Position the gun first, then worry about hand placement. That's what I do, it yields decent results.

Like, imagine if this were an FPS that showed no hand models (IE Quake III or UT2004), and get it to look decent. Theeeen place the arms and hands.

I'd suggest setting up IKs. In fact, they're pretty much necessary. CAD's IK setup is a decent quick way to do it.
Edited by Marka Haiyana on Mar 25, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Adding on to that, make sure you bend both elbows before you use the script or else it won't work right. At least for me it didn't.

I'm using gmax here. It does have one IK solver but I don't really know how to use it.



EDIT:
It decided to try again from scratch after tweaking the model slightly.

Theres my second attempt. Please ignore the arms, as I am just trying to get the weapon placement perfect.
http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m421/_Ro0ster_/Capture-35.png

What's good and what's bad about this version?
Edited by Ro0ster on Mar 26, 2010 at 07:29 PM

its aiming to low. rotate the gun up a bit, or move it up a bit.

It's not just that. The sight is taking up a massive amount of space and draws your attention away from the rest of the gun. I'd hate to walk around with that constantly in my case.

The gun is extremely centered horizontally, which I can imagine will result in some pretty awkward positioning of the left hand. I would move it up, to the right, and out. (Obviosuly this would take some fine-tuning). Then I'd position the hands/arms and re-position the gun to compensate for any problems the hands cause. This may just be a result of experience, but I've found that there's generally a point where origins look "right", and you can tell that they're right. Sometimes it takes some serious experimentation; especially if the gun has a lot of really "distracting" parts you may need to get creative to balance them out.

And, here's the conclusion of the Flamethrower animating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP1Dr_u8X6Q

Probably going to take a break from these for a few days now as I've got a full week away from my computer ahead of me, but there might be another one that squeezes in this weekend.
Edited by teh lag on Mar 26, 2010 at 10:14 PM

I just tried two new ones. Tell me what you think, as I want to get these origins right before I actually start animating.

http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m421/_Ro0ster_/Capture-36.png


http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m421/_Ro0ster_/Capture-37.png

Both look okay by my standards. Roll with whichever is easier to position FP arms for, I guess.

Tad boxy, but not bad from what I can see...

Ro0ster, how I normally do my origins is I put the gun in a somewhat good position, do the hands, and THEN move the gun around even more until it looks right. I almost never have it in the exactly right spot I want when just placing the gun.

I watched that video last night Lag. Awsome stuff. It really makes me want to animate something but then I would just stop halfway through doing origins...

Alright thanks, I'll try that.

I do that.
I can't animate for anything.. But I make pretty cool origins :P

Here are some origins I made for the H3 ODST SMG on this website.
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=4750





Download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MLVJHJEH
Edited by Corvette19 on Mar 27, 2010 at 02:17 PM

Yes, I know about the clipping errors etc. I like these the way they are. I'm probably not going to ever animate them, so do what you want.
Edited by Corvette19 on Mar 27, 2010 at 02:18 PM

Reminds me of the CMT SPV1 silenced SMG.

@tucker: ugly, ugly origins. so huge and makes the model look more boxy than it already is.
move further away, to the right, and down, then rotate it to face the middle of screen

If you were holding the pistol next to your cheek , that might be what it looks like.

Move it down

waaaaaaaaay down

I wouldn't say move it down, just make it less obstructive

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less obstructive

ewww the pistol looks smashed cant yo make it tilt to the left?

Looks like a price scanner from this angle.

i gotta animate this.
rig the fp.
then ill release all my mw2 and cod 4 stuff :D

This is killing me on the inside.

The position of the gun is fine at the moment, it's the pistol model. It sucks monkey balls. it is way too wide.

The problem with descriptions like this is that they lack perspective. If you were the monkey you would probably think it is a good thing.

ew, 3p model. fail.

It isn't the 3p model. It's the fp model surprisingly. Look how bad it was back then...

so does it look good? or not.... i gotta fix some errors but im almost done with that. wish I could animate good :[

Also, why is he he holding the M16 where the magazine is.

CoD4 M4A1 FP:


CoD4 M16A4 FP:

Are you deaf and ignorant? GO look at the grenade launcher m16 model, it has a different barrel you retard.

They all have different attachments/modeling. Also if the m16 grenade launcher he showed was the 3p. It would be basically a box. Besides you know IW wouldn't model a cylinder in a 3p model for the sides.

because I ripped it from the game..... i hid the magazine because someone gave me the fp arms and they were positioned like that.... so ya. also that m16 doesnt look cod 4 ish.... unless you ripped it without noob toob.

why would you rip it with a grenade launcher.

because I just got call of duty. and Im doing a noob toob version and a regular. but i forgot about the difrencess

Be sure to add smoothing groups to that if you get the chance, it'll make all the edges around the round parts much less noticeable.

It is more or less a crude descriptive way of saying it looks bad. We are all human yes? So no problem with the perspective :)

That has not yet been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

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