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Author	Topic: Weapons - Works in Process thread [WIP] (12975 messages, Page 317 of 371)
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SilentJacket Joined: Jun 9, 2012 -Did I miss something?-	Posted: Dec 7, 2012 06:11 PM Msg. 11061 of 12975 I made some weapon designs, anyone want to model them?

killzone64 Joined: Jun 9, 2010 sometimes i miss the chaos occasionally	Posted: Dec 7, 2012 06:21 PM Msg. 11062 of 12975 ohh if i wasn't so busy with work for my modeling class, wait actually i may take a look at that especially that large one on the second page (i'm assuming its a pistol). i may start on it after i finish porting the reach marines. that is if life doesn't get in the way.

LegionofShadows Joined: Jul 10, 2011 The Red Pill is strong in this one.	Posted: Dec 8, 2012 01:08 AM Msg. 11063 of 12975 Boltshot? That reminds me of a boltshot. I don't know, it's just the shape... What kind of weapons would they be? Make a pistol-sized grenade launcher, and I love you. Make it a third weapon, and I kiss you.

SilentJacket Joined: Jun 9, 2012 -Did I miss something?-	Posted: Dec 8, 2012 01:35 AM Msg. 11064 of 12975 oddly enough, I made these sketches back in 2011, but just now scanned them one of those guns is an automatic grenade launcher (it's in the first pic) If you want, I can do some better drawn breakdowns of the weapons that interest you, just circle the ones you like. Edited by SilentJacket on Dec 8, 2012 at 01:45 AM

Echo77 Joined: Jul 20, 2010 Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.	Posted: Dec 8, 2012 07:05 AM Msg. 11065 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: LegionofShadows What kind of weapons would they be? Make a pistol-sized grenade launcher, and I love you. Here's a concept from the canceled Halo MMORPG: a sawn-off Brute Shot.

master noob Joined: Aug 10, 2012 343Industries Advocate	Posted: Dec 9, 2012 02:59 PM Msg. 11066 of 12975 if you need help baking normals, send the model my way. other than that, if the mesh is made up of separate parts, put space between the different UV groups and bake the normals per part. also, you are better off adding pre-baked normals for the finite details such as those nail holes and that zig-zag line; that way the smoothing groups stay relatively intact without ugly wrinkles.

master noob Joined: Aug 10, 2012 343Industries Advocate	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 01:55 AM Msg. 11067 of 12975 lol needler for those of you who can't see a needler in this; still a heavy WIP @silentjacket; those guns look pretty cool, but they look like they would be uncomfortable to hold in human hands. try drawing dots where fingers would go on the handle and seeing if replicating that position is ungainly for a gun. no one wants to have their hand mutilated for military purposes. Edited by master noob on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:57 AM Edited by master noob on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:59 AM

SilentJacket Joined: Jun 9, 2012 -Did I miss something?-	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 02:00 AM Msg. 11068 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: master noob lol needler http://i.imgur.com/M5U9R.jpg http://i.imgur.com/m7yiY.jpg for those of you who can't see a needler in this; http://i.imgur.com/m1jeJ.jpg still a heavy WIP, but you can refer to my concepts I think in the semi-gallery nonsense thread to see what it should look like when finished. @silentjacket; those guns look pretty cool, but they look like they would be uncomfortable to hold in human hands. try drawing dots where fingers would go on the handle and seeing if replicating that position is ungainly for a gun. no one wants to have their hand mutilated for military purposes. Edited by master noob on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:57 AM who said they were human weapons?

YakZSmelk Joined: Apr 3, 2006 - Environment Artist - robhow.com	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 03:15 AM Msg. 11069 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: master noob lol needler http://i.imgur.com/prBYX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/M5U9R.jpg http://i.imgur.com/m7yiY.jpg for those of you who can't see a needler in this; http://i.imgur.com/m1jeJ.jpg still a heavy WIP @silentjacket; those guns look pretty cool, but they look like they would be uncomfortable to hold in human hands. try drawing dots where fingers would go on the handle and seeing if replicating that position is ungainly for a gun. no one wants to have their hand mutilated for military purposes. Edited by master noob on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:57 AM Edited by master noob on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:59 AM This looks great, I would suggest keeping the rounded top where the needle protrude though. Other than that I prefer this design the the actual needler. Looks much heavier.

Cheddars Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Rave to the Grave.	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 04:58 AM Msg. 11070 of 12975 That looks like a sweet needler. But looks sub divided? As for the shotgun, you could probably remove alot of the detail and use it in a normal map to conserve polycount.

Controversial Joined: Dec 11, 2012	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 01:19 PM Msg. 11071 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: mastur cheef Why doesn't anybody post a wireframe :( If the topology is bad, then you can't bake the model right. Well it looks like that model is composed mostly of quads so I think it would be fine. But I think that model is quite nice, really nice. I think Stryking was asking for opinions on how it looks though.

OHunterO Joined: May 24, 2012 .	Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:37 PM Msg. 11072 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: mastur cheef Why doesn't anybody post a wireframe :( If the topology is bad, then you can't bake the model right. You have no idea what your on about do you? On high poly mesh's the topology only matters if it's really retarded but you WOULD see the errors in the viewport majority of the time. So no, wire's are not really needed at all for a highpoly mesh. It will bake fine.

YakZSmelk Joined: Apr 3, 2006 - Environment Artist - robhow.com	Posted: Dec 14, 2012 02:49 AM Msg. 11073 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: mastur cheef I remember you telling me that it was all bad not having quads and that I should fix them right away. Edited by mastur cheef on Dec 13, 2012 at 01:54 AM You should fix them but that's not always the case. Tris can slide if they don't cause any issues, especially on high poly models.

OHunterO Joined: May 24, 2012 .	Posted: Dec 14, 2012 04:19 AM Msg. 11074 of 12975 They are a bad practice to have, but if they produce no visual errors which should stand out in the viewport then they can be lived with.

clonecam117 Joined: Dec 11, 2012 Now a professional VFX/particle effect artist.	Posted: Dec 14, 2012 12:51 PM Msg. 11075 of 12975 that needler looks BEAST. better than the same model over and over that bungie recycled. sure, the stock was longer in reach but they never did anything really innovative with its design. kudos!

BobtheGreatII Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Meh	Posted: Dec 15, 2012 04:49 PM Msg. 11076 of 12975 That's not a problem. That's just what it does. You don't use the flatten tool to make UV maps.

master noob Joined: Aug 10, 2012 343Industries Advocate	Posted: Dec 15, 2012 04:55 PM Msg. 11077 of 12975 well, decided to release the storm rifle as-is to work on better weapon designs. animators, have fun! http://filebeam.com/1f07bb305e9540d611349e27c2d4c1f8 also, old picture Edited by master noob on Dec 15, 2012 at 04:55 PM

Spartan314 Joined: Aug 21, 2010 Former biped rigger & FP animator	Posted: Dec 15, 2012 06:34 PM Msg. 11078 of 12975 Oh goodie! :D

clonecam117 Joined: Dec 11, 2012 Now a professional VFX/particle effect artist.	Posted: Dec 15, 2012 06:55 PM Msg. 11079 of 12975 leet!

Cheddars Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Rave to the Grave.	Posted: Dec 15, 2012 08:30 PM Msg. 11080 of 12975 Select edges around the model for seams and than either unfold or pelt map etc.

Cheddars Joined: Oct 30, 2010 Rave to the Grave.	Posted: Dec 15, 2012 09:37 PM Msg. 11081 of 12975 No it wouldn't lol. Ctrl + A. These are what we call a "seam" is: Think of seams in 3ds max like seams on your clothing. Originally they were flat pieces of cloth and than were stitched up to form a t-shirt. Select the edges you want to become a seam and click tools>break in the UVW window. This will detach it from its current faces. Read more on seams and how they are used in UVW'ing etc

bourrin33 Joined: Oct 19, 2009 HEK not installed tho	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 05:44 AM Msg. 11082 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: master noob well, decided to release the storm rifle as-is to work on better weapon designs. animators, have fun! http://filebeam.com/1f07bb305e9540d611349e27c2d4c1f8 also, old picture http://i.imgur.com/hq1lV.jpg Edited by master noob on Dec 15, 2012 at 04:55 PM OMG I need to know how you did those controllers ! please :)

Invader Veex Joined: Apr 11, 2007 i make poast	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 12:51 PM Msg. 11083 of 12975 D00D ITSPERFECT CAN WE SEE INGME SHOT?

Dumb AI Joined: Sep 18, 2011 Dead.	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 12:55 PM Msg. 11084 of 12975 Looks more like a nail gun. :P

TauSigmaNova Joined: Jan 31, 2011 If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 12:56 PM Msg. 11085 of 12975 OMG RLS PLX inb4 ngons

Invader Veex Joined: Apr 11, 2007 i make poast	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 12:57 PM Msg. 11086 of 12975 Not so much a nail gun, but one of those staple guns.

Dumb AI Joined: Sep 18, 2011 Dead.	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 01:02 PM Msg. 11087 of 12975 Eh,I saw some special staplers (used for construction) that are actually shaped kind of like a gun.

Invader Veex Joined: Apr 11, 2007 i make poast	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 01:10 PM Msg. 11088 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: Dumb AI Eh,I saw some special staplers (used for construction) that are actually shaped kind of like a gun. Yeah, theres actually a lot of different kind of staplers. Office, the one I posted, Air powered (what I think you're thinking of. I have a couple of these for floors and trim) Hammer tacker (they jam like a bitch) and a ton of other ones but those are the ones I know off. /constuctionandroofingismyjobicouldnthelpit

master noob Joined: Aug 10, 2012 343Industries Advocate	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 01:11 PM Msg. 11089 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: goldkilla88 HeY gAiz l00k at me 1337 b0ltSHot Complete W.I.P http://i.imgur.com/xVwVg.jpg Heres a wireframe: will be changed as I pull it apart. http://i.imgur.com/TBY4A.jpg with a gun like the boltshot (and many other PROMEETHEEIN weapons), it would be better to model each piece separately rather than a single mesh. especially since it comes apart :U Edited by master noob on Dec 16, 2012 at 01:12 PM

Vergil Joined: Jun 13, 2011 you're just mad cuz you're angry	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 02:19 PM Msg. 11090 of 12975 symmetry modifier?

Amazingcuziam Joined: Apr 16, 2010 Sup.	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 02:31 PM Msg. 11091 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: Vergil Modifier? Pfft? Shh! You're not supposed to tell him. Edited by Amazingcuziam on Dec 16, 2012 at 02:58 PM

Skidrow925 Joined: Mar 19, 2010 "ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 02:36 PM Msg. 11092 of 12975 Well don't quote it... Oh and y'all might wanna cut down on the n-gons. There are too many there. Really. Edited by Skidrow925 on Dec 16, 2012 at 02:37 PM

Amazingcuziam Joined: Apr 16, 2010 Sup.	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 02:59 PM Msg. 11093 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 Well don't quote it... Oh and y'all might wanna cut down on the n-gons. There are too many there. Really. Edited by Skidrow925 on Dec 16, 2012 at 02:37 PM I only see nine. Oh, that's because there are only nine faces on the side? Oh. Edited by Amazingcuziam on Dec 16, 2012 at 05:19 PM

Skidrow925 Joined: Mar 19, 2010 "ideological sense of respect and tact of a 5yo"	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 03:04 PM Msg. 11094 of 12975 And now we must ask our selves... how many tri's would be there? I actually am curious.

Amazingcuziam Joined: Apr 16, 2010 Sup.	Posted: Dec 16, 2012 03:13 PM Msg. 11095 of 12975 Quote: --- Original message by: Skidrow925 And now we must ask our selves... how many tri's would be there? I actually am curious. My guess is ~220 but it is probably something closer to like... 64 or something stupidly small.

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