I just want to once again make something very clear about the Halo-online game as pertains to this forum and associated websites.


Halo online is not a game that is currently available in the US and does not support company sanctioned user created content. As such the distribution of (links to) mods or hacks is a direct violation of the copyright and hosting a site that supports that activity would put me personally and my company at legal and financial risk of liability.

I have already received a cease and desist order against a previous thread on this forum that linked to hacked content. Besides that fact that I will not condone or support illegal activity I will not jeopardize my company for a costly and losing legal challenge.

What that means is there will not now nor in the future be a Halo On-line section to the Halomaps.org forum just like there has never been a Halo PC section a Halo 3, 4 or 5 section.

Because it is a Halo game discussion of Halo-Online is allowed but limited to a single thread. Links to modified or hacked game content is prohibited as it it a violation of copyright laws and the forum's number one cardinal rule.

I hope this will finally make it clear about the prospect of adding a Halo-Online section to this forum. Thank you.

Dennis
Owner/Moderator

Indeed
Edited by Jesse on Oct 23, 2015 at 12:27 AM

"But Dennis, it's free! IT's not a violation of copyright if it's free!"

-Everyone actively associated with Halo Online, ever.

I completely disagree with you, sorry but it's true. Because the fact is everyone is fading away from Halo Custom Edition to Halo 5 or Halo Online because the game has reached up to limitation when it comes to modding. Don't let Microsoft fool you or your website this is your site Dennis you can put Halo Online section board, don't be too naive. Your the one paid this site, your the one always looking secure this site so don't let anyone take control of you because this is wrong you have the rights to do anything with this website.



What is violation? what modding? are you that serious Dennis? because I know many games company never made content creator before.... look at! RockstarGames! who made gta v and gta 4 when those games got released RockstarGames never supported or released a single content creator to their community! but look everyone is modding those games and now look rockstargames are completely find with it.


You gotta take our advice next time because this is silly you can't let these idiots control you, like that's really bad. This is your website Dennis not there's.

They won't do anything to your website. Don't be too nervous about this man.

Your opinion on this matter, does not matter.
I suggest you take refuge in forums that are dedicated to El Dewrito: Halo Online Hacked and illegally Modified Evolved

Not to mention that your reasoning on this matter is really really dumb.
Edited by DaLode on Oct 23, 2015 at 10:33 AM

Wow Dennis, that was a very well-written post. I'm sad to see people insulting you and reporting your post, because I have a lot of respect for you as a modder and it's awesome to be able to hear your opinion.

First of all though, I should clearly state what the goals of this project are. The goal of the ElDewrito project is to allow players to play Halo Online outside of Russia. Primarily, this means giving players the ability to host their own servers which others can connect to and play on. However, in order to achieve this, we have had to spend a lot of time learning how the game works, and we have created some rudimentary tools to assist with editing the game's tag files.

Apparently this caused a few members of this community to spawn the idea of this project being something of a "Halo 3: Custom Edition" which is going to "overtake" HCE. I apologize if people have gone onto HCE forums and tried to misrepresent this mod as being such a thing or started flame wars. We have never officially agreed with the idea of there being any sort of "WAR." Rather, we would like to work with HCE modders to help make ElDewrito more customizable. This post you made is exactly what we've been looking for. Well I can't say anything to you but if you really don't know what to do I would say make a sticky thread and make a petition for having Halo Online Board section for it.


Everyone we need to stay as a community I don't want to see Halo Custom Edition and Halo Online starting flame war.

These engines are made by bungie don't forget that. Not saber interactive because they just modified the engine.

Apart from Lodex, the other posts in this thread come from absolute idiots. Reachfan is a 'tard, as we all knew (and this current post shows it) Caesar and monkeyking? Please, you don't own the site, your opinion (as stated) does not matter because it is Dennis' website, not yours. He doesn't want the risk of any kind of legal action and we should understand that.


Also, where is your proof that everyone has moved to Halo 5 and Online? Pulling stats out of your ass is not proof, you just want to make the argument for adding a Halo Online section. We should accept Halo Online for what it is right now, not for what you so desperately want it to be. The developers have mentioned that it was not their intent to replace HCE, and the amount of work required to create any kind of tools to make that a possibility are still far off. I would hope to the Halo gods that it happens, but for now we just have to wait.

Caesar, you say we have reached the limits of what modding can do in CE? What can YOU do? You certainly haven't even come close to scratching any kind of limit. I suggest you think before you speak.


Edited to add that the previous post was added while I was typing this one, so the stupid posts comment of mine may not apply :P
Edited by Jesse on Oct 23, 2015 at 11:00 AM
Edited by Jesse on Oct 23, 2015 at 11:02 AM

Not to mention Dewrito is illegal to use.

I just wanna warn you that those accounts are controlled by the same person (Dennis proved it looking at their IPs), so taking them seriously and respond to them is just a loss of brain cells

This statement here makes you wrong and kills any argument that you may have made for three reasons:

1) Dennis's reasons for shutting down Halo Online discussions are legitimate.

2) Dennis's reasons for shutting down Halo Online discussions is not a matter of opinion, but very simply a matter of putting his business at risk (if you took the time to read about your moderator, I would hope you'd feel a sense or compassion (like I do) and sympathy (certain degrees of empathy in my case))

3) Your opinion is extremely selfish considering how selfless of a man Dennis is for our community (The Halo CUSTOM EDITION community, NOT the Halo Online Community. it is up to you to take part in the Halo Custom Edition community).

Oh, and don't even get me started on those logical fallacies.
Edited by Nickster5000 on Oct 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM
Edited by Nickster5000 on Oct 23, 2015 at 01:02 PM

Everyone, huh?

I don't own or plan to own an Xbox One. MCC is unappealing to me in its current state (I expect it'll get the H2V treatment), and I don't care for Halo 5.

Good joke. I play the El Dewrito version on occasion, but there's nothing really for me there. I expect there will be even less for me in the final, official version.

I bet you actually believe that.

Dennis, don't let Caesar fool you into putting up a Halo Online section board, don't be too naive.

You're suggesting that Dennis shouldn't let anyone tell him what to do and then you go ahead and tell him exactly what he should do.
I don't think you even realized what you were saying when you typed this.

Which means he can do as he pleases, including choosing not to add a Halo Online board.

Bad example. I bet Microsoft would liken El Dewrito to the GTA V FiveM mod. Rockstar banned the mod creators' and subreddit creator's Rockstar accounts (iirc) and deemed FiveM a piracy enabling mod.


Take his advice, Dennis. Don't let him control you. This is your website, not his.

Why risk the entire website, his career, and UXB Internet over one game? Why risk it?

Warning received, but the replies aren't for just the one multi-account guy. It's for anyone legitimately thinking he's right.

Sorry but even if you have "good" intentions with this "mod" doesnt change the fact that its still illegal.
Also keep the thread like this, is very fun to read.
Edited by Kinnet on Oct 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM

I'm glad for this decision. Halo Online does not belong here due to the fact the game is not even officially released yet and nor does it have a editing kit released for it. I'd see a fallout 4 forum section being placed on here more than a Halo Online forum any day.

Why aren't we all raging to replace halomaps, with marioMarkerMaps? It has a legal, official editing kit. We need our Mario Maker section!!11!one [/troll]

But really, it would make more sense to add a Mario Maker than Halo Online, which I assume at best, we probably only have 2 users on this forum who even fit the requirements to legally have H:O, and even then, they cannot legally modify it, making the whole point moot. I guess the Halo Online guys can go take over the Machinima section, since those whole 2 users who can legally own it can make videos... although wasn't Microsoft taking down any youtube videos of H:O?... If it was just videos they knew used doritos, they can at least legitimately do that, but otherwise, the can't even post them goofing around in movies...

Microsoft did removed videos but not anymore. What about portal 2 section?

Your disagreement is irrelevant.


That is correct why haven't you recognized that yet?

This is Deniss web site if you don't like it go and make your own halo online forum and put your F** kin links there because we don't want to steal the job of others.

Indeed.
This is a forum about Halo Custom Edition and Halo 2 Vista custom things.
Dennis can't take over Halo Online modding because he's not allowed by law and Microsoft.
Edited by cippozzo on Oct 23, 2015 at 02:00 PM

"You can't let people tell you what to do, because the decision is ultimately up to you. Now please do the thing I want you to do."

I've known that they are the same user, but who are they again? They always seemed to be the same person to me anyway, I always placed them under the same umbrella of stupidity.

As in, which users have the same IP?

I totally called it...

You guys seem to be forgetting that even though H2V has "map" (it was never advertised as modding afaik) tools, he still took down content that reverse engineered halo 2. Because of laws and stuff like that. Dennis takes this stuff seriously even though some of us probably don't care. Also he's been told numerous times before to take down halo online content in this forum. So there you go.

The rights to the Halo Online game is owned by Microsoft/343 and Saber Interactive. They and only they have rights to control distribution or modify the game. No one else has rights to it. Any unsanctioned modification/hack is a direct violation of the copyright and terms of use.

MS has been aggressive in issuing cease and desist orders and I have already received one for a previous thread that has since been removed. Unlike you I operate in the real world with real consequences. Not only do I agree with MS's decision and their rights I also have no childish illusions about "taking on the man".

As previously stated: Because it is a Halo game, discussion of Halo-Online is allowed but limited to a single thread. Links to modified or hacked game content is prohibited as it it a violation of copyright laws and the forum's number one cardinal rule. If you do not comply with this rule your account will be removed.

Then what does that make of ripping tools?

The Halo 2 Vista game has an official and sanctioned modding tool kit supplied by Microsoft.


They fall into one of the grey areas within the copyright laws and terms of use. The programs themselves are the rights of their creator's but what they do can infringe on the rights of the game's copyright owner. To be safe I only host third party tools for the Halo games that have official modding tools.
Edited by Dennis on Oct 23, 2015 at 06:33 PM

Hey, at least it's good that we know somebody gives enough of a damn about Halomaps to tell Dennis to remove certain things. So we're not completely irrelevant yet.




yet

Why not do this. Just make a section board and name it "Halo Online Russian Discussion" and put down description about saber interactive so that Microsoft see this as legal. I don't know if that's going to work but hey you can try.

Because I have already done this:


Stop whining and live with it.

No you haven't already done it.
Edited by emoose on Oct 23, 2015 at 06:41 PM

Posting in an epic thread.

I'd say sticky this thread, because unfortunately this will go on for a long time.

This is actually hilarious haha

If your not going to put a board up just make this thread sticky.

You need to use a hacked version of a leaked build to play Eldewrito thus Dennis will not have it here, simples.
The official halo online is not for western consumption, thus Dennis will not have it here, simples.
It's not hard to comprehend.
Edited by Maniac1000 on Oct 23, 2015 at 09:53 PM
Edited by Maniac1000 on Oct 23, 2015 at 09:54 PM