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since you seem to be so obsessed with my personal life, I was not kicked out. I moved on my own out to pursue better education and career opportunities on the other side of the country

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o no i'm a big bad trololol

I could imagine gmod since it's full of 12 year olds just like halo, but cryengine, fallout and unreal? mind pointing me in the direction of some of this stuff you're talking about?

the most you'll see is content ported. spartans have been in unreal since ut2004, and they have always been called spartans, they have never been given the name of some canonical character in unreal. you'll never see a spartan named "Iron Faction Soldier." just like how the sun krall in gmod are called sun krall, and not something like "unknown zen creature"

probably looked like an elite to you because halo aliens are so freaking generic they look like everything else out there.

what gets to me is you think the fact that it's a rip is the reason I disagree with you. a rip. from unreal. open sourced mods. yeah, no. it's the fact that you're modifying this guys work and not appreciating it for what it is.

you say "calling it an elite" is being creative and imaginative.

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let me ask you, was it any more creative or imaginative than the person who originally designed the models?

let me put this into perspective for you. some random member of the unreal community took this concept from the first game,

and created this hi-def character (something this community would never be able to produce in a million years).



and you're like "hey let's modify this guy's work and call it something else and not give this guy any props or respect at all!" despite the fact that the guy's name is planted all over his images

proud of yourself?
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Jan 23, 2011 at 07:42 PM

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Uh?

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http://www.moddb.com/mods/halout-3
http://www.moddb.com/mods/crylo1

I'll give you two examples. I'm lad you acknowledge Gmod's craziness, but overall your posts are only aimed at discrediting the Halomaps community. You offer nothing constructively.

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Uh what? First off, look at the picture I left there and tell me it doesn't look like an Elite. Second, I never said the creator of the model wouldn't be credited. I love how you draw random false facts out of thin air to try and justify/heighten yourself. And on an internet forum too.

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And this community has already created items of that caliber. I seriously wonder why you insist on arguing with false facts, besides your being a mediocre troll.

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I could care less which game it's from; this is a non-profit game. Like it honestly matters.

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In comparison the Halo CE community hasn't done much in terms of models, etc, and barely any original content despite member's protests of how they need more of the former.

The discrediting of work done by other communities, such as this high-poly model, is disrepectful as having the nerve to take piece of work that had time and effort put into it, labeling it as one's own, and then accepting name suggestions for it.

Personally I don't think that Krall thing resembles an Elite at all, physiologically wise.

That's what I gathered from his posts, and to me are valid.

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No, what he's saying is "This community sucks compared to this one".
"Oh Look at these in game player biped models from here!"
"Then look at this high definition pre-rendered model that someone who's probably a professional made! God this community sucks more!"

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this community has already created items of that caliber.
Edited by DarkHalo003 on Jan 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

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it's surprising how many people worship their precious soil, isn't it?

Quote: FYI, you're on the halo forum, and dissing halo or our abilities as a community helps nobody and serves no purpose. I honestly don't think you know that.

Quote: okay, have a seat. you don't seem to be capable of understanding the complexity of the discussion. I made the statements I did in response to this statement, obviously made to imply the halo community is up to par with unreal

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SHUN THE NONBELIEVER!

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this isn't a very large community in terms of members

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as rare as a three leafed clover in Australia

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Now about the whole CE vs. UT thing is still ridiculous, and are not comparable in the first place, there is little work in the CE community that is up to par, because the CE engine makes it impossible for it to be... It would seem to be obvious. The argument over that point is silly, just because it is impossible for in-game assets to be on the same level. That was my point.

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If you think Halo's modding tools are horrible and clunky then you really must have no decent understanding of them.

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Hey guys, what do you say, let's reskin this into a Flood Punisher Form!

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Too bad I won't buy that game; I refuse to for at least another year, when it SHOULD have come out.

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SHUN! You're spamming this biped thread with weapons!

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LOL

you still fail to understand I was responding to one person. you seem to think I'm deliberately going off topic in an attempt to compare CE to UT and preach the engine's superiority to everybody here, when you fail to realize everything that I posted was a valid response to a single person. you don't seem to understand that the origin of this conversation was brought on by someone bringing a ut3 model into halo.

I figured you would have read this earlier..



but you seem to have ignored it.

everything I have posted about unreal has been a response to people talking about unreal. you're telling me I'm not allowed to respond to people?

funny, when I think about it. someone mentions unreal, eveyone goes "HALO IS SO MUCH BETTER," and now that I've engaged in discussion and brought up valid points, that unreal's community is comprised of much more talented individuals, everybody's like "OKAY WE GET YOUR OPINION, LEAVE US ALONE YOU BIG MEANIE, YOU OFF TOPIC TROLL, STAY ON TOPIC OR ELSE"

is that really how people here deal with differences of opinions? hostile agression first, then playing the victim when proven wrong? is that something to be proud of?

You realize that we're not saying Halo is better and nor are we rejecting your opinion. The way you post in such an incendiary manner is why we're talking back. I'm saying this community HAS created content on the caliber of what you have posted - just not collectively as a many other communities seem to. Thirdly, most people working on UDK do for a job/prohobby. Most of the people here are still young teenagers. Please understand that.

Now in any forum, please understand that all conversations in a thread are plausibly open to any contributors willing to take their own views and write them in. With that said, it doesn't matter who you think your comment is only directed at: other users can stand in and agree with anyone or disagree with anyone. He turned an AB conversation into an ABA because he is disagreeing with you while maintaining the same discussion that we are having.


This post defeats every form of evidence you've used so far to heighten yourself. Why? Because when you model for the UDK, you MUST do it a certain way and it's a lot different when it's in the engine. It's dynamic engine is 100x better than CE's, therefore anything ingame will automatically look better. In other words, don't poke fun at pre-rendered material; to make pre-rendered look as good outside of an engine can be just as difficult as making it look as good inside the engine.

And use your head. If we give credit, then obviously the creator has been credited. This would entail stating the original model's purpose and title. The way the Thrall looks it could be convincingly an Elite in a Halo mod of any kind. UDK or HCE. Why do you honestly infer that I meant to rip off someone else's content as something else? I'm saying that as a heavily-armored Elite it could be called something intimidating like the Elite Executioner.

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Of course it's not as expansive as the UEK.

obviously

But if you know how to use it, the HEK can do some very cool things.

like battle rifles, sniper rifles, magnums and all sorts of awesome stuff like that right? it's apparently really good for remaking halo!

I also never said that it's coding was "optimised" to current standards.

because I implied you said it did right

I really don't know what you're trying to accomplish here.

simply giving responses to people who want answers from my ;)

It's a "battle" you cannot win.

oh hoh now I'm trying to win something! boy I tell you what, there's nothing better to me than sipping a beer after a nice, big, fat e-victory. over the internet. god, I'm so proud of myself when I win e-victories

You fail to use simple HEK tools

despite the fact that you don't know what I've done with the tools, and the fact that I'd given you a run-down of how the tools work I clearly don't know how to use the them

so you go on ranting about how UEK is so much better.

well, you didn't seem to understand why I thought Halo was so clunky and horrible. I guess explaining in order to inform and enlighten myself means I'm ranting. since we're throwing around judgement here, to me it just sounds like you don't want to feel like you're using an inferior, dead engine because you don't have the necessary skills to create impressive content on engines that actually require programming and scripting knowledge ;)

Cool story bro.

and they all lived happily ever after

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This post defeats every form of evidence you've used so far to heighten yourself. Why? Because when you model for the UDK, you MUST do it a certain way and it's a lot different when it's in the engine. It's dynamic engine is 100x better than CE's, therefore anything ingame will automatically look better. In other words, don't poke fun at pre-rendered material; to make pre-rendered look as good outside of an engine can be just as difficult as making it look as good inside the engine.

this entire statement is invalidated by any weapon/player model content created in the unreal tournament 2004 engine.


better pic (can't hotlink) http://www.utzone.de/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=940&rating=9.3

And use your head. If we give credit, then obviously the creator has been credited. This would entail stating the original model's purpose and title. The way the Thrall looks it could be convincingly an Elite in a Halo mod of any kind. UDK or HCE. Why do you honestly infer that I meant to rip off someone else's content as something else? I'm saying that as a heavily-armored Elite it could be called something intimidating like the Elite Executioner.

you've apparently not read a single thing I've written concerning this subject. therefore, you get no proper response because I'd just be repeating myself