Working on a combat shotgun based on the shotgun from Reach. The model is coming along decently, if lacking detail. If anybody is interest in making some bitmaps for it that would help. Texturing is one thing I just plain suck at.



Edited by rerout343 on Apr 21, 2012 at 08:49 AM

[Creeper Voice]Thatssss a very nice ssshotgun you have there... It'd be a ssssshame if sssssomething happened to it...[/Creeper Voice]

Seriously though, its nice. And are you considering making it a pump-action shotgun? Seeing as this is five hundred and forty years into the future, and that it has a drum mag, I would think it would be a semi-automatic... Or an automatic.

DUAL WIELD AA-12 THIEMED SHOTGUN! WOOOOO!

It's either going to be semi or full auto. I'm actually making it specifically for an SP level I started working on. So I'm going to wait to decide until I start working on weapon balancing.

I think considering the look of the model, you should make it automatic. That would fit in nicely. However, maybe at a rate where, if you want, it can be semi-automatic.

I would also be interested to see how you implement a fully automatic shotgun.

You're a boss.

Unless he is a Chief Executive Boss.

From the concept art, it looks like that will be the case.

Use that, as you will only need to link objects to nodes ect... so if I update it there won't be any drastic changes that effect the shape. It's also not unwrapped anyway, so you will need to swap the mesh eventually.

My only complaint is that the drum seems to be backwards, at least in comparison to the limited number of drum magazines I'm familiar with. I think the thing that lets you wind the drum should be a bit simpler-looking, too. Maybe like this:
http://centerfiresystems.com/productimages/mags-drums/DRUM-SKS-CLOSED-D.jpg
Edited by Echo77 on Apr 21, 2012 at 01:51 PM

www.mediafire.com/?zlctjozsbpqu49x 3ds format

im making a futuristic SMG, resembles a mix of MP5K and ACR. do you think for the sight:
•Digital or just basic optical?
•Thick (as in ACOG) or thin (as in red dot)?

I was thinking to do a digital thin one but what do you all think?
Edited by abkarch on Apr 21, 2012 at 08:11 PM

If it's a submachine gun, it's performance at long range would be questionable at best. I would go with a basic red dot.

k. I mean it was gonna be kinda an AR replacement, a starting weapon. Maybe ill give 1.5x zoom.

I appreciate you doing that but I actually *kinda* figured out why Max was being weird, but now it comes out not smoothed at all.

...Oh, and where's the mag? I just see a hole at the bottom-ish, and even when I tore apart the model there was no real magazine.

Oh crap yeah, the magazine! *facepalm*

Ignore that release! lol, I forgot to add that.

Cortana is the least of the problems. It's not the hair color, it's the face. Maybe it's just two unfortunate pictures but that really doesn't look much like the same cortana from Halo 1, 2, or even 3. The grunt armor is completely different. The methane tank is a cylinder now for no apparent reason, and looks about 3 times as awkward as the original design from halo 1. And there don't appear to be any eye slits for the helmet either. The elite hand isn't a question of art style, I was referencing the picture where he holds the carbine looking weapon. The hand looks really off.

The grunts posted just below me looks pretty bad too tbh. Their facial anatomy is pretty different from the original concept. It's one thing to change armor styles and technology, but I'd love to see how they are going to explain the Covenant's sudden aquisition of fish scales on their fore arms, and grunt's apparent lack of a need for methane to breath (which is why they have the tanks in the first place). At least their tanks aren't as bad but I still don't like them.

It's not about the fact that it's new, it's about the fact that Halo can't seem to keep it's art style consistent for more than one game, as well as the fact that they seem to be using all these extra polygons afforded by new tech to slap on a bunch of extra stuff just to clutter up their character design.

Trying to add detail to a weapon.

Im using a boolean modifier. Apon selecting subtraction A-B, the whole model disappears. Both models are editable poly. Anyone know why this would happen?

This isn't a question of consistency! 343 has the ability to change anything they want, and to be honest, I would rather have them change the art style a fair amount, rather than trying to emulate Bungie's style. They have their own ideas, and their own vision for the game. Would you really rather have them to continue to copy Bungie? Or would you rather give them the benefit of the doubt and allow them to change the style to something unique for their company. I personally would rather have the latter.

Edit: After checking the one image of the elite holding the carbine, I have to ask what you are talking about, it looks like elite hands to me, the anatomy of the hands hasn't changed.
Edited by Bobblehob on Apr 22, 2012 at 08:54 PM

Halo 4 is a new game, it still looks like Halo, but it also looks like a next-gen game. Damn, i wish I didn't read these forums at times...

If you don't like it then don't play it, but a new game studio, or even Bungie can't just stick with the same old crap for every game... the reason they change in each game is so that it isn't just a new campaign... people say Halo is turning into CoD but it isn't... CoD keeps EXACTLY the same old crap, Halo changes and advances.

its pretty usual to keep the style the same throughout a series, regardless of which company is making it. if they wanted to make their own style, they could have made their own new game.

Show me a series of games that has been produced by two different companies at different times, and then show me all the consistencies. Even COD has a very different feel between two different developers, Treyarch and Activision. And they are supposed to be the same.

that different feel in COD is a result of games taking place in completely different times.

The point i was trying to make was that sequels to games are suppose to feel like the original game.

Black Ops still felt way too much like MW2 to me.

Not necessarily, it depends on the story, and the reaction of the fans to the gameplay of the original. The developers are trying to make the game play very similarly, but they also innovate between sequels. In this case 343 is trying to make their version of Halo, as opposed to Bungie's version.

There aren't supposed to be different versions of a game throughout a series, though. The fans LOVED original halo gameplay, and the reaction to reach was not as great as to previous games, and 343 should have realized that. Innovating is fine, its just core gameplay needs to be there.

Core gameplay is there. Also, the reaction to Reach wasn't entirely as negative as you think. The people who were up in arms over it were a vocal minority. The game is still enjoying a larger player base this far in than Halo 3 did, meaning that this far after its release, there are more people playing Reach than there were playing Halo 3.

Back on topic, the core gameplay is still there, the changes add different layers to it, but the same core gameplay still exists. Granted these changes are more radical than in the past.

To me it is a question of consistency. Well I would have rather them left the Halo series alone and finish with Halo 3, but since that's not happening, I would like it if they at least tried to maintain a passing resemblance to the original halo games (which they have so far). I have no problem if they introduce new things and put their own spin on it, otherwise it's going to end up like another well known series of games that is often criticized for it's derivative and unoriginal nature, but I'm just not happy that they're tampering with what I guess I perceive as "Bungie's" designs.

Just forget I mentioned the hand thing, it was a trick of the perspectives that made it look like the elite was missing some finger digits.

Am i the only one that sees in this picture that you have the Halo: 4 hud before the game has even been released?

That isn't the H4 hud... that is some strange combination of Halo 3, Halo 4, Reach, and Crysis 2.

Just a quick test bake, automatic unwrap just to quickly test, so ignore the pure crapness of most of the models normals.


Afew changes need to be made to the model.

But you forgot the most important part...

It looks cool.

No doubt man

Not really, its inconsistent, with all those different game influences, and those damn hexagons are ugly as hell.