This exactly^
Just look at some of the reloads in tf2. Especially the pistol. Who reloads like that?
Nobody, they just put it in because it's visually interesting.

Correct. Also, in cases like tf2, the animations (including first person, but more importantly the third person character animations) have to match the character's personality. They definitely managed that very well

The pistol looks good, but I might just be easily excited (not that way!)

I assume you use the same logic when you model? Look, it's cool if it looks like that, but seriously, when you got a weapon, you don't do any fancy crap, you fire and reload. Do it either way, but it's more logical to do it my way. If you want it realistic, follow my way, but if you want a stupid looking animation, go ahead.

How well do you do on reading comprehension tests? What donut is trying to say is that you dont actually hold a rifle that way when your not firing it or lining up a shot. You hold it downward like this

for several reasons. One of them being that your arms will get tired if you hold it outward for extended amounts of time. The reason you don't set origins up that way is because it would look bad, and because you want to be able to fire the weapon at any given time without having to situate the gun.

Forget it, apparently I'm a dumbass who doesn't know a single thing about anything anymore, because pricks like you guys refuse to understand.

All you're opening statements are harsh and are meant to hurt, seriously, you should actually read what you say for once.

youre bad at reading. go away

oh im so sorry i tried to inform you so youre not running around spreading your misconceptions. if youre that hurt, then i dont think youre suited for giving criticism at all.
i assume you know what this is. use it now please.
Edited by Donut on Sep 25, 2009 at 07:00 PM

well gawsh apparently!

I agree, But I can't be arsed unwrap it again to adjust. I might do though.

The actual position of the gun is passable, maybe move it back a bit, but fingers and everything else is absolutely horrid. Maybe I'll make a step-by-step thread on how to make origins sometime when I'm bored.

Right arm looks too stiff, and doesn't give enough room for movement. Move it forward a bit more.

Left arm shouldn't be supporting on the handle of the gun. If it was he would be holding the gun much higher (not to mention the other way looks better)

Rather it should be wrapping around the right hand.

Good?

Nice work Gamma, how ya been btw?

I still say that the left hand should rap around the right

It takes longer to do it that way, especially for reload animations, as the left hand has to return to that position.

Unwrapped. 1940 triangles.

It isn't exactly that hard to do, and one of the most important aspects of animating is making origins. I spend about 20 minutes average making the origins for my weapons, and I'm sure you know how those turn out.

Like this:


Of course, this is the CoD4 rig and not the Halo 1 rig. In terms of the Halo 1 rig, here's one I made with the left hand wrapping around the gun as well:


In reload animations, it really isn't that hard to make it go back to origin. Hell, it even helps with some stylizing. If you want to see the [crappy] reload animations I made for both, just Xfire me.
Edited by ODX on Sep 27, 2009 at 07:47 PM

I see what you mean. I prefer having the left hand under the gun, as it's easier for me to place for certain animations.

I wouldnt say either way is superior.

I have to say, that personally with the left rapped around looks nicer to me

mc can hold and fire 2 smgs at the same time but he cant hold a pistol with 1 hand :C

He holds an smg with 2 hands also.

i no rite he should hold it with 1 hand

When they made the M7 im pretty sure it was supposed to be a side arm/a civil defence weapon, a spartan chew toy.

are you guys familiar with the weaver stance?

Yup

excellent, at least one person knows what im talking about. apply the idea of the weaver stance to the hand positioning and implied force of a handgun animation.

made it in paint(obviously) and its only image editor that can run on current pc until main get new 1kw psu... i dont want to to ehar any " zomgwtfbbq its paint its horrible cause ..blah blah blah..." i want to hear real crit, and yes i know i forgot the damn trigger i always forget, so sue me...lol
Edited by Geared on Sep 29, 2009 at 05:31 PM

It looks like an uzi with a long clip and a laser sight.

MAC10:

UZI:


everyone confuses the two but they only look similar...looolz
adn silencer in image is too short lolz.... mucho lolz! i dunno im tired, lol
Edited by Geared on Sep 29, 2009 at 07:42 PM

I understand the difference and must say mac-10 and 11s look cooler

A member of a Crysis modding team I am in has textured my shotgun, it looks awesome.


Hopfully he will send it to me and allow me to use the texture. Smoothing has been taken of btw.
Credit to BuLL
http://tekjunkies.freeforums.org/member/BuLL/

I need a towel.

The barrel should be brighter than the grip parts. And why is there an ejection port on the left side of the gun?

And eww, halo 2 green sights.
Edited by Advancebo on Sep 29, 2009 at 09:32 PM