like a chopper, but it would be easier for ai to control than a one wheeled vehicle. I imagine this would be a bit more plausible for implementation?



Edited by Delicon20 on Jun 13, 2014 at 07:36 PM


EtchyaSketch
Joined: Apr 11, 2014

S P I N


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 07:39 PM    Msg. 6703 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: UHWArby
but that is because they never changed the handling to the mongoose in CE, and that vehicle it is useful for escapes fast

as for example:

warthog run halo 3
or at the level pillar of autumn halo reach

and the vehicle is how to manage a ghost but more like a warthog

The thing is the mongoose is a watered down warthog, and an less effective Ghost.

You said your self "the vehicle is how to manage a ghost but more like a warthog"
Which I'm guessing says "It handles like a Ghost but it's a human vehicle" Which destroys any point you could have raised because it means there is already an effective alternative, and thus any work put into it would be a waste of dev time.

"vehicle it is useful for escapes fast"?
Warthogs are faster sooo, again your point is mute.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 08:12 PM    Msg. 6704 of 10646       
@Delicon: there is still some other issues with that, but we've considered a custom brute vehicle before as well. Still nothing though. The Shadow from Lumoria was actually planned to be redone as a CMT vehicle and included in the mod, but it's been dropped as its less interesting than the ghost and wraith to fight, and less fun than the hogs to use. For now there isn't any plan for any new Covie vehicles.

@EtchyaSketch: Pretty much spot on there. The goose IMO has always been shoehorned into the campaign, in h3 it was more frustrating to use than anything else, and a Warthog is preferable in almost all situations. Sure the goose has rockets on the back, but we have a Rocket Hog... which is more awesome. In Reach the whole Mongoose run in POA would have been more fun and interesting in a hog as well.... It's really a vehicle shoehorned into a small niche in MP. Even for MP, I wouldn't be sad to see it go even though I know it has it's fans.


Megatron
Joined: Sep 16, 2011

Working on something good.


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 09:44 PM    Msg. 6705 of 10646       
The mongoose was an extreme liability in tight spots during the levels it was featured in. Especially during the last mission in Halo 3.


ziegler1122
Joined: Apr 1, 2014


Posted: Jun 13, 2014 10:33 PM    Msg. 6706 of 10646       
the chopper from With Whiteness is pretty nice


roviet1337
Joined: Feb 6, 2011

Lord of Admirals


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 01:02 AM    Msg. 6707 of 10646       
so i been playing the destiny alpha, and i was wondering if there was anything in there that you guys wanted to take advantage of gameplay wise? as in implementing things from that into your mod


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 01:21 AM    Msg. 6708 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: roviet1337
so i been playing the destiny alpha, and i was wondering if there was anything in there that you guys wanted to take advantage of gameplay wise? as in implementing things from that into your mod


Not cmt or anything but I think they can handle everything themselves. Plus they probably won't draw inspiration from Destiny
Edited by MatthewDratt on Jun 14, 2014 at 01:22 AM


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 02:10 AM    Msg. 6709 of 10646       
Pretty much all I heard from the Destiny Alpha is pretty negative, and I never found the game appealing to begin in the first place. Bungie has talented art teams, but I've always felt most of their success is from piggybacking off the accidental genius of H1. I'll have the Destiny beta next month though.

We incorporate anything we like that we see, there's a healthy amount of Gears and Aliens influence in Pt2 of the campaign. What types of things were you thinking we'd want to incorporate from Destiny?


Stevedoggen
Joined: Jan 14, 2013

#Byf4Lyf


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 02:21 AM    Msg. 6710 of 10646       
That's weird, Masters, because all I hear is people who play it giving it positive reviews and a bunch of people who havent played it yet saying it looks bad even though they haven't tried it yet. :S

Still though, I agree, what from Destiny would even fit or make sense in Halo?


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 02:27 AM    Msg. 6711 of 10646       
What I hear from Destiny is that is tries to be a Borderlands clone without the humor and therefor kinda boring and lackluster. I really havent heard anything positive... most positive thing is that it apparently feels like "Halo on PS4."


Stevedoggen
Joined: Jan 14, 2013

#Byf4Lyf


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 02:59 AM    Msg. 6712 of 10646       
I can understand that MatthewDratt, since it's a Bungie game, which have pretty much been heavy in lore and light in humor, if any, most of the time anyway. I suppose we should just wait till we try it ourselves.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 03:09 AM    Msg. 6713 of 10646       
I'd say the opposite really. The lore aside from H1 and H2 has always been minimal, with outside material really fleshing out the universe. The humor on the other hand, just ruins any seriousness of the game. It's hard to take the game serious when the AI are always wisecracking.


rcghalohell
Joined: Feb 25, 2009

I can jump?Weeeee (pop!) (No1 heard from it again)


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 10:12 AM    Msg. 6714 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
@Delicon: there is still some other issues with that, but we've considered a custom brute vehicle before as well. Still nothing though. The Shadow from Lumoria was actually planned to be redone as a CMT vehicle and included in the mod, but it's been dropped as its less interesting than the ghost and wraith to fight, and less fun than the hogs to use. For now there isn't any plan for any new Covie vehicles.

@EtchyaSketch: Pretty much spot on there. The goose IMO has always been shoehorned into the campaign, in h3 it was more frustrating to use than anything else, and a Warthog is preferable in almost all situations. Sure the goose has rockets on the back, but we have a Rocket Hog... which is more awesome. In Reach the whole Mongoose run in POA would have been more fun and interesting in a hog as well.... It's really a vehicle shoehorned into a small niche in MP. Even for MP, I wouldn't be sad to see it go even though I know it has it's fans.


Lol rocket hog beats all, splosions for the win

Should make a team called "Micheal bay cmt"
Edited by rcghalohell on Jun 14, 2014 at 10:19 AM


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 02:10 PM    Msg. 6715 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: EtchyaSketch
Quote: --- Original message by: UHWArby
but that is because they never changed the handling to the mongoose in CE, and that vehicle it is useful for escapes fast

as for example:

warthog run halo 3
or at the level pillar of autumn halo reach

and the vehicle is how to manage a ghost but more like a warthog

The thing is the mongoose is a watered down warthog, and an less effective Ghost.

You said your self "the vehicle is how to manage a ghost but more like a warthog"
Which I'm guessing says "It handles like a Ghost but it's a human vehicle" Which destroys any point you could have raised because it means there is already an effective alternative, and thus any work put into it would be a waste of dev time.

"vehicle it is useful for escapes fast"?
Warthogs are faster sooo, again your point is mute.


only wanted implemented it, so in the end you have to decide between various vehicles

despite the fact that the warthog is the most fast

But what if you want to drive a ghost or a chopper or even a wraith? It would be very interesting to finish the CMT SPV3 with some fun


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 04:26 PM    Msg. 6716 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: UHWArby
But what if you want to drive a ghost or a chopper or even a wraith? It would be very interesting to finish the CMT SPV3 with some fun

cheat_all_vehicles?


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 05:49 PM    Msg. 6717 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor
Quote: --- Original message by: Darkzealotx
  
This changed my life.


1000/10


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 06:43 PM    Msg. 6718 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: Darkzealotx
CMT IS A COMPLETE FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CMT RIPS. ALL THEY DO IS RIP. RIP STUFF FROM BUNGIE'S GAME (CMT, HDOAN, ZTEAM). AND YOU SAY NOT TO RIP? YOU SAY YOU CLAIM IT AS YOUR OWN?! YOU JUST PROVED IT ALL WRONG -- YOU RIPPED FROM SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH PROVES YOU WANT THEM TO BE UNPROTECTED. AND YOU STOLE, YOU STOLE THE MODEL, AND THE TEXTURES.


do you have evidence?


sos
Joined: Aug 8, 2008

Getting my legal team, brb


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 06:46 PM    Msg. 6719 of 10646       

And so it begins.


Edit: Removed 'Spam quote'
Edited by sos on Jun 14, 2014 at 06:47 PM


UHWArby
Joined: Jul 2, 2013

PIPO vive


Posted: Jun 14, 2014 06:49 PM    Msg. 6720 of 10646       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Doctor
Quote: --- Original message by: UHWArby
Quote: --- Original message by: Darkzealotx
CMT IS A COMPLETE FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CMT RIPS. ALL THEY DO IS RIP. RIP STUFF FROM BUNGIE'S GAME (CMT, HDOAN, ZTEAM). AND YOU SAY NOT TO RIP? YOU SAY YOU CLAIM IT AS YOUR OWN?! YOU JUST PROVED IT ALL WRONG -- YOU RIPPED FROM SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH PROVES YOU WANT THEM TO BE UNPROTECTED. AND YOU STOLE, YOU STOLE THE MODEL, AND THE TEXTURES.


do you have evidence?
Evidence? All he needs is DDOS and sperm in his mouth.


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