i have new origins, will be uploaded once imageshack stops being gay :C EDIT: to hell with imageshack ill just use imagehosting.com :/



better? worse?

Edited by halo3n00b on Sep 21, 2009 at 04:09 PM

ok srsly hao teh f*ck do you do this?!?!?!?

Its called 3ds max.

Its still not aiming at the center, rotate it left a bit, or move it left and back.

*makes firing animation*
Edited by halo3n00b on Sep 21, 2009 at 05:47 PM

So? The illusion isnt pointing towards the center in the FP view.

Uh, no. You didn't seem to understand what I was saying. Whatever, you don't have much an idea what you're talking about anyway.

The origin is fine for someone who hasn't been animating that long yet. I would go into longer details on other things you may learn down the road, but I won't and I'll just leave it at what I have.

Here's a little handy thing you should know though: Don't accept critique from non-animators, or people who aren't giving much reason/valid points behind what they're saying. Truth be told, most of the time they have no idea what they're talking about.

Hah thats funny.

its funny because its true
:U

Well I animate vehicles :U

vehicles arnt first person weapons
:U

Its still animations that follow the same guidelines
:U

Hurr I don't see the illusion there it's not fooling me :/
I mean when I look at that I don't think I'm seeing it point at the center.

:U
Edited by OMGWTHBBQHAXZORZ XD on Sep 21, 2009 at 07:16 PM

technical guidelines. first person animations are so much more complicated than vehicles.
:U

E: wow "omgwtfbbq" thats definitely pointing at the center.
Edited by Donut on Sep 21, 2009 at 07:19 PM

Vehicles have more moving parts

xU

:U
sorry, just wanted to fit in.
Edited by CorruptedHalo on Sep 21, 2009 at 07:23 PM

uh, no they dont. try telling an fp animator that.
:U

._.

It's days like these that make me loose hope in humanity.

LOL
Edited by ODX on Sep 21, 2009 at 07:34 PM

:Y

Mine wins. XD

am i the only one who wont post with that weird face thing? anyway also crit the cod4 fp woodland camo skin pl0x

yeah idk what happened there. i was stating what should be a blatantly obvious point and using the face to put more emphasis on it

nvm
Edited by Advancebo on Sep 21, 2009 at 08:17 PM

Stop arguing. You are wrong from every angle.

Wrong.

There is so much more art to FP animating or character animating than vehicle animating.

offtopic i know but do you have any idea how much fun it is to pretend your tuba is a flamethrower or minigun?

cos i play a concert tuba and i know
Edited by MissingSpartan7 on Sep 22, 2009 at 07:16 AM

You know how much fun it is to remove the bottom drum skin from your floor tom (a drum) , ask a moron to put his head in it , and drum it like crazy?
On-topic , ODST digitalcamo pl0x?

Even my little sister can rotate wheels and whatever basic movements solid blocks require,

FP animations on the other hand, i respect fp animators that do their job well like ODX, because it requires a certain feeling to get it right. There is so much more to it than gripping fingers so it doesn't clip...

about origins... i always thought using a straight view moved to the right would look best, because irl your weapon is always like that, against your shoulder, you only move your head when using iron sights/scopes, not the alignment of your gun



I don't animate fp weapons usually, but my interpretation would be that all weapons should be against the shoulder, close

lastly, aiming at a center depends on how far your center is, so there is no "correct" corner the gun should point at

cruddy beginners method was: make iron sights, place cam at a higher place where it looks good, move whole scene to center again: voila origins.
well that's what i used to do, now i got slaves who animate =D


sleeves are too bright, the point of camo was that you were less distinquished from the enviroment.
Edited by BeachParty clan on Sep 22, 2009 at 11:52 AM

thats only because i put in like 10 target lights :C

The thing about fp animations is that it really doesnt matter where the gun is located. All that matters is that it looks good. The motions need to be natural and interesting to look at for the player, while not blocking the screen too much (this is the least important factor though to be honest) and not being particularly distracting. Functional correctness is important as well, while not vital.

For example, it is very irritating in games to have rifle reloads that don't involve chambering the round in the case that the rifle is empty. This is because real rifles don't chamber the round themselves if they are fired until empty (in most cases). However, most animators will include a cocking of the slide in pistol reload animations, though it isn't necessary in (many) real pistols. If there is a round in the chamber, you obviously don't need to chamber a round, but if the chamber is empty, the slide will remain open, and will close automatically upon inserting a new magazine.

TLDR

• When fired until empty most rifles don't automatically chamber a round upon inserting a new magazine, and so the bolt must be pulled


• When fired until empty most pistols will automatically chamber the round upon inserting a new magazine, and so the slide does not need to be pulled. It is only necessary to pull the slide of a pistol when the slide is closed and the chamber is empty.

The point is, FP animators often will include a bolt pull or a slide pull even when it isn't completely necessary, because it is interesting to look at.


/lesson in FP animating
Edited by ICEE on Sep 23, 2009 at 01:10 AM

i really hope you guys all realize that nobody would ever hold any gun the way they are shown in fp animations. in a real world situation you wouldnt even see the rifle unless youre looking down the sights

Um, yea you would, I got a shotgun, when ever I hold it, it's in between my shoulder and my chest. The only difference with the position is when you look down the sights. If you were to rest it, it would be lowered, but the point is, you can still see it, you have peripheral vision right?

ew
Edited by halo3n00b on Oct 20, 2009 at 02:14 PM

Converted ODST Silenced Pistol to normal Halo 3 one...

1822 Triangles.

seems odd somehow

The back end of the slide looks smushed to me.

you missed the point completely. you guys are really good at that. what im saying is that critiquing a first person animation origin based on how you would hold a weapon in real life is just stupid.